http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/index.phpTue, 21 May 2013 17:21:20 -0400 Phorum 5.2.9a http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300102,300102#msg-300102 Co-Sleeping Increases SIDS Risk Five-Fold (1 reply)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300102,300102#msg-300102
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A new study has found that babies sharing beds with their parents face a five fold risk of dying of cot death.

BABIES sharing beds with their parents face a five fold risk of dying of cot death, even if their parents are not smokers, new research shows.

The increased risk of death extends to babies previously thought to be at low risk because they are breastfed and the mother has not taken alcohol or drugs, according to a study published in the British Medical Journal Open.

The findings come after 1472 Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) cases and 4679 control cases from Australasia, the UK and Europe were analysed in the largest ever study of cot death.

The SIDS rate would plummet if parents avoided bed sharing and public healthy messages were more forceful about the dangers for babies under three months, the authors, led by Professor Robert Carpenter, said.

“Eighty eight percent of the deaths that occurred while bed sharing would probably not have occurred had the baby been placed on its back in a cot by the parents' bed,’’ the authors concluded.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national-news/nsw-act/study-sheds-new-light-on-cot-deaths/story-fnii5s3x-1226647801128#ixzz2TxLTwpyO
]]> cfchevygirl The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 15:26:47 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300086,300086#msg-300086 Duhd Camp Chronicles: Pot Calling the Kettle Black :wtf (no replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300086,300086#msg-300086riffed...for your pleasure!

Today's subject? Parents who overshare. Yes, I'm absolutely serious...parental oversharing. This coming from the grand wizard of the douchewaffles who just wrote a post about fucking Legos!

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Douchewaffle drippings
While it is fine to reblog, share, and like – when you take something of yourself and post it online, you risk crossing the TMI threshold. It’s worse if you’re a parent, locked in a world that, really and truly, revolves around your kids. Take that eager excitement of potty training and talk about it online and you are now a sharent.

Not that you're describing yourself or anything, BuzzKill... :rolleyes2


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The Guardian this weekend wrote about “sharents”, labelling the likes of parents who overshare online. The article named me as a parent who overshares and will likely face psychiatric bills for my children because of the articles I have written about them in the past.

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt, dumbass. If you do face shrink bills down the road, how will you pay for them? Would you have to give up the nanny, the summer camps, the *gasp* private school tuition, and all the other trappings of your pseudo-middle-class life? Oh, the horror! :hs By the way, your sprogs are eventually going to stumble across the buffet of bullshit you call a blog, and it will affect them in some form.

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In the fall, I wrote about the struggles I faced when trying to relate with my toddling son. I mentioned that I got along easier with my kindergartner, and when it came to splitting up the kids for chores, or what have you, I would take the oldest, my wife would take the youngest and things would go smoothly.

Once again, using far too many words, I'm telling the world that I hate Chooch, and that Zacharie is number one! :rolleyes2

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Grand Poobah Blahgger Speaks
I talked about having “a favorite child,” and my post went viral. TV news, talk shows, newspapers, blogs, and more picked up on the unspeakable ‘favorite child’ topic. Truth is, many parents have a favorite. It ebbs and flows throughout parenthood, the issue being never to treat your children differently – and I never have.

I envy you, Buzz, really, I do. It must be amazing living in Fantasia...I'll come hang out with you when I need a break from living in the real world. You've never treated your children differently? Can I ask your nannies, past and present, if this is true?

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Let me wrap this up with more denial
Still, there is much Google juice attached to this story now, and whenever you search my name online the sensational articles related to the story will follow. So my kids, according to the author (and many anonymous comment trolls), will need therapy.

Except, no they won’t.

Um, yeah, they might need therapy. In the event they don't end up in an institution, or outright murdering you, there's a whole list of bad things that could happen to you, dear BuzzKill.

Your kids could:

Throw you into a nursing home that makes Arkham Asylum look like Club Med
Rob you of all your money
Write a tell-all book about what a wonderful, respectful parent you are (Looking forward to your future book, Charlie!)
Move far away and never speak to you again (because you're such a wonderful dad, right?)
Not have children of their own due to the bullshit you put them through
Turn into drug addicts and/or alcoholics

(And that's just the tip of the iceberg...) You still think they won't need therapy after a while? Keep wearing that tinfoil hat, Buzz...it suits you! :dunce :drool]]> popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 13:58:51 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300045,300045#msg-300045 "Get Britain Fertile" (2 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300045,300045#msg-300045campaign underway (I haven't been able to visit the actual website; I think it is getting hammered) in the UK to encourage women to have children when they are young instead of waiting. The spokeswoman for the campaign is Kate Garraway, who caused some fuss a few years ago for breastfeeding a calf. (All I can think when I see the advertisement - where she's made to look elderly and pregnant - is that moohood sure appears to age you.)

