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<title>Parents being super raging sensitive (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452131,452131#msg-452131</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/1sbzl6s/my_friend_is_mad_at_me_because_of_a_comment_i/<br /><br />A "cf" autistic woman is friends with a guy who had an accidentally kid, just accidentally offended him. The brat was an accident and he took it to a b-day party for it's first b-day. The op said that the kid doesn't know if it is happy or not due to it's age and the guy acted like she said the kid would grew up to be a future tard.<br /><br />She had to apolgize and wondered if she went to far. A lot of the commenters on r/cf took his side and told her to stick with "classic comments" that will steer the topic away from kids.<br /><br />I had a feeling he really regrets the brat and is going overboard with love for it to force himself to love it as he does not, but knows he can't undo it all.<br />The op said she is "cf" as she does not want to pass down autism, maybe more like cl as in she would have kids if only autism was not an issue.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 03:10:31 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Well, I guess this moo will never know (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452129,452129#msg-452129</link><description><![CDATA[https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/woman-became-pregnant-having-sex-172718646.html<br /><br />Moo bangs twin guys, gets knocked up and I guess DNA can never prove which one it is]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfdavep</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 03:49:32 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>I just love reading the Stepparent subreddit every day (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452127,452127#msg-452127</link><description><![CDATA[Ive said it before on another thread, but I luv luv luv it.<br /><br />They all tell all the taboo truths about parunthood, and it doesnt matter if they have their own kids too,or have a new biological child w/ their spouse.<br /><br />All the guilty divorced parunts letting their kids run the house w/ no rules or consequences, no chores for any child of any age. All the carting around to events and appointments. Them too all admitting that they cant wait for the kids to grow up, and that includes the bio parents saying the same thing. The 'theyre only young once, so enjoy it' is a fallacy they say becz they too all admit that they can do w/o the "little kid years" of 5-8 or so. Cant wait for the teens to get the hell out either. Some of the stepparents have known the kids from toddlerhood, so this is watching them grow up into shitty snotty kids and hating them as they grow. They all chime in and calculate how many years they have left till the kid just gets out of the house and console each other with that. (good luck w/ the failure to launch crowd)<br /><br />I wonder if I could love anyone so much to become a stepparent. It's awful. But much is this is brought on by modern parenting...the cosleeping, that goes on and on into grade school years, the delay in potty training, the delay in teaching kids how to wipe their butts, the delay of giving ANY age appropriate chores, the making of another meal if the different kids wont eat it, the constant asking for snacks(this seems to be a regular thing), the putting up w/ sassy mouths, disrespect, bad behavior, bad grades, failure to launch, constant all day scrolling and loud video games that disturb the whole house, they wedge themselves between the couple when the couple shows any affection...which is bizarre to me bcz this seems to go on w/ the kids at all ages. IDK about you guys, I wasnt 'hugging' 'cuddling' w/ my parents all the time like a lover thru out the day or on the couch. Maybe before I was 5 but I would hug kiss them goodbye and good nite, stuff like that, and I certainly didnt see it in other fams I visited, the little siblings didnt do it in front of me while I was visiting my pals. All the things these stepparents complain about are totally foreign to me. This stuff just didnt go on when I was a child in the olden days lol My mom had it ez in comparison,and had virtually none of these probs becz the adults just didnt put up w/ it. But todays kids use their parents as their main entertainment and slavery it seems.<br /><br />Once my MIL got mad at me for speaking frankly about women and the misery drudgery of raising kids, I wish I could recall my exact words, and she immediately said "Its not drudgery!!!" and was miffed the rest of the night. But she's the breeder who always says shes happy when the grandkids go home. But I wish I could pull up this subreddit and read it out loud together with her. I think she'd be cool if I was a moo, and complained, but I'm not allowed to comment bcz Im CF.<br /><br />So the babies are too dependent and overwhelming on parents, The toddlers get into things and also dependent w/ butt wiping etc., the little kid years are miserable, Ive heard 10-12 is a sweet spot for raising kids but I've also heard the exact opposite, then everyone braces for the teen years and they are hateful and miserable, then they go to college and come back and still walk all over you and have resentful personalities. Sooo, exactly WHEN is parenthood a fucking joy and so worth it??? The subreddit posters say all this terrible stuff even when they DO like the kids and have a supportive spouse!<br /><br />And, with knowing all this, people get remarried and have second families? How can this be? One poster even said to the OP of a thread, youre almost out of the woods w/ the stepkid, why are you adding to your family now? (I mean if I was doing something that caused so much misery after I thought I wanted it so bad, I wouldnt go out and buy/get another of the same thing to deal w/ for 20 odd years, would you?)<br /><br />And, honestly, depending what is going on in the marriage, I'm not sure I would ever get divorced after reading this subreddit either, Your life is so not your own w/ the scheduling and emergencies and changes and carting kids around. Might as well sleep at work and just not have a personal life bcz you dont have one anyway.<br /><br /><br />But my fave pastime is reading this site every day, I find much satisfaction and joy in it. I find it just so truthful and refreshing. Sucks to be Moo as we say. hahaha]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2026 21:12:58 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>cue the bitching (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452124,452124#msg-452124</link><description><![CDATA[Pub owner bans kids because of the parents<br /><br /><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pub-landlord-bans-children-and-says-it-is-entitled-parents-not-the-children-who-are-to-blame/ar-AA1Z8g7C?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=69c0dd7d8705405bb1eba1698f41cdd5&ei=34" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pub landlord bans children - and says it is 'entitled' parents not the children who are to blame</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>thom_c</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 19:47:27 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Moo needed to download app to boobfeed (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452121,452121#msg-452121</link><description><![CDATA[http://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1rvbw6a/i_had_to_download_a_stupid_app_and_create_an/<br /><br />She was at an airport and had to download a free app to open the "boobfeeding pod"]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 00:26:35 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Daily dose of outrage from reddit and it's only 9 in the morning (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452106,452106#msg-452106</link><description><![CDATA[Did any of you see this? I saw it, and hoo boy, I have OPINIONS:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/childfreewomen/comments/1rmq7fw/i_am_with_this_kid_and_im_sorry_that_his_parents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Surprise, kid #5</a><br /><br />It's a video of parents "surprising" their children at Christmas with the announcement that mommy and daddy have been rawdogging and she's knocked up with kid #5. I have so many problems with everything that comes next, lol.