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<description>This board is dead now. It seems like everyone has migrated to Facebook. I found a few aggressively childfree groups. They would call kids cumpets and call breeders breeders. I enjoyed the groups. A few days ago, the group disappeared. I feel that I was booted and blocked from the group and the two groups had moderators in common. I think it is because I commented on a post that a breeder should not continue to breed if the first brat was an autard. Of course, I didn't use the world &quot;autard&quot;, but some butthurt member (who wasn't even a moderator) acted like I was being a Nazi and promoting eugenics. Oh well.</description><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451223#msg-451223</link><lastBuildDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 14:02:49 +0000</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451246#msg-451246</link><description><![CDATA[I always check in but am worried bratfree will someday suddenly disappear for good.]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfdavep</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2025 16:29:04 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451245#msg-451245</link><description><![CDATA[I still pop in to lurk every now & then. I stopped posting years ago due to other priorities & having other ideas for ways to promote childfreedom & relevant social reform outside of interacting with online communities that keep disappearing or are full of moralizing apologists who coddle breeders & their sexcrement. This was reinforced by the forum activity waning. There is only one old post I made years ago that I now mostly disagree with, due to learning more about the subject & my beliefs inevitably evolving accordingly, but its only tenuously relevant to childfreedom. I'm still no bullshit & more than happy to address the elephant in the room in regards to childfreedom, breeder shenanigans, & how society handles it.]]></description>
<dc:creator>retro lizard</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 21:39:18 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451244#msg-451244</link><description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>Cambion</strong><br/>
This is the first CF board I ever found, and it's the one that still remains out of all the ones I used to be a member of (Tanglewood, Positively Childfree, EZCF, Childfree LiveJournal). I wasn't fond of some of those other places because you can't call parents "breeders" or brats "crotch goblins" or any other more entertaining names. I never felt like I had to censor myself here and it's very liberating to not have to watch my language like I'm interacting with children.<br /><br />It's a shame things are a little slower here now than they used to be, but I think it's for a lot of reasons: childfreedom isn't as huge of a stigma as it was 10-20 years ago, more people are choosing not to breed and it's becoming more common, and lack of trolls for both the aforementioned reasons. Becoming more commonplace means there are also many more places for CFers to hang out, whereas this was one of the only places to go for a while, I think. Now there are loads of Facebook groups and r/childfree.<br /><br />I know many of our long-time members are still here, but we don't get too many new folks here who aren't trolls, which I know our lovely mods like thom weed out.<br /><br />I suppose if we wanted more traffic, sharing the site in other CF groups could bring in new people. But I know I'm always happy this site is here. I can be unapologetically childfree, whereas in real life, I am not too loud about it because I don't want to get grilled over my choices. I feel comfortable and safe here, and I've been here so damn long that I feel like you guys are my unofficial internet family.</div></blockquote><br />Yes, I am glad that I don't have to censor myself here. You can call it like you see it when it comes to calling breeders and brats what they really are.<br /><br />I am glad that childfreedom is becoming more popular and less stigmatized. I will try to share the page with other sensible people. The thing is, it is hard to find sensible people as most people are so breederific.]]></description>
<dc:creator>peace-n-quiet</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 03:12:12 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451243#msg-451243</link><description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>bell_flower</strong><br/>
I'm enjoying the "I regret having children" FB page and ironically, I've even given them a donation. I believe that page is performing a valuable service to humanity.<br /><br />I firmly believe that there is no "selling" of the CF lifestyle. It sells itself. There are some people who will have children no matter what. We can only hope they are prepared. (Most likely they are not.)<br /><br />Some genuinely like children, but statistics show that 50% are oopsies or careless birth control. And there is a set of people who are brainwashed and will believe it will be different for them, and their children will be angels and their relationship will be unaffected, despite most relationships getting worse. They are lost, but if that page causes one person to get a spine and not have a kid they really know they are not prepared to have, good on it.<br /><br />And the answer is, yes, this is the one place where we can tell the truth. I myself have a health condition that is genetic. This is the one place where I can say that I'm ecstatic that I did not have children (despite doctors telling me there was nothing wrong with me) because genetics are not as advanced as today. This is the only place where I can heap scorn on people who knowingly have this condition and then Breed, and go on FB and whine that their 14 year old child is in a wheelchair and is in pain all the time, and how pathetic it is that they are on the page asking for udder rubs "as a parent" when the real answer was as plain as day: Not passing something along like this isn't "eugenics," it's simply the moral choice and you are breath-takingly selfish to sentence another human to a pain filled life just so someone could call you "Mommy."<br /><br />I'm always thankful this page exists.</div></blockquote><br />Yes, you are right. I despise when breeders with genetic issues shit out kids and risk passing the defects on. Life is difficult enough...why make it worse for someone that you claim to "love"? If believing that makes me Hitler, then oh well.]]></description>
<dc:creator>peace-n-quiet</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 03:09:08 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451242#msg-451242</link><description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>cfuter</strong><br/>
Yes, this is the only wholly honest refuge for us. That is no doubt. I don't like that this board is dead,but the only positive about that is, that we might need it a bit less bcz we found our group so we found comfort and have less reason to seek out more refuge and/or CF is a bit more common and acceptable currently, so we accomplished what we needed in life, having more ppl know there is a choice. People more aware the trap moohood is for women at least. People were clueless about all the pitfalls and claimed they had 'no idea' how it would be. Now many women go into it w/ eyes open or they just say no.<br /><br />I am surprised how many popular soc media articles don't make it over here, when before we had to be careful of not posting the same articles. But the board is a bit sleepy, so sometime even I don't bother. Maybe we should all promise to make more of an effort.:thumb</div></blockquote><br />You're right. I will try to make more of an effort as well and try to invite sensible people here.]]></description>