The campaign is paid for by First Response, which makes pregnancy testing kits. (I hope you'll boycott them if you find yourself in the unfortunate position of needing a pregnancy test.)

Here's an article about the misogyny of the campaign although it doesn't touch on the points I'd touch upon, namely we don't need more babies and it barely addresses the women who don't want to have babies (although it does note that, is perfectly valid, just as it is valid for men to not want babies). Here's another post which takes issue with the campaign:

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It seems to be a fear-based campaign. Health psychology tells us that health promotion campaigns based on fear are not necessarily effective in changing people’s behaviour (e.g. Soames, 1998). Fear based campaigns can also contribute to social stigma and negative social discourses. The AIDS awareness campaigns of the 80s, for example, with the massive falling tombstone that told us nothing about actual facts around AIDS and HIV, but which managed to increase stigma around an already stigmatised illness. Older women who don’t yet have children may not be stigmatised to the degree of HIV+ people in the 80s, but there is a prevalent social discourse that women “should” be having children, and this social pressure tends to increase the older the woman is. First Response’s campaign seems to me to add to this negative discourse and use fear-based tactics to try to promote pregnancy.
]]> yurble The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 13:22:21 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300039,300039#msg-300039 Another moo tells the truth about violent autards (5 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300039,300039#msg-300039
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2328293/If-son-dog-Id-Mother-son-suffers-ADHD-says-unlike-pet-owners-choice-violence.html

At least she's telling the truth about living with a violent autard.

Sad thing is - she says that when he's violent she has to cuddle him. Fuck that, if he punched me, I'd punch him right back.]]> chahu The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 14:09:29 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,300023,300023#msg-300023 A whole new world (no replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,300023,300023#msg-300023
Unfortunately, they are things that I could have spent an entire life being okay with not knowing that they exist.

Mrs. Empty Nester attends a convention every year. Which one says you? The RT Booklover's Convention, which is supposedly some huge showdown of romance/erotica "writers" and readers. I looked it up online, and there are all kinds of workshops for the person looking to break into the genre, all kinds of fan workshops, things for teenagers, etc.

Mrs. EN has a Facebook album devoted to her time spent at these conventions. I got up an hour and a half ago to get ready for an interview, and all I've done is sit here and scream with laughter at these pics.

Seriously, I have never seen so many obese soccer Moms gathered in one place. The Moos at this "convention" can keep a sex toy business open for a century. OMFG. Everyone in sight is jacked up.

Well, everyone needs some sort of convention I guess to meet like-minded folks. I'm not sure that a hotel full of oversexed, suburban mothers is my thing - but hey, Dog bless.

ETA: I can't even tell you how I am DYING to try and post some of those pics here. They would be all time favorites.]]> surgicalvetnurse The PatioTue, 21 May 2013 09:49:54 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300013,300013#msg-300013 Guess what? Moooh titjuice is not SO special after all... (4 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,300013,300013#msg-300013
This paper is a rewiev of allll the litterature about magickal tittyjuices:

Science, I SO love it...

And the result is: no long term benefit of BF! Woooo WHO would have believed it? (aside from us, mean CF people).




____

PS: the standard error of the IQ test is 3 point. As such, an increase of 2.3 points of IQ is nothing.]]> t. The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 13:32:54 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299956,299956#msg-299956 Am I an asshole? (4 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299956,299956#msg-299956 yorkielover The PatioTue, 21 May 2013 04:42:23 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299921,299921#msg-299921 Another sad little woe-is-moo tale :rolleyes2 (9 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299921,299921#msg-299921 popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 10:01:54 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299875,299875#msg-299875 Popcorn's Newest Duhdy Blahgg Roasting Victim: Out-Numbered (12 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299875,299875#msg-299875
Here it is: Where the Dick is Supposed To Be (Yes, this is the actual title.)

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Out-And-About Numbskull
I am a man. I have a wife and two daughters. I live with them in a house. I am outnumbered.

The reason for the brief history is because over the past few years the dynamic of my family has slowly changed.

Balance.