<br /><br />One of the older boys bursts into tears in response and says he has to text his dad. Moo asks him why he's crying (I don't know this kid and *I* can tell he's upset, but apparently she thought it might be happy tears?) and he says, "You're already pregnant?" He gestures at the youngest and says, "She's only 10 months old!" The self-awareness with which he says it is infuriating. When you see a kid who talks like an adult, 99% of the time it's because of something awful. I would bet cash that he's already helping raise the two younger kids. I would further bet that he's completely aware of the dynamic change where some of the kids belong to the current BF/husband, and some don't. Stuff like that doesn't fly over kids' heads. If the new guy makes any difference between moo's older kids and his own, all of the children will know it. Whatever the reasons, I have no doubt the kid's tears are valid.<br /><br />Then the bitch tries to argue him down, telling him she "thought he'd be happy." You know how you find out if kids would be happy with a sibling? <i>You fucking talk to them.</i> But if she really cared about his opinion, she'd have told BF/new hubby to put down the phone and she'd be talking to her child, rather than laughing at the funny "I'm having a real crisis and no one else cares" response.<br /><br />Then when he asks her why they're having another kid, she says she guesses god decided they needed another baby.<br /><br />What. A. Fucking. Cunt.<br /><br />Be honest with your kid. Tell him that what you want matters more than what he wants, that he wasn't important enough in the decision making to even warrant a conversation, and acknowledge that it was your choice, not some imaginary sky daddy. And if you live somewhere that abortion is illegal, well...you can afford to feed five kids, you can afford a trip out of state.<br /><br />I wish we could follow up on stuff like this later. I'd love to find out that the poor kid grew up, got therapy, and moo/stepidiot complain that he never visits....]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Another parent of a school shooter charged for their brat's crimes (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452103,452103#msg-452103</link><description><![CDATA[I'm glad to see this seems to be becoming the norm. Colt Gray was responsible for the 2024 shooting in a Georgia school that killed two teachers and two students. According to other news coverage, the kid's Duh knew he was mentally disturbed and just didn't want to deal with it (his ex-wife said as much), but Duh claimed he had the kid seeing a school therapist. And he proceeded to buy the kid an AR-15 for Christmas knowing full well he was sick because he thought they could bond over hunting together and never thought the kid would use the gun to kill a person. Even though the kid would fucking sleep with the gun.<br /><br />So because Duh decided his fucked-up mistake needed a firearm, he was found guilty of murder, manslaughter, cruelty and reckless behavior. Brat boy was charged with 55 felony counts, including four counts of felony murder and 25 counts of aggravated assault, second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, and cruelty to children and pled not guilty to all of them. I hope he doesn't think his age will do him any favors because he's being tried as an adult.<br /><br />It's one thing if you know your kid is messed up and you just don't do anything about it - that's just neglect. But when the kid has a FUCKING SHRINE dedicated to school shooters in his room and you give him a gun, you are an accessory to murder. Of course Duh is going to try to save his own ass by going, "Hurr durr I didn't think he was a threat!" You gave the kid the ingredients he needed to be a threat. It's like pouring gas on the floor and lighting a candle near it and complaining when a fire starts.<br /><br /><u>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-father-colin-gray-found-guilty-sons-alleged-deadly-school-shoo-rcna261318</u><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>A Georgia jury Tuesday took the rare action of holding a father criminally responsible for actions blamed on his son, who is alleged to have gunned down two schoolmates and two teachers while he was armed with an AR-15-style rifle kept in their home.<br /><br />The panel in Barrow County found Colin Gray, 55, guilty of all charges, which included second-degree murder and cruelty to children, in connection with the Sept. 4, 2024, mass shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder. His son, Colt Gray, is charged with the shooting itself.<br /><br />Prosecuting parents for their children’s committing school shootings does have at least one precedent.<br /><br />James Crumbley and his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the 2021 deadly shooting at Oxford High School in suburban Detroit by their son Ethan Crumbley.<br /><br />Colt Gray's mother cited the Crumbley case when she urged that her son's access to guns should be cut off before the 2024 mass shooting, Barrow County District Attorney Brad Smith said.<br /><br />"We hope that [this conviction] moves the needle a little further," Smith told reporters.<br /><br />"I think you saw in this case that the mother actually reviewed what happened in Michigan ... and she then, as a result of that, asked her husband to remove the weapons," Smith said.<br /><br />"It could have ended this tragedy. So Michigan was able to move the needle to the point that almost stopped this tragedy," he said. "How many tragedies it did stop? We hope we move the needle a little further."<br /><br />The jury deliberated for less than two hours before it found Gray guilty on all 27 charges. He didn't appear to show outward emotions as the jury delivered its verdicts.<br /><br />After the jury was polled to confirm all of the guilty verdicts, Gray, wearing a blue sport coat and khaki pants, was handcuffed and taken away by court security.<br /><br />Superior Court Judge Nicholas Primm didn't immediately set a date for sentencing, saying, "There are a lot of people that need to be notified and have a right to appear." Gray faces up to 243 years behind bars.<br /><br />Defense attorneys declined to answer reporters’ questions as they left the courthouse.<br /><br />Colt Gray is accused of using the firearm his father should have secured to carry out the slaughter about 45 miles northeast of downtown Atlanta.<br /><br />The younger Gray, who was 14 at the time of the shooting, remains in custody, and a trial date has not yet been set.<br /><br />Prosecutors accused Colin Gray of ignoring warning signs of his son's potential violence and allowing him access to the high-capacity weapon used at Apalachee High School.<br /><br />Jurors were shown pictures of Colt's bedroom, which included pictures of school shooter Nikolas Cruz on the wall. Cruz killed 14 students and three staff members at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on Feb. 14, 2018.<br /><br />The four slain in Georgia were Mason Schermerhorn, 14; Christian Angulo, 14; Richard Aspinwall, 39; and Cristina Irimie, 53.<br /><br />Colin Gray, testifying on his own behalf, recounted incidents of his son’s feeling bullied at school and occasionally showing signs of rage.<br /><br />Still, he told jurors he never considered his son to be a violent threat.<br /><br />“I never thought that he would even have a thought process of bringing a gun to school or doing any kind of harm to anybody else. Well, on anybody at school,” the older Gray told jurors.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
<dc:creator>Cambion</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 08:06:52 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Sports industry - grift on famlees (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452101,452101#msg-452101</link><description><![CDATA[It has become a trend for sports activities for brats to include traveling and additional grifts where the high charging coaches tend to be washed up players who never achieved success. From what I understand about from whiny parunts their brats can't even play some sports if they don't jump through all these hoops. These activities cost thousands of dollars annually just for entry.<br /><br />Brats that are average at sports (over 95% of them) either travel or they get left behind and lose friends. Even if parunts see the grift they really can't win because if they say no to the traveling sports industry then they'll risk forever being the one who denied their kids their professional sports contracts. Even if the odds are around one a million that their brat would ever sign a sports contract. And even the pros typically have a pro career of five years or less and a decent amount warm the bench. And sports injuries haven't even been discussed, which sideline even the most promising athletes.<br /><br />I've heard countless adults talk about how they missed out on being a pro in this sport or that. No, Karen...for starters you weren't scouted in high school. So, even grown adults think they were denied their golden opportunity.<br /><br />But this is not the kind of thing a parunt can explain to a brat because even some adults have difficulty accepting that they had no chance of ever becoming a professional athlete under any circumstances. It is a very rare parent that raises their kids with humility and self-awareness and is honest enough to inform their kid they don't have the potential to play whatever sport beyond high school, if that.<br /><br />I'm very happy to be childfree and not having to deal with this grift: expenses in the four digits plus shuttling to and from practice and traveling on the weekends.]]></description>