<dc:creator>peace-n-quiet</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 03:05:34 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451241#msg-451241</link><description><![CDATA[double post...oops]]></description>
<dc:creator>peace-n-quiet</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2025 03:04:55 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451239#msg-451239</link><description><![CDATA[<blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>twocents</strong><br/>
we aren't dead yet.. some may not come around as often but we know we can say what we think...even if the majority of the numnuts can't accept it. although perhaps the thought of being kind might come into play.. I usualy aim for that.. if I am elsewhere..</div></blockquote><br />I don't post much but I read daily.]]></description>
<dc:creator>craftyzits</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 22:52:30 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451233#msg-451233</link><description><![CDATA[we aren't dead yet.. some may not come around as often but we know we can say what we think...even if the majority of the numnuts can't accept it. although perhaps the thought of being kind might come into play.. I usualy aim for that.. if I am elsewhere..]]></description>
<dc:creator>twocents</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2025 22:07:38 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451227#msg-451227</link><description><![CDATA[This is the first CF board I ever found, and it's the one that still remains out of all the ones I used to be a member of (Tanglewood, Positively Childfree, EZCF, Childfree LiveJournal). I wasn't fond of some of those other places because you can't call parents "breeders" or brats "crotch goblins" or any other more entertaining names. I never felt like I had to censor myself here and it's very liberating to not have to watch my language like I'm interacting with children.<br /><br />It's a shame things are a little slower here now than they used to be, but I think it's for a lot of reasons: childfreedom isn't as huge of a stigma as it was 10-20 years ago, more people are choosing not to breed and it's becoming more common, and lack of trolls for both the aforementioned reasons. Becoming more commonplace means there are also many more places for CFers to hang out, whereas this was one of the only places to go for a while, I think. Now there are loads of Facebook groups and r/childfree.<br /><br />I know many of our long-time members are still here, but we don't get too many new folks here who aren't trolls, which I know our lovely mods like thom weed out.<br /><br />I suppose if we wanted more traffic, sharing the site in other CF groups could bring in new people. But I know I'm always happy this site is here. I can be unapologetically childfree, whereas in real life, I am not too loud about it because I don't want to get grilled over my choices. I feel comfortable and safe here, and I've been here so damn long that I feel like you guys are my unofficial internet family.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Cambion</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2025 08:23:31 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451225#msg-451225</link><description><![CDATA[I'm enjoying the "I regret having children" FB page and ironically, I've even given them a donation. I believe that page is performing a valuable service to humanity.<br /><br />I firmly believe that there is no "selling" of the CF lifestyle. It sells itself. There are some people who will have children no matter what. We can only hope they are prepared. (Most likely they are not.)<br /><br />Some genuinely like children, but statistics show that 50% are oopsies or careless birth control. And there is a set of people who are brainwashed and will believe it will be different for them, and their children will be angels and their relationship will be unaffected, despite most relationships getting worse. They are lost, but if that page causes one person to get a spine and not have a kid they really know they are not prepared to have, good on it.<br /><br />And the answer is, yes, this is the one place where we can tell the truth. I myself have a health condition that is genetic. This is the one place where I can say that I'm ecstatic that I did not have children (despite doctors telling me there was nothing wrong with me) because genetics are not as advanced as today. This is the only place where I can heap scorn on people who knowingly have this condition and then Breed, and go on FB and whine that their 14 year old child is in a wheelchair and is in pain all the time, and how pathetic it is that they are on the page asking for udder rubs "as a parent" when the real answer was as plain as day: Not passing something along like this isn't "eugenics," it's simply the moral choice and you are breath-takingly selfish to sentence another human to a pain filled life just so someone could call you "Mommy."<br /><br />I'm always thankful this page exists.]]></description>
<dc:creator>bell_flower</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2025 00:41:18 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451224#msg-451224</link><description><![CDATA[Yes, this is the only wholly honest refuge for us. That is no doubt. I don't like that this board is dead,but the only positive about that is, that we might need it a bit less bcz we found our group so we found comfort and have less reason to seek out more refuge and/or CF is a bit more common and acceptable currently, so we accomplished what we needed in life, having more ppl know there is a choice. People more aware the trap moohood is for women at least. People were clueless about all the pitfalls and claimed they had 'no idea' how it would be. Now many women go into it w/ eyes open or they just say no.<br /><br />I am surprised how many popular soc media articles don't make it over here, when before we had to be careful of not posting the same articles. But the board is a bit sleepy, so sometime even I don't bother. Maybe we should all promise to make more of an effort.:thumb]]></description>
<dc:creator>cfuter</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2025 16:31:21 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Is This Place The Only Place We Can Be Honest!?:freak</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,451223,451223#msg-451223</link><description><![CDATA[This board is dead now. It seems like everyone has migrated to Facebook. I found a few aggressively childfree groups. They would call kids cumpets and call breeders breeders. I enjoyed the groups. A few days ago, the group disappeared. I feel that I was booted and blocked from the group and the two groups had moderators in common. I think it is because I commented on a post that a breeder should not continue to breed if the first brat was an autard. Of course, I didn't use the world "autard", but some butthurt member (who wasn't even a moderator) acted like I was being a Nazi and promoting eugenics. Oh well.]]></description>
<dc:creator>peace-n-quiet</dc:creator>
<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2025 03:10:13 +0000</pubDate></item>
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