I sound like the Terminator when I write. I am very boring. I have a boring famblee. Og house lack testosterone. Og need balls-lance.

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Og speak more
Today he eats, he climbs and he shits on newspaper just like my two daughters. The only difference is that my daughters don't shit on newspaper.

(He's referring to a lizard.) I housebroke my daughters using newspapers, because we couldn't afford potty chairs. They don't shit on newspaper anymore, thank goodness.

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Granted, a boy with no dick but I'll take it!

I need something to offset all of this fucking estrogen in this house!

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More madness
About two months ago we welcomed a four month old puppy into our home.

He is healthy, happy and he shits in the yard just like my two daughters. The only difference is that my daughters don't shit in the yard yet.

His name is Cody and he is a boy.

I am positive he is a boy. It's as clear as day. He has a little doggie dick right where it's supposed to be and he spends a good portion of his day humping a furry pillow. It reminds me of when I was a teenager.

This dog has completely changed our lives.

Did I mention that my daughters are housebroken? They've got the toilet thing down pat, but we're working on getting them to handle their business outdoors. And yes, I do spend inordinate amounts of time looking at animal penises, because I get soooo bored just looking at mine all of the time. Every time I watch him hump the pillow, I reminisce about that time I humped the love seat in my parents' living room. Yes, this doggie (and his dick) have changed my life.

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Duh drudgery
There is more joy in the house. There is less yelling, less stress and my wife is sounding like a mental patient again filled to the brim with love and affection. It spews out of her like hot magma in sentiments like, "hello poochie magoochie" and "hello puppy wiggles".

Doggie Goo Goo Ga Ga.

It's like having a baby all over again and it feels nice.

There's more joy because there's more testosterone...I don't feel so much like a little bitch now that Cody's here! My wife doing her baby talk thing is really turning me on...damn, I'm getting boner-fied! :dirty Having Cody around is like a new baby...except he's smarter.

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Three vaginas and two and a half dicks living together in not so perfect harmony.

And on that note, Duhdy needs to fap for a while.]]> popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 08:35:33 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299847,299847#msg-299847 One fugly loaf (20 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299847,299847#msg-299847this one did, accurately calling it ugly. Now moos are lowing about the bad man.:rolleyes2]]> aliceblue The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 00:06:41 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299842,299842#msg-299842 Ten Über-Creepy Toys (4 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299842,299842#msg-299842scare loaves, or if they were inspired by them....:hs

Yikes!]]> popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 15:17:24 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299837,299837#msg-299837 Looks like traffic rules don't apply to moos (19 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299837,299837#msg-299837
Most of the time they just stay a couple of minutes because god forbids their loaves have to walk more than 10 meters to arrive to the school's entrance. Also we have sometimes, specially around 5:00 PM school buses blocking all entrances for up to an hour. But the worsts times are when they have festivals or the moos take their loaves to the swimming school because they just leave the car parked blocking the entrance without giving a single fuck.

There has been many complaints against the school, but have been useless, and the cops watching the other entrance of the school (because that school has two entrances), but the mostly watch that no loaf get ran over. And if ask moos to move their pieces of crap from your entrance they first try play dumb and hide until you traten to have their car towed, then they magically appear and start making excuses like they didn't saw that there wasn't an entrace (how can someone drive when they cannot see a big door with a "not parking" sign and sometimes a car parked behind).

And it is not only here wherever there is a school, there is chaos. In some place they do double or triple parking, doesn't matter if they get a fine, they keep doing it. it really pisses me off.]]> master kyle The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 16:52:33 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299831,299831#msg-299831 Duhd Camp Chronicles: Lego Edition :rolleyes2 (10 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299831,299831#msg-299831
(Note: I loathe the 'Toys For Boys' tag! :fu )

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Duh babble
Problem is, they don’t. It’s not quite the same. The curves don’t quite match, the connectors don’t quite fit, and the ride isn’t quite as smooth.

There’s nothing wrong with them, they just don’t go together as well as the very expensive original.

Let's see...growing up, my parents couldn't always afford original Legos, and the imitation ones did just fine. They may not have fit correctly all of the time, but my brothers and I had no issues. :rolleyes2

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I’m now discovering the same thing about Lego and competing brands of building blocks. Over the past few months, Zacharie and Charlie have received Mega Bloks and Kreo sets and I’m realizing – they’re not quite Lego.