<dc:creator>freya</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 02:40:20 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Even feminists see women as mothers (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452083,452083#msg-452083</link><description><![CDATA["I just can’t see a woman doing this. If her child died or something, yes. Over a man? Hell no. Especially a young woman."<br /><br />Found that quote on reddit/2X<br /><br />from https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1rdffy5/married_gop_congressman_tony_gonzales_sent/<br />It comcerns a young woman who literally set herself on fire over the end of a relationship/marriage.<br /><br />My first thought is why would anyone do that over the loss of ANYONE, child inculded]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfdavep</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:27:07 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Mom of 7-year-old hospitalized with brain swelling from measles: ‘I still wouldn’t have given my son the vaccine’ (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452079,452079#msg-452079</link><description><![CDATA[Parents of four decide not to vaccinate the last child, resulting in the youngest and two of his siblings contracting measles. The youngest is now bedridden with measles encephalitis, with the "mother" insisting she doesn't regret their decision not to vaccinate. "God has chosen" her child for "something," she says.<br /><br />Moo said they didn't vaccinate because “With my own eyes, I have seen the damage it does to kids who are perfectly normal, and then once they get it, they're not the same anymore.” Does she think her kid is going to be the same after this? He's seven and likely to spend the rest of his life dealing with some kind of fallout from this. I'd love for somebody to ask him if he regrets leaving it all in god's hands to avoid "not being the same anymore," but he'll have to survive his parents' stupidity first.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/measles-encephalitis-south-carolina-anti-vaccine-b2918500.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>kittehpeoples</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:28:41 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Why parunt when AI can.... (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452074,452074#msg-452074</link><description><![CDATA[There are lots of off-topic posts on LinkedIn, many are about parunting.<br /><br />Here's one where a career-minded moo wants to use AI to remove the repetitive aspects of mooing.<br /><br />How many CF peeps consciously avoid parunting because they don't want to spend 98% of their time repeating themselves or playing the good behavior reinforcement game? How many of us have witnessed that a parunt can't spend even five minutes of their time around their brat without having to correct, intervene, hear "mommy! mommy!", set boundaries or say "no".<br /><br />And if all the repetitive aspects are removed, doesn't that essentially make AI the parunt to the brat?<br /><br />I guess a moo who still feels the need to remind the entirety of LinkedIn that parunting is 24x7 might be considered a bit on the slow side.<br /><br />source: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinkedInLunatics/comments/1r8b7zi/why_parent_when_ai_can/]]></description>
<dc:creator>freya</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2026 17:33:55 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>That Dawson's Creek actor (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452062,452062#msg-452062</link><description><![CDATA["We throw out immigrants because theyre taking all the jobs or whatever while throwing money at celebrities with six kids and multi million dollar houses.....wtf. People are idiots. His family can sell their home and downgrade their lifestyle some"<br /><br />Found this on reddit. A lot of people are disgusted that this guy had six brats, is married to an anti-vaxxer apparently went into HUGE debt with cancer treatments that are not covered by insurance, ignored symtoms until it was too late and now they get $2M in donations when they apparently have a couple of million dollar homes.<br /><br />If he was not famous no one would care and everyone would be shining a light on the fact that he ignored symtoms and he would generally be seen as an idiot.<br />I think it maybe the brat angle that helped get the donations rolling in]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfdavep</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 08:01:05 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Brat causes six vehicle accident (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452050,452050#msg-452050</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/dashcams/comments/1qzaom3/twoyearold_opens_car_door_causes_sixvehicle_crash/<br /><br />I suppose at the kid's age the kid cannot be blamed, but geez]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfdavep</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2026 21:40:23 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>CP producer targeted nonverbal awtards (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452049,452049#msg-452049</link><description><![CDATA[Guy presented himself as a babysitter in order to get access to kids, and I assume he went after nonverbal kids specifically because they wouldn't able to tell anyone what he was doing. While disturbing, I'm honestly surprised more kiddy porn peddlers don't do this. The best victim is one who can't tell anyone they're a victim.<br /><br />Had he not mentioned something to his friend about his "collection," who knows how long the abuse would have gone on for.<br /><br /><u>https://www.northcentralpa.com/news/state-college-child-porn-producer-sentenced/article_50728bf0-8d41-4ae8-bca4-57cac9c73ef5.html</u><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>A man who targeted nonverbal autistic children to produce child porn has been sentenced in federal court.<br /><br />Federal officials announced that William S. Welsh, 30, of State College was sentenced last week to 30 years in prison by Chief U.S. District Judge Matthew W. Brann for production of child pornography.<br /><br />Throughout 2023, Welsh held himself out as a “babysitter” in order to gain access to several nonverbal and/or autistic toddlers, according to U.S. Attorney Brian D. Miller. He later admitted to a friend that he possessed child pornography and that he had sexually exploited at least one of the toddlers he babysat.<br /><br />Following an investigation by law enforcement, a series of search warrants executed on Welsh’s cell phones and computer revealed at least 40 videos of child pornography, including violent rape videos of children under the age of five. The search further revealed 11 sexually explicit photographs of a toddler, taken by Welsh when he was babysitting the toddler in January 2023.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
