The "nice guy" argument I cannot understand or agree with most of the stuff that this "nice guy" says, so I suppose that I am one of the complete jerks out there, according to this article. [url] http://thoughtcatalog.com/leo-steven/2014/04/dear-girls-who-are-finally-ready-to-date-nice-guys-we-dont-want-you-anymore/ [/url] After reading this stuff, it left me wondering, what kind of disturbing life does this writer live and what kind of standards does he live by? I guess l live in my own world and my views are very different. I am a guy and I am really shocked that there are men who think like this guy in the article. [quote=Thought Catalog] [i]You had your chance on our first (and only) date. I held the door open for you and bought you dinner at that 5-star restaurant you so slyly worked into the conversation. You looked amazing and I went all out to impress you. You walked through the door I held open for you without a thank you or really any acknowledgement of my little gesture.[/i] [/quote] Holy crap! Really? Are you kidding me? Someone pinch me, this has got to be some kind of joke. Ok, she "had her chance"? What? With you? Really? How do you know? Relationships are 2 way streets. If she was not interested, there were no "chances". Dude, did she specifically say that she wanted to go to a five star place? Did she say she will not go unless you take her to the most expensive place out there? You did not actually fall for it, did you? If you do not know her very well, why are you taking her there? Are you that much of a sucker? You held the door open and she did not praise you for it? I know women who weigh all of 90 pounds, wear high heels and are not in a shape to push open some of the very heavy spring loaded doors. I do not expect anything in return for opening a heavy door for a woman who is half my weight. [quote=Thought Catalog] [i] I asked you about your hopes and dreams and listened to you bitch about your ex-boyfriend as you ordered that $100 bone-in ribeye and the wine with the fancy vintage you just had to try.[/i] [/quote] Why do you give a shit what she bitches about? Her ex is her problem. When you take someone out, that is the chance that you take - sometimes they turn out to be a complete train wreck. If she is not what you are looking for, move along. $100 dinner? So