Can you get any more anal-retentive than that? Of course they're not quite like Lego! :headbrick

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Yes, both Mega Bloks and Kreo are compatible with Lego. Yes, they’re cheaper. Yes, it doesn’t really matter about the model because 5 minutes after you’ve finished building it, something snaps off and it all ends up in one big smorgasbord potpourri mosh pit for your kids to pick through and rebuild something from their imagination.

Yes, the cheap wannabes are good. No, it doesn't really matter, but I'm going to blather on like it does matter because I'm hard up for blog ideas! :dunce

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WILL THE KIDS NOTICE?

Our Lego bin has a mixture of bricks from all 3 manufacturers discussed here, but to the boys they are all “Lego.” I’m the only one that knows the Kreo bricks with the hole don’t stick as tightlyt. I’m the only one that notices the Mega Blok bricks don’t say Lego. The kids don’t care.

The kids don't care what brand their building blocks are, while I don't care about the correct spelling of 'tightly'. :hammer

Let's see...he complains about how much more he has to fork out over vacations, yet has some money for a nanny and original Legos? And we're ebil, selfish and entitled? :iws]]> popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 00:30:28 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299813,299813#msg-299813 The notion that children are more important than adults. (27 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299813,299813#msg-299813
It just seems that, at times, kids are considered more valuable than adults.

We're "supposed" to simply put up with their behavior because it's "just how they are."

What do you think?

I had a hard time wording this post...]]> grammarnut The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 15:16:58 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299796,299796#msg-299796 Work Email :cen (9 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299796,299796#msg-299796 vampamanda The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 00:41:22 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299787,299787#msg-299787 Skeptical...think he could have taken or left parenthood, actually.... (2 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299787,299787#msg-299787
I have long gotten the feeling that the lifescript-y pressure has come from her, not him. Once she hit thirty she suddenly became a lot more traditionally-minded...wanted to get married, have kids, buy a house. I'd love to get her husband just drunk enough to get to the 'truthful/in vino veritas' stage and ask him what he REALLY thinks of the past six or eight years of his life, because I only see what his wife says about it.

I'd wanna know if he is really okay with having that ridiculous Mazda 5 mom-mobile and a house that's wall-to-wall kindercrap. I'd wanna ask how his own creative endeavors are--what about that game system he was designing? His writing projects? I'd like to know whether co-sleeping was really that great, because I've noticed that all the proponents of it are women. They'd also agreed to a certain degree of openness in their relationship before the baby-rabies days, and I wonder if he was really okay with going back to total monogamy...that's such a fundamental change. I'd like to know if he misses having his buddies over for gaming. What I'd really like to ask him: if the "miracle" (read: medical assistance) hadn't happened, would you have been just fine with no kids? Better off?

I just have this feeling that he's not as into parenthood as she is. Sure, he's an attentive dad and all. But he doesn't seem like one who'd be all into the immersive lifestyle that parenthood is nowadays.]]> randomcfchick The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 12:56:34 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299777,299777#msg-299777 Moo Banned for BF in Salon - Lowing Ensues (9 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299777,299777#msg-299777
Link:

http://au.news.yahoo.com/vic/latest/a/-/article/17250630/mum-banned-from-breast-feeding-at-hair-salon/

First off - WHY would you do that when you're getting your hair cut? Getting babby covered in hair, sprays, possible scissor impalement, etc. Secondly, how much do you want to bet Moo was a total bitch and THAT is why the salon banned her?]]> jezebel_daisy The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 00:14:20 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299771,299771#msg-299771 WHERE'S MY WINE????? (10 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299771,299771#msg-299771
I can't stand her. I got rid of her today. She's an insufferable military Moo and her posts make my hair fall out.

There is one obligatory post per day about how her and her husband are "Army Strong" and that they can get through anything.

There is one obligatory post per day about how she is "overwhelmed" taking care of "Two little ones" and "All of the animals!"

There is always a "shared post" from a religious site for married people with some kind of daily inspiration.

And always, there are multiple posts about how "harried" she is as a Mom, and she ends every post with WHERE'S MY WINE????

Today she's been posting about how she has to throw together a Princess themed birthday party for a 6 year old in 2 weeks. Really? You have 2 fucking weeks. The kid doesn't need a $10,000 party, and I am sure that she doesn't have 300 people coming. That's a reason for you to be "harried" and need a drink? Day in and day out, she complains about ordinary shit that kids do, and everything is WHERE'S MY WINE?