<dc:creator>Cambion</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2026 21:18:55 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>CYS Grandmoo falsifies report to prevent her grandchild from being taken away (4 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452046,452046#msg-452046</link><description><![CDATA[Seems a report came in to Children and Youth Services about an infant being abused, and Grandmoo - an employee of CYS - used her position to fudge the report.<br /><br />Apparently, on more than one occasion, the loaf was screaming while Duh played video games and Duh didn't like it. But instead of turning to shaking the loaf - the timeless classic - he chose to squeeze the loaf until its ribs "popped." Because, as we all know, the best way to make a baby quit crying is to injure it. He squeezed the loaf on three occasions because it was making noise, resulting in several broken ribs.<br /><br />Granny probably didn't want her grandbrat to get taken away, so despite knowing full well her adult asshole son was abusive and had anger issues, she lied to the pediatrician involved in the case and said the injuries were caused by the dogs living in the child's home. Because I'm SURE a pediatrician who specializes in child abuse cases can't tell the difference between a human injury and a dog injury. And even if the dogs in the house were responsible, the parents could still be charged with neglect for letting the dogs hurt the loaf so much in the first place.<br /><br />She also conveniently left out the fact that she is a blood relative of the abuser.<br /><br /><u>https://www.northcentralpa.com/news/crime/former-cys-workers-case-for-hindering-child-abuse-transferred/article_87ad48de-8198-4482-b808-1cd73d3cb233.html</u><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>A case was transferred from Snyder to Northumberland County for a former Northumberland County Children and Youth Services employee accused of trying to throw off a child abuse investigation involving her son and infant grandson.<br /><br />Judge Lori Hackenberg ruled last week that Snyder County was not the proper venue for the case for Keira Marie Ruiz Ruiz, 43, of Sunbury, Snyder County District Attorney Heath W. Brosius confirmed.<br /><br />Charges for Ruiz originally were filed in August in Snyder County shortly after her son, 24-year-old Jeremy Erb of Sunbury, was charged for abusing his 5-month-old infant at a home in Center Township, Snyder County.<br /><br />Erb pleaded guilty in January in Snyder County Court to felony aggravated assault and endangering the welfare of children charges.<br /><br />Police say while they were investigating Erb's case, Ruiz used her position as a CYS worker to try to influence the outcome. A child abuse investigation started on April 28 when Ruiz's infant grandson was taken to Geisinger Medical Center's emergency department for treatment of injuries caused by Erb.<br /><br /><b>Erb told police he had been playing video games for 15 minutes when the infant began crying. Erb picked the infant up and squeezed him until he heard a popping sound in his chest cavity.</b><br /><br /><b>Staff at Geisinger found that the infant had several broken ribs on each side of his body that were in various stages of healing.</b> Trooper William Shreve of PSP Selinsgrove said staff determined the fractures occurred at different times.<br /><br />Erb allegedly admitted to police he had squeezed the victim until he heard popping sounds on two other occasions, once while the victim fussed during a feeding and another time when he was interrupted playing video games.<br /><br />The day after the victim was treated at the hospital, at 2:27 a.m. on April 29, Ruiz allegedly used her Northumberland County CYS email account to contact Dr. Pat J. Bruno, a pediatrician at Geisinger who specializes in child abuse.<br /><br /><b>Ruiz allegedly did not identify herself as the victim's grandmother when emailing Bruno.<br /><br />Ruiz tried to blame the infant's injuries on the dogs living in the home and claimed she had personally interacted with the child on multiple occasions and had not noticed anything out of the ordinary, according to court documents.</b><br /><br />Ruiz went on to claim the victim had a vitamin D deficiency. However, police did not find any medical record of this during their investigation.<br /><br />Police found during their investigation that the victim had been subjected to ongoing abuse at the hands of Erb. Ruiz allegedly was aware of the domestic violence and disturbances occurring in the Snyder County home, Shreve wrote in the affidavit. Ruiz also allegedly was aware that Erb had issues controlling his anger.<br /><br />Police ruled that Ruiz emailed Dr. Bruno in an effort to provide false information with the intent to mislead the investigation.<br /><br />Ruiz was charged with misdemeanors of impersonating a public servant, tampering with/fabricating physical evidence, and obstruction.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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<title>Twitching, infertile white couple gets the wrong embryo during IVF (4 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452034,452034#msg-452034</link><description><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-couple-in-embryo-mix-up-looking-for-baby-s-biological-parents/ar-AA1Vzjtn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=69828e36aaf84253a8d7ca06404fef4b&ei=20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">And they got themselves their very own black baby!</a><br /><br />From the article:<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>The emotional trauma produced by such a scenario is impossible to comprehend: desperately wanting to celebrate the miracle that is birth while battling utter shock and confusion,” Score’s sister Alexa Score wrote. “Not to mention, being unable to talk to family and friends about their grief. This complex situation brings up multiple questions: Who and where are the baby’s biological parents? Where are Tiffany and Steve’s embryos? Were their embryos implanted into someone else? Do Tiffany and Steve have living breathing children in this world? The possibilities are hard to fathom.</div></blockquote><br />Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.<br /><br />There is the obligatory GoFundMe for their mental distress.<br /><br />As an aside, the woman looks to be about 90 years old. They both do. But IVF is so woooooorth it, right?]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 03:53:18 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Girl ODs on Moo's weight loss shots (6 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452031,452031#msg-452031</link><description><![CDATA[Apparently this happened at the end of 2024, but is just making news now. It seems this kid (who was seven at the time) got hold of her Moo's GLP-1 shots and dosed herself with about 60 percent of the injector's contents, which holds about a month's worth of doses.<br /><br />According to the story, the girl saw her mother use the medication and assumed it was for stomach aches, so must be she did it to herself when she had a stomach ache of her own.<br /><br />Welp, she didn't have a good time. The kid became limp and weak and vomited so much that she couldn't even keep water down. Poison Control advised an ER trip, and ER staff had no idea what to do. All you can do when overdosing on these drugs is wait it out.<br /><br />I've never taken these before, but don't you have to do it a special way? Like pinch the skin and then fiddle with the pen and wait a while for the medication to sink in? Don't the pens also require assembly? I've seen my friend who is diabetic use these devices and they need to be put together a little before each use.<br /><br />This kid managed to do all that perfectly? Multiple times? Also, precisely no child wants to get shots, and they want me to believe this child gave herself one on purpose? Without running sobbing to her Moo? And apparently Moo JUST got the shots the day the girl overdosed. Did she even get a chance to watch Moo take it? If she did, she would have only seen her use it once, but she managed to administer the drug to herself successfully after seeing her Moo use it one single time?<br /><br />And the Moo does not look fat enough to qualify for GLP-1s - like she's a little on the thick side, but by no means bariatric. Unless she is actually diabetic, there is no way she got these on the basis of her weight. You have to be obese and typically have comorbidities to get these medications in the first place.<br /><br />Something seems suspicious. I'm thinking either Moo wanted to see what side effects could happen and used it on the kid first, or she secretly wanted her daughter to lose weight and figured if she injected the kid with several doses, she wouldn't have to give it to her on a weekly basis (well the kid didn't eat for like a week, so she probably did lose a ton of weight). Or she wanted to have a reason to sue the manufacturer to land a fat settlement.<br /><br /><u>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-15521883/seven-indiana-girl-hospitalized-moms-GLP-1.html</u><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>A little girl in Indiana was hospitalized after overdosing on her mom's GLP-1 weight loss drugs.<br /><br />Jessa Milender, now eight years old, was found on the floor 'lifeless' in December 2024 after injecting herself with her mom's GLP-1 medication.<br /><br />'I thought it was stomach medicine,' Jessica told WHAS-11. 'My mom takes it and I thought it helped her with her stomachaches.'<br /><br />Jessa's mom, Melissa, discovered her daughter, who had administered herself with 60 percent of the GLP-1 injector pen, and called poison control.<br /><br />The seven-year-old had been vomiting almost every hour and experienced diarrhea, constipation and abdominal pain, medical records obtained by the outlet showed.<br /><br />Jessa was taken to the emergency room with sunken eyes and ashy skin where she was hooked up to an IV.<br /><br />'The ER staff didn't know what to do,' she told CBS 8. 'They just called Poison Control, and Poison Control told them the same thing they told me. They didn't know how to respond.'<br /><br />But she was discharged after her symptoms subsided, but when she got home she began vomiting again.<br /><br />'I don’t think we were prepared for how bad it was gonna get,' Melissa told WHAS-11. 'I should have never let them discharge her.'<br /><br />Jessa became so weak that her mom had to carry her to the bathroom.<br /><br />'She was thirsty. That's the only thing that she wanted to do was drink water, but then she would throw it up,' Melissa continued.<br /><br />The young girl returned to hospital where she then stopped urinating and doctors expressed concern for Jessa's kidneys, the outlet reported.<br /><br />'She didn’t eat for six days straight,' Melissa said, describing the incident as 'the worst week of our lives.'<br /><br />'She's my little girl,' she added. 'So that was rough.'<br /><br />Melissa told CBS 8 that she felt like Jessa was dying and added: 'That's how she looked. She had lost significant weight... her cheeks were sunken in, her eyes were sunken in.'<br /><br />'She couldn't walk from exhaustion and severe pain. She wouldn't even allow them to touch her stomach. She'd scream out in pain in her sleep. It was awful. It's a miracle that she didn't have long-term effects.'<br /><br />Now, Melissa keeps her medication locked in a box but said she believes it could have been a lot worse.<br /><br />'I got it the day she overdosed on it,' she told WHAS-11. 'It's been in my fridge ever since.'<br /><br />'Once you've injected too much, there's no "Whoops, let me take this to counteract it,"' she continued. 'Like no, now you're dealing with whatever the consequences are of that.'<br /><br />Melissa hopes in sharing her story that other parents can help protect their children.<br /><br />'I felt like no one had the answer on how to help her. I should have told her, "Don't ever touch this." It was just such an unprecedented event that I didn't think to plan for, prepare for,' she told CBS 8.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2026 19:48:57 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>&quot;Controversial influencers&quot; putting their brats on fb reels and getting threats (4 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452021,452021#msg-452021</link><description><![CDATA[There is this guy on fb reels who lets rip against a certain political side that wears a certain color hat. I enjoy listening to him as he does not hold back. As of late he has been mentioning his kids and had his kid on the fb reel, which has no bearing on what he was talking about. The brat had no idea what was going on and was about annoying as a kid could be. Anyway today the guy admitted to a certain random person who is a fan of a certain color ball cap threatened said kid with violence I can't repeat here to get back at the duh for speaking out against certain hat colors.<br />I asked myself why someone would even begin to put their brats in harm's way increasing the chances of something terrible happening to them. But us cf people are the evil and irresponsible ones.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 22:43:31 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>If you were raised by toxic parents... (no replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452013,452013#msg-452013</link><description><![CDATA[Hello,<br /><br />I recently set up a Facebook group called Child-free Off-Spring of Toxic Parents. The traditional "grown kids of narcissists" and estranged adult kid groups are too breeder-centric. People will go on and on about how their parents did them wrong and then go and have kids and repeat the cycle. People say that they will do better than their own parents, but they rarely do. They might not do what their parents did to them, but they''ll do something else bad. They will allow the toxic grandmoo or pedo grand-duh to be around their kids because "famblee!". Or they'll be too cheap or broke to get a real babysitter so they will have their parents do it and fuck up a whole new generation. I am the adult off spring of a deadbeat dad and a toxic moo who kept comparing me to said dad. I just can't with groups who allow breeders in them because the same toxic dynamics just keeps repeating. It's nauseating. There comes a point where you seriously need to ask yourself if a toxic tree really needs more branches. People want kids but don't think about what is best for the resulting kids.<br /><br />Anyhoo, here's the link if you want to join: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/g/16RMUJvxky/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Childfree Offspring of Toxic Parents</a> . I personally don't care who knows I am a member/admin of a childfree group. I am not that cowardly.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2026 01:35:23 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>More breeder selfishness from reddit (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452010,452010#msg-452010</link><description><![CDATA[A guy posts asking if he's an asshole for convincing his sister (after also "convincing" his girlfriend to support this) to renege on adopting her child out <i>after</i> the couple had the baby for two weeks. He said she was saying things like "this was for the best," but he could "tell" that she was regretful so he harangued a hormonal post-partum woman until she agreed to take back the child. The father had already bailed, and in this guy's words, his sister was "single mom, one bed apartment, hand-to-mouth budget, emotionally in a bad space." But of course she NEEDS the child back because SHE'S regretful. He keeps insisting that he and his girlfriend will support his sister with anything she needs, but with that set up, I'd like to know where they are when the kid's older and looking to go to college and maybe needs a car and definitely has medical bills and daily expenses and...that woman, who tried to do the right thing, has just locked herself into continued poverty for the foreseeable future.<br /><br />When people told the guy of course he's an asshole for interfering and getting the child removed from a financially stable environment, somebody told him his post had been reposted on the adoption sub and he wound up going there for sympathy.<br /><br />Let me tell you, what a wild ride that was for me as an outsider looking in.<br /><br />I'd have thought a sub dedicated to the adoption process would have been more sympathetic to it, but nooooo, at least not on that post. Top comments are stuff like "I’m not an adoptee or an adoptive parent at all, but people rallying around a couple that can buy a baby instead of a baby and a mom that want to stay together was just… shocking to me." What's shocking to me is that people, even in an adoption sub, would rather have children raised in poverty than adopted out where they can have a stable home life instead. The comment that really got me was this:<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Selfish Moo</strong><br/>