Here's some advice for this bitch:

You wanted to have kids, and you chose to marry a man in the Army. If life is so stressful that you are becoming an alcoholic, then you need to do something. Get a nanny, get an au pair, find a babysitter - do something. But for Christ sakes - GET OFF OF FACEBOOK. The less time that you spend posting will be more time for you to attend to your many difficult endeavors.

Asshat.]]> surgicalvetnurse The Living RoomMon, 20 May 2013 18:42:06 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299770,299770#msg-299770 BF "Debate" with "Little Girl" Turns Personal (17 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299770,299770#msg-299770
When will I ever learn to not get into "debates" with the mouth-breathers on Yahoo regarding birth control, abortion, breastfeeding, parenting, pregnancy & childbirth, or any other such related topic you can think of? Sometimes, someone says something so blindingly obnoxious that I cannot resist the urge to get into it.

Article in question was about a study that found that women had more of a gut response to a crying hungry baby than men.

Found a particularly "cute" comment from a user called "Little Girl". Made a statement of personal opinion, and apparently hit a soft spot with her - she became overly defensive, and combative to every comment I made in reply to her predictable insults. Do think she hit about 99% of every known bingo there is.

Here, for your viewing pleasure/aggravation, are the posts. (I am PhoenixRising.) Do y'all think I handled it well? Any suggestions for future imbecile run-ins?



Little Girl • 13 days ago

Dumb research. Woman are made with breasts to feed babies when they cry, and so women's
brains would probably react when they heard a hungry baby cry. Woman's hormones, especially
one who's given birth would rush to the brain and get a reaction.

PhoenixRising • 12 days ago

My breasts are for fun, entertainment, enjoyment, and allure, not to have some small being hanging
off of, thank you very much.

Little Girl • 12 days ago

You sound like you're a man trying to act like a woman and you sound dumb.

PhoenixRising • 12 days ago

You certainly are a "little girl". Sounds like you're playing mommy with the baby doll. Child-free
WOMAN, baby, and loving every dam minute of it. I didn't believe the hype.

Little Girl • 11 days ago

You're a hateful jerk. What are you, a #$%$?

PhoenixRising • 3 days ago

What am I? I'm a FREE woman, and you obviously are a brat-saddled breeder.

Little Girl • 2 days 16 hours ago

You actually sound like you're jealous that you couldn't have a baby and you're taking it out on
somebody who is a mother, and you accuse me of being a "little girl" playing with dollies. I think
you aren't loving every minute of not ever having children because you wouldn't be so hateful to
someone you don't even know. I think you're an immature little beotch who wants to pick fights
with a very nice person because you're lonely and don't have a life. My days of raising children
are over, but I wouldn't have traded it for the world. If it was really your choice not to have children
you would respect other people's choices to have them, and you wouldn't start #$%$ with someone
for just answering a simple question on a public forum, which shows what kind of a loser you are.

PhoenixRising • 1 day 7 hours ago

Hey, "little girl", how 'bout you don't make assumptions (we all know what that translates into) about
someone you don't know.

Yeah, I'm just SO jealous of all the women who have kids, that is the reason I had my tubes tied
20 years ago. Oh, my life has just been SO empty without the "miracle" of pregnancy and childbirth,
the "wonders" of breastfeeding (YUCK) diapers, "getting" to wake up all through the night to wailing
(who needs sleep anyway?) the "joys" of the terrible twos, the "challenges" of a tween then a teen.
Plus all of the priviledges of always playing second fiddle to someone all my life. Oh, and it must be
just so much fun to throw good money after bad on all this.

A "very nice person" wouldn't initiate all of this excrement by calling me a "dumb person" just for
expressing my personal opinion. Since I happen to feel that my breasts are primarily sexual and not
for a little one to hang off of, and that flies in the face of your mommy views, you felt the need to attack
first. I don't back down to an attack.

You didn't "just answer a simple question". I presented a view that you didn't like, and you made a
rude comment about it. Look back over the posts if you don't believe me. Here, I'll do it for you...

"My breasts are for fun, entertainment, enjoyment, and allure, not to have some small being hanging
off of, thank you very much."

"You sound like you're a man trying to act like a woman and you sound dumb."

Sound familiar?

I'm wondering why a supposedly grown woman whose "days of raising children are over" would
even want to brand themselves "little girl" anyway?