I’m a run of the mill parent and I was appalled at comments saying the mom was worse off WITH her baby than she was without. Maybe materially, but money sure as shit ain’t everything. I’ve lived in poverty and know its contours, and I still would choose poverty with my son over luxury without him.</div></blockquote><br />Well, isn't that nice for you, dear. Now what would your son choose? Would he rather live in poverty's contours with you, or would he rather have a safe home and food stability?<br /><br />I think these asshole breeders who romanticize (or fetishize) struggling to raise their kids in poverty while they say things like "love is more important than money" seriously underestimate the damage done to children who grow up going without basic needs or worrying whether they'll get to eat that day. But sure, CF people are the selfish ones.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 03:38:23 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Kids causing expensive damage (6 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452000,452000#msg-452000</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1qfban1/toddler_got_into_my_makeup/?post_fullname=t3_1qfban1&post_index=3&target_user=TotalCarbohydrateOne<br /><br />Moo's brat wrecked all her make up and then smeared it all over a nice white chair, a chair she referred to as her boobfeeding chair. One of the commenters said that her brat crapped on an office chair and the chair had to be wrapped and taken outside so the literal turd could be dumped]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 22:48:32 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>SVU Antinatalist episode (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451998,451998#msg-451998</link><description><![CDATA[Did anyone see the Law and Order SVU episode from back in October where a major plot point was some people from the Reddit Antinatalist sub (which is an actual sub) bombed a fertility clinic and killed a doctor? What a bunch of propaganda. In the episode, a middle aged guy who was clearly supposed to look a bit like Charlie Manson had "brainwashed" a few young women into being antinatalists and they had met on Reddit. They then went out and blew up the clinic and as a result the chief doctor died.<br /><br />I had a friend visit who is in love with this show, so I watched it with her and I couldn't believe how balls out they were with the misinformation and lies. Antinatalists are generally peaceful people who don't want kids because they don't want them to suffer - that's it. Basically they are anti-suffering. I can only imagine this is more of the media in collusion with other power entities like our government and big business to get people to think being childfree and antinatalist is Big Bad. Imagine that you are the average dumdum watching this show and you have a young adult granddaughter (let's call her Becky). Becky comes home for the holidays, and MeeMaw asks when she is going to marry her boyfriend and have baybees. Becky says she doesn't want kids and that the world is going in the wrong direction for that anyway. MeeMaw thinks she has been "brainwashed" by antinatalists because she saw it on a TV show and then lectures her, freaks out and rats her out to anyone with ears, including people who could have an impact on her actual life.<br /><br />I fucking hate TV in general as I see it as a tool to manipulate the masses against their best interests, but with everything going on in the world right now including the fearmongering about "falling birth rates" being an actual problem (while being told that jobs will be replaced with AI, climate change and environmental destruction caused by humans will affect our ability to produce food, etc) it wouldn't surprise me if this was done on purpose with to produce this exact outcome.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 15:06:36 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Woman dies waiting for abortion appointment (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451996,451996#msg-451996</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1qcmcsz/a_pregnant_woman_at_risk_of_heart_failure_couldnt/<br /><br />Why women risk this in today's climate is beyond me. She leaves behind a two year old]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2026 20:46:01 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>At this rate, polio could make a comeback thanks to antivaxx assholes (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451988,451988#msg-451988</link><description><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/11/the-anti-vax-movements-wildest-claim-yet-polio-wasnt-so-bad/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The Anti-Vax Movement’s Wildest Claim Yet: Polio Wasn’t So Bad</a><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>
Even in the house of horrors that is vaccine-preventable illnesses, polio stands out as particularly terrifying. Before the rollout of the vaccine in the 1950s, the disease paralyzed or killed more than 500,000 people worldwide every year. The disease was especially catastrophic for children, some of whom were confined for years to wheelchairs or a mechanical breathing chamber known ominously as the iron lung. Older people remember being forbidden to play outside during summer outbreaks for fear that they would catch the disease.<br /><br />The darker chapters of public health history do not seem to faze anti-vaccine activists, who have long claimed that measles, a catastrophic disease, is no big deal. Now, it’s polio’s turn to be downplayed.<br /><br />Over the last few months, a handful of influential anti-vaccine activists have dabbled in polio denialism. In September, for example, Larry Cook, founder of the anti-vaccine group Stop Mandatory Vaccination, falsely claimed to his 137,000 followers on X that polio “was cured with high dose vitamin C” and that “the polio vaccine NEVER stopped polio. We’ve been lied to for decades and decades.”<br /><br />....<br />T<b>hen, earlier this week, a video of a man holding a baby while talking about polio made the rounds. In addition to repeating Humphries’ and de Becker’s dubious talking points, he claims that modern sanitation could stop the spread of polio. “You have to literally put the feces of a polio-infected human being into your mouth to contract polio,” he announces. “And that sounds more like a sanitation issue rather than a vaccination issue.”</b> (Presumably the baby this guy is holding does not attend daycare, where the fecal-oral route of disease transmission is, uh, robust.) The video has been viewed 376,000 times on X and counting.<br /><br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Imagine how people who grew up witnessing the horrors of polio (people dying or becoming crippled because of that nightmare disease) , must feel seeing these worthless assclowns claiming it wasn't so bad and telling people not to get their kids vaccinated for it.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2026 08:50:00 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Single moo boots kid out for boyfriend (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451984,451984#msg-451984</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/AmIOverreacting/comments/1q6exrc/aio_my_mom_is_kicking_me_out_for_her_new/<br /><br />It maybe AI, but if this is true, a teen is getting the boot at 18 having never worked at any job before as the boyfriend wants the kid out and him in. Many are saying the military is an option, but a real bad time for it.]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfdavep</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2026 00:43:31 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Poor little kitties (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451983,451983#msg-451983</link><description><![CDATA[I was volunteering at the shelter this morning and there were two black medium length hair, fluffy black kittens and of course I fantasied about running away with them. While I was in the socialization room with them a woman came to the door twice to look at them. She was someone I saw on the way in with a year old brat that was screeching to high heaven. Sure enough as I was leaving she was coming down the hall again saying to the worker "Yes I want the two black ones that I met last Friday" As I was leaving I thought "Ain't that the way, the kitties get a home, but it is with a tail pulling screecher and maybe a couple more at home. Cats HATE loud noise and will strke a kid that will attack them. I felt sorry for them on the way out, but that is the way it is. I wonder if they will be back in a couple of months as one of them swatted Bratty Pants]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2026 17:14:27 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Woman from KY may get life in prison for abortion (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451978,451978#msg-451978</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1q2ttk4/kentucky_woman_faces_life_in_prison_theoretically/<br /><br />Don't know how far along she was but she took meds online to complete an abortion and someone in the medical field apparently turned her in to the authorities. On 2X they are saying all she had to do was keep her mouth shut and that is what they are advising women. They were talking of the absolute insanity of period trackers and where that can lead]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfdavep</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2026 21:55:15 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Will Gen Z brats be able to take over one day? (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451969,451969#msg-451969</link><description><![CDATA[Some teachers discuss the grim future of Gen Z brats in the workplace<br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>ButIDntWanaBeAPirate</strong><br/>