Little Girl • 17 hours ago

I want to know why it bothers you that I made that assumption, and I made that name up on the
spur of the moment because I'm short. Plain and simple. I am 5 feet tall and not likely to grow any
taller. You sound angry at all mothers when you make your reply to me that I can't help noticing
that you probably get people in your life who are constantly asking you why you don't want any
children and you get an attitude about it. I didn't like your first reply because it was very abrupt
and abrasive and I couldn't help picturing a man thinking that way about a woman, and not how
a woman really acts. Hey, sorry, but most woman I know want and have children, and I think your
view is weird. Pardon me, but I'm being honest. You've been honest, and I also get the assumption
of you being a prostitute. Sorry if that's my impression, but it takes all kinds I guess.

Little Girl • 16 hours ago

Can't help what I notice. You are angry at all mothers, probably your own mother. If it weren't for
her you wouldn't be here, so you should be ashamed of your nasty attitude. The world wouldn't be
going on if people didn't produce children, and it takes a real woman and not a prostitute like you to
just want your breasts for pleasure. Sorry, but that's my impression of you when you respond with
angry and abrupt answers that seem mean and an attack on me. Don't turn your nasty and mean
response on me and say that it was all my fault because it's not going to work. Your peed off because
your view is frankly weird and most of the word doesn't except it. Even gay people want to produce
and keep the world going, but your attitude is mean and nasty. Why would I want to throw good
money after bad you say? Because it made me happy to have children because its natural. Your
attitude isn't, and that's why you're angry. You have your choice and that's fine, but don't stand there
and say your weirdness to me and not expect me to say what my first impressions are, because I
get a lot of trolls who respond to me, and maybe you're one of these who just want to argue or make
dumb remarks when I was just expressing my view. And why would I want to call myself "Little Girl"
when I'm done raising my children? It's because it was all I could think of on the spur of the moment.
I'm short. I'm 5 foot tall and it's my husband's pet name for me.

Little Girl • 8 hours ago

Oh, and let me add to your attitude. Not only is it mean and demeaning to all mothers everywhere,
it says that you are selfish and can't handle being a mom and all you think about is money. Throwing
good money after bad? How about looking at the end result, like raising a productive child who goes
out into the world and does something wonderful for the community and mankind. All you can think
about is the negativity of motherhood and none of the positive. What did you do to contribute to
mankind but say negative and demeaning things about all mothers?

PhoenixRising • 1 hour 14 minutes ago

Wow! 3 comments! I must REALLY be getting your goat!

Oh, and I see that you've managed to hit upon basically all of the childed's cut-and-paste mantras.
How clever of you!

"You sound angry at all mothers."

I don't feel anger towards mothers. Pity maybe...

"You probably get people in your life who are constantly asking you why you don't want any
children and you get an attitude about it."

Yes, there are plenty breeders out there who think it's their job to "save" us child-free from
our woeful mistakes. We get tired of the self-righteousness.

"First reply because it was very abrupt and abrasive and I couldn't help picturing a man thinking
that way about a woman, and not how a woman really acts."

Plenty of women appreciate their sexual attributes and don't see them merely as mommy
accessories.

"Hey, sorry, but most woman I know want and have children, and I think your view is weird."

So I should follow the herd of sheep?

"I also get the assumption of you being a prostitute."

I suppose you would, because all of the breeders seem to think its a crime against humanity
for a woman to enjoy sex for sex's sake, and NOT to get knocked up.

"If it weren't for her you wouldn't be here."

And this is relevant to me because? If I were never born, I certainly wouldn't know about it.
Takes an egotistical person to think like you.

"The world wouldn't be going on if people didn't produce children."

The human race is in NO danger of dying out - quite the contrary.

"It takes a real woman and not a prostitute like you to just want your breasts for pleasure."

Oh. That "real women" (read breeders) only have sex to get knocked up, and how DARE one
just want to enjoy it.

"An attack on me."

You threw the first personal comment, Buttercup.

"Your view is frankly weird and most of the word doesn't except it."

Think you meant "accept" instead of "except". So, I should follow the herd of sheep?

"It says that you are selfish and can't handle being a mom."

I can handle anything, Babe. I just choose to not do things I deem a punishment when I
have the choice.

"Productive child who goes out into the world and does something wonderful for the
community and mankind."

Or becomes the next John Wayne Gacy. Just as likely.

You amuse me.



She certainly doesn't seem to be giving up any time soon, and I'm curious as to what her next
few posts are going to be - more of the same, over and over, ad nauseum? Sounds to me like
she's trying to convince her own self of what she's saying to me.