<span style="font-size:large">Is Gen Z going to be able to take over someday?</span><br /><br />After reading what I’ve read here, I’d be a fool not to ask…<br /><br />Am I just a juvenoiac, or are these kids being sent out into the world woefully underprepared? Is the bell curve still… well… a bell curve? Are they better/worse/do they need help?<br /><br />I am beginning to encounter Gen Z in the workforce in a meaningful way, and, uh, well… I see a lot of humor here, so I’m asking the experts, completely in earnest…<br /><br />I’m a Millennial, myself, and I have no professional educational experience, so I’m not here to judge, but these kids don’t [seem to] know anything about anything, and I want to know if it’s just the ones with whom I work, or if I should get used to this… I work in the tech industry.<br /><br />So let’s hear it, my ostensibly professionally enlightening friends! What say you?</div></blockquote>
https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1gzjpbe/comment/lz3m4y3/<br /><br />Responses<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>musicmaj</strong><br/><br /><br />People thought the same about millennials and yet here we are.<br /><br />As I mentioned in a comment a few days ago, my husband's business has a particular problem with the <b>Gen Z employee continually calling out each week for the most ridiculous things</b>, like it being his best buds bday that day. <b>My sister's husband just clocked a Gen Z employee at his work because the guy kept kicking his tools around the construction site, he told him to stop, guy kept kicking them on purpose, so he got clocked.</b> These kids haven't experienced any real world consequences for things like absences or being an annoying little shite, and they think they can continue the same behaviour at work.<br /><br />But these kids will get fired or punched, many will learn, some won't, and the world will eventually sort itself out, and then the ocean levels will rise and we'll all die anyways.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />It seems gen z is doomed and its mostly the fault of lazy breeders who couldn't/wouldn't teach them basdic life skills and gen alpha is even worse.<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>musicmaj</strong><br/><br /><br />Yeah. I'm even more scared for Gen Alpha. My friends are raising Gen A kids and it is...fucking scary. One has a 4.5 year old who isn't potty trained because "her kid doesn't want to and she doesn't want to traumatize her" and for all my friends, none of their kids sleep in their own beds and all bedshare because they can't bear leaving the child alone. Some don't even own separate beds at all for their children.<br /><br />I have an almost 6 month old. She sleeps great in her own bed in her own room because I never let her bedshare because all safety experts said don't, and then I sleep trained her once it was developmentally recommended. She rolled both directions nice and early because I prioritized her hated tummy time. I have done quite a few things to keep nudging her more and more towards independence, even at almost 6 months old. Because, although this seems to be an unpopular opinion amongst parents these days, I believe the goal of most parenting should be to raise independent humans who have empathy and resiliency. And I just see way too many these days who seem to want to raise entitled kids with no ability to think or do for themselves and melt down at inconveniences or challenges.<br /></div></blockquote>]]></description>
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<title>Reddit moos flock to say &quot;it's different when it's your own&quot; (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451968,451968#msg-451968</link><description><![CDATA[A reddit posts asks moos who never liked brats but endd up having them anyway, what their experience is like.<br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Main thread</strong><br/>
Women who never liked brats but became mothers anyway, how did things turn out for you?</div></blockquote><br />THread; <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/comment/nwjmrog/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/comment/nwjmrog/</a><br />The responses are something else:<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>LydiLouWho</strong><br/><br /><br /><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/comment/nwk1uqb/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">I ended up having 3. I still don’t like the kid stage. I</a> don’t like playing, or pretending. I don’t like “watch me”. I don’t like sticky fingers and germs. I don’t like the same conversation day after day after day… But it was never a sacrifice to love and care for my children. And then they became teenagers and became AWESOME. I simply could not get enough of them at that age and being a mom finally felt important and I felt effective as a parent.<br /><br />A couple are young adults now and they are still just as amazing as when they were teens and I am so happy that I had them. I learned that while I may not like the little kid stage, I was built to be a mom of teens to the point that when my last child finishes high school I am seriously considering fostering/adopting children 12 and up. Nothing would give me more joy than to be a support, and to help them navigate such a challenging time of life.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>musicmaj</strong><br/>
<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/women_who_never_liked_kids_but_became_mothers/nwo93g8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">I don't really like young kids, and know this because actually <b>I teach elementary music, kindergarten- grade 5.</b> I was forced into the role by my district because they had NO elementary music teachers and I was a high school band teacher. They told me not to expect more job offers if I turned down this job (I had already turned down other elementary jobs, too). I've now been in this role 10 years.</a><br /><br />So I knew I really wasn't fond of kids until they're about 9, because I work with them. <b>But I really loved working with teens, and thought if I could birth a teen that would be ideal.</b> I'm the type to try and get out of anyone asking me to hold their baby. Never changed a diaper. Just not a baby or kid person at all. Had a childfree wedding. <b>But I really liked how funny and quirky teens are so I thought if I had a kid, I could just white knuckle it until they reached double digits. I was really afraid of not being able to bond with the baby for awhile.</b><br /><br />After having a baby, I still don't like babies. I don't want to hold babies. They hold no interest for me.<br /><br />EXCEPT MY BABY. She is currently 18 months old and is THE GREATEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO ME AND I LOVE EVERY SECOND WITH HER. I love holding her, cuddling her, reading to her, playing with her, just spending my whole day with her.<br /><br />So in short, I don't feel any different about babies and kids in general after having one, with the exception of my own baby, who is the love of my life.<br /></div></blockquote><br />THis is the same person who admitted to having brats because she wanted a guaranteed friend and admitted to being absolutely <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1bxf6da/comment/kydl7ao/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">miserable during pregnancy in another thread</a>.<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>ManeaterTM</strong><br/>
<a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/women_who_never_liked_kids_but_became_mothers/nwknwaa/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Now that my 2 kids are adult/teen, I enjoy motherhood. It definitely was not for me when my kids were young. I had kids because I thought my partner really wanted kids. 1 changed his mind and walked out on us. The other, definitely wanted kids and is a great dad.</a><br /><br />But motherhood was really rough and traumatic with my first child (former teen mom) and I went through with having a child because I came from a terrible home and wanted to prove a point to my parents (addicts) that I could be a better parent than they ever were.<br /><br />I did well and I can pat myself on the back. However, it was traumatic raising a child with disabilities as a kid with disabilities myself.<br /><br />I do not enjoy small kids. I hate small kid activities. I hate loud noises. I like privacy and need like 4hrs of alone time a day.<br /><br />Would i do it again? Hell no. I put on an academy award winning act to survive it and not traumatize my kids. I did not enjoy any part from birth to 17 years old with my oldest. She is in her 20s now and i can actually enjoy her now. My youngest was way easier and I started to enjoy her when she turned 11years old. They are the absolute best young adults on the planet and I am so proud of them daily.<br /><br />But i do love my kids more than life itself. I really do not like anything young kid-related though. Even with friends, I experience immense guilt because I do not want to be around their kids (and all my friends are just having kids in their mid/late 30s).<br /><br />If I had to do it all over again, I'd wait til my 30s and foster teens.<br /></div></blockquote>