Sometimes, I cannot resist the drama!

:ts]]> redheadedharlot The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 14:22:17 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299721,299721#msg-299721 Pignancy Q&A (Or: Not For Me, Thanks!) :rolleyes2 (6 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299721,299721#msg-299721 popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomMon, 20 May 2013 16:05:56 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299718,299718#msg-299718 Parents parenting in France (10 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299718,299718#msg-299718http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suffer-the-children/201203/why-french-kids-dont-have-adhd.

ADHD is rare in France because French parents spank their kids with no controversy or discussion. Also French parents are the parents and are IN CONTROL. No means no with kiddies over there. Here we have car commercials with snottly telling the parents which vehicle to buy]]> cfdavep The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 12:28:06 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299710,299710#msg-299710 Pro-Liars and "Responsibility" (23 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299710,299710#msg-299710
Meaning that, since a woman had sex, she should be "responsible for her choices" and carry the loaf to term.
When I said that it was punishment this person told me I was being "childish" to think in term of punishment.

I have my own brand of thoughts on the subject, but I would also like imput from you guys :)]]> t. The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 01:27:16 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299657,299657#msg-299657 Uhhh is this a joke? (3 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299657,299657#msg-299657
http://www.topix.net/forum/news/sex/TGCMRL7L65BLJ8V6P/p9]]> surgicalvetnurse The Living RoomMon, 20 May 2013 09:31:52 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299641,299641#msg-299641 Pulitzer Prize-Winning Article About Parents Leaving Kids To Die In Hot Cars (23 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299641,299641#msg-299641Summer's coming. 'Tis the season.


Lyn Balfour is a piece of work. She "doesn't feel the need to forgive herself" because she didn't mean to kill her kid. And she's a prime example as to why artificial insemination and IVF and such need to face the same standards as adoption. If you want to claim you were so distracted that you forgot your fucking child in a hot car, leaving it to bake to death, you don't get to have another fucking kid. EVER. And she's willing to be a surrogate parent for the couple who had their adopted child die of hyperthermia because it was unlikely that they would get to adopt again. Of course they should not be allowed to adopt again; they went through all that trouble to adopt from Russia, only to kill the child via gross negligence. It caused a bit of an international incident because Russia threatened to close adoptions to Americans.

In what world should "honest mistakes" that result in somebody's death go unpunished? I get distracted by a phone call while driving and run through a crosswalk, killing a pedestrian, my "honest mistake" will get me a prison sentence and the revocation of my driving license. But somebody can leave their kid to die because a minor change in routine just throws them off so much and it's forgiven? Life is full of changes to your routine; it's not an excuse. Maybe society needs to demand that people are rigorously tested before having kids. Prospective parents are given a Baby Think It Over and have to treat it like a real baby. Then they go through test of fortitude to see if they can handle life as a parent, including having their daily routines changed and see if it causes them to forget the BTIO in the car. If they do, no child for them until they take parenting courses and retake the practical.

And the solution presented by the person keeping the hyperthermic death database is more car safety features. So everybody else should be forced to pay an extra grand or so on a car because a group of idiots killed their kids through forgetfulness? And it's not going to work; the article references the guy in Tennessee whose car's motion sensor went off three times and three times he went out to check, saw nothing, and remotely shut it off. The article has a few quotes from a guy who studies memory and talks about how if your mind thinks that your infant is in day care, alive and healthy, you don't think you need to double-check your backseat. So what are car safety features going to do?

People are all, "What about the children?!" for the most inane shit and want to see people punished for the littlest infractions against a child, but when it comes to parents killing their kids via "I forgot," then they're to be forgiven and given more chances.]]> paragon schnitzophonic The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 16:52:45 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299640,299640#msg-299640 15 year old murdered over an iPad :wtf (3 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299640,299640#msg-299640A 15 year old died over an iPad. Two guys saw the kid walking down the street...they jumped out of the car, grabbed the device (kid held on as tight as he could), dragged him for a bit, then got into the car and ran him over.

Quote
Some cop
"I think both the public and police department share the same sentiment that this was a senseless act of violence."

Really? I was under the impression that killing people over electronic devices was totally okay. :gun1

Quote
Duh of dead teen
"For him to lose his life over an iPad, it's just not fair," [name withheld] told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "Never in my life would I imagine that me buying my kid an iPad for his birthday would end up with him getting run over."

:kill

Quote
Cop from two comments above
"This is a nationwide phenomenon where thieves are targeting individuals who are carrying them."

Moral of the story: If you're going to carry an iPad, don't show it off to the entire world. Better yet, leave that shit at home! :dunce]]> popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomMon, 20 May 2013 14:48:23 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299627,299627#msg-299627 Breeders battle about loaves at the park (5 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299627,299627#msg-299627
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/05/17/leave_your_kid_at_the_park_day_is_a_rotten_idea_and_should_be_abolished.html?wpisrc=flyouts]]> aliceblue The Living RoomMon, 20 May 2013 12:47:50 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299625,299625#msg-299625 Another babby cake (Warning: Barftastic) :wtf :dindin (21 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,299625,299625#msg-299625 popcornculturejunkie The Living RoomTue, 21 May 2013 15:17:40 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299571,299571#msg-299571 Miley Cyrus: Achy-Breaky Hot Mess (10 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299571,299571#msg-299571really looks like ass these days.

Celebrities have no taste]]> popcornculturejunkie The PatioTue, 21 May 2013 16:49:46 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299523,299523#msg-299523 Moos invade queer website... (13 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299523,299523#msg-299523
There is one that I still like to visit, though, because it's remained somewhat interesting and it has a forum for queers in my area.

Someone who I believe is a troll, started the infamous "What percentage of women do you think is bisexual/bi-curious"? thread. That thread does downhill really fast and always gets locked.

This one was no exception. Actual queer women immediately started calling for it to be locked, but not before a handful of women, a few of them Moos, chimed in with some real delights:

"DISCLAIMER: I love men. I love peen. I love everything about peen. You could say that I worship peen. That being said, I had ONE experience for my husband before kids, and I REALLY didn't enjoy it. While I had the experience, I would consider myself 100% totally straight". (why are you on this website, asshole?)

"I think that there is nothing more sexual than a stiff prick and good, hard PIV sex. PIV sex is doubly amazing because you always have the option of creating new life! I think more women than not feel this way". (another one - why are you on this website?)

"I experimented in college, but I believe that you cannot compare a man's body to a woman's. A muscular men's body, with that smell? Mmmmmmm, amazing." (go smell your man and get off of this website)

I fucking hate when these bitches come out of the woodwork. First of all, if they are peen lovers and straight, why are they on a queer website? Second, why do they think that queer women want to read about their worship of peen and baby batter? The majority of women on this site are lesbian (no offense to bisexual or other queer identified women). I cannot tell you how many of these dumb cunts come out to say that realistic dildos will never compare to an actual cock, and they don't understand why women would want to use dildos, anyway when they can have the real thing, etc.

I am convinced that they are there to flirt with butches and then tell them how disgusting they are, and how men are superior.

And I don't know anyone who WORSHIPS genitals. Seriously. I like myself some cock, same way that I like myself some pussy (sorry if that's TMI). But for as much as I love sex, I don't fucking go around telling people that I worship someone's genitals. WTF?

I hate people.]]> surgicalvetnurse The PatioTue, 21 May 2013 10:25:10 -0400 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299520,299520#msg-299520 Bingo-ed For Not Liking A Popular Singer (29 replies)http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,299520,299520#msg-299520
Anyway, there was a topic about Mariah Carey. One of the posters said that she really didn't like Mariah Carey's music because of how she sang. Unsurprisingly, this poor poster got bingo-ed to death by the crazy fans saying stuff like "Are you crazy? She is the best singer of the world!", "Your just jealous because you aren't talent like she is," and other crap. The poster was still admant about not liking Carey's music, but the fans still bingo-ed her.

Another example is with Beyonce. A few years back when I was in high school, I was at one of those stupid prep rallies. Everything was okay until a Beyonce song came on. Girls around me stood up and started to dance! One of the stupid kids noticed that I wasn't dancing and asked me why I wasn't. Told her that I wasn't in a mood for dancing and I didn't like Beyonce's music. Another girl overheard me and said "Your just jealous that you're not as talent as she is!" Since I didn't want to argue, I decided to leave the gym. This was my last time watching another prep rally.

What really gets me is the fans not wanting to hear your side of the story. But then again, Mariah Carey and Beyonce have a lot of breeder and breeder-pleaser fans, so I'm not surprised.

Anyone has a similar experience they would want to share?]]> empresskitty The PatioTue, 21 May 2013 16:27:43 -0400