These are responses are pretty interesting since most breeders despise the teenager stage (too rebellious). Its rare to see a breeder that actually likes the teenager stage<br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Criseyde2112</strong><br/><br /><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/comment/nwjsu74/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Kids? Ugh. I was raised to be annoyed by children but I also changed career paths and began teaching third grade when I was 37. Suddenly I really enjoyed being around kids.</a> They were fun and appreciated my silly humor.<br /><br />And then, out of nowhere, I wanted to have a baby. I was 40 when my second IVF cycle was successful. I was over the moon with joy. I loved being pregnant. I loved every stage of my son’s life. I especially appreciated that I was in a fantastic place with my marriage and our finances and our education. Most people don’t get this lucky. There are a million outcomes that might have happened, and I’m so pleased with mine.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>UnicornQueenFaye</strong><br/><br /><br />Being fully honest, the first three months was rough, I lacked any feelings of attachment, in fact I felt detached, bonding wasn’t coming and I had a harsh bought of postpartum that I didn’t realize I was suffering from.<br /><br />Thanks to my countries medical care and my spouse’s attentiveness, both issues resolved with time. Now, after three years. I love my kid.<br /><br />He’s taught me so much about my life. How to be a better person, what really matters in life, how to take time to just play and rest, how to remain calm, how to reframe things to better explain them or have myself be understood.<br /><br />His existence makes my life better and every day I do everything I can to make his life better, he’s my reason to keep going, keep trying, keep living. His silly happy self brings me a level of happiness I never knew was possible.<br /><br />I love being a mom.<br /><br />Still can’t stand other peoples kids.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Maleficent_Glove_477</strong><br/>
To be honest, I still don't really much enjoy kids, including my kid but when she is not here I miss her very much, and I do love cuddle her. She is just very active, always bouncing of the walls, jumping everywhere, rough housing or being up to no good (as a 4 years old kid so it's like if I don't watch her one second she will hide to draw on the walls or climb something she sbouldn't!). She is also very very defiant, always has been, and rough, and I had a chart with stars that she could earn if she didn't hurt me for an entire day. We have yet to see stars on this chart. Not blaming her though her dad is useless and showing the bad example.<br /><br />She has awesome qualities though, she us insanely strong compared to others kids her age and very athletic, she is smart and curious, come with really nice jokes, her being defiant is I Guess her way of questionning the rules. She won't obey if she doesn't understand.<br /><br />Even as a kid I was very quiet and more of a reading kid, so even as a kid I didn't like the others kid to be honest.<br /><br />Wouldn't avoid to have her and start all over because she is still my favorite person but damn, I don't like motherhood much.<br /></div></blockquote>
Baby rabies suddenly hit<br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Tiny-historian289</strong><br/>
<a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/women_who_never_liked_kids_but_became_mothers/nwjo8hj/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">I’ve never liked other people kids but always always wanted to be a mum.</a> I love my kids. I’ve found I’m incredibly patient with small people that are learning and don’t know better yet. Not patient at all with adults that knowingly make poor decisions. I’m a better person to my small people than I am to anyone else.</div></blockquote><br />I don't get people who are all like "I've never liked kyds but I want to be a parent". To me that's like saying "I don't like dogs but I've always wanted to be a dog owner"<br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Helanore</strong><br/>
I was the go to babysitter growing up. I took care of neighbor kids, my brother, and my dad's boss' kids. I hated it. Swore I wouldnt have kids and when my doctor said I had PCOS, I felt relieved.<br /><br />When I was 21 I met my now husband. Watching him with the nephews, made me feel a desire to see what kind of father he would be. We had one child and i loved being a mother. It was very different experience to babysitting. I have 4 kids now. I couldnt imagine life without them.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>littlehulky</strong><br/>
<a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1pymkvq/women_who_never_liked_kids_but_became_mothers/nwjo335" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">I never wanted kids, I had a great career and I was perfectly content being a cat lady. But my husband really wanted them and my ovaries started playing tricks on me in my late 20s. Once I had one child, I knew that I wanted her to have siblings, so we had 3</a>.<br /><br />I hated the baby years. I got terrible PPD and I was convinced I would never know happiness ever again. My mantra was “you can be a good parent or you can have fun, but not both.” I thought that being a good mother meant putting myself last and doing everything for my children. I was so sleep deprived and every day was painfully exhausting, thankless, and boring. It didn’t help that I had 3 under 3 during covid lockdowns, so dealing with a newborn and two toddlers without being able to live normal life felt like torture.<br /><br />However. When my youngest turned 3, it was like the sun came out again and I could breathe. I realised I didn’t have to completely lose myself to motherhood like some misguided martyr, and I started to incorporate some of my old hobbies and passions, and I began to love being a Mum.<br /><br />Now they are a little older and they are just my favourite humans in the universe. I enjoy their company, I love hearing their little theories on life and how excited they are when they discover new ideas or old ideas for the first time. I miss them so deeply when I am away from them and I would choose this path again every time. They make every experience better, and getting to see the world through their eyes is a special gift. So yeah.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Stinkykitty71</strong><br/>
Not always. I never liked children, then despite two forms of bc I got pregnant the day my ex and I moved into our new house. Everything changed when I found out. I loved being pregnant, and I adore my son. Had another intentionally years later. Best thing ever. But I still don't like kids, just mine. It's a ton of work, and it's exhausting those early years giving them consistency so they don't turn into assholes. They need so much structure and freedom at the same time lol.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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<title>&quot;A booty call with paperwork&quot; (no replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451967,451967#msg-451967</link><description><![CDATA[I was looking at the facebook reels and saw this one comedian named Christopher Titus. he went on about married people with kids are like pilots flying a plane to get their passengers (kids) to a place of independance and success when they land and if there is a divorce part way through "the flight" then that is like a crash.<br />He then called married people without kids, "booty calls with paperwork" and made fun of the cf/cl people divorcing for fighting over who is going to get the Star Trek DVD's or whatever is on the shelf and sarcastically said that "yeah, you will need a lawyer for that"<br />I guess us cf people in marriages are all just sleeping around with one personwith nothing to show for it]]></description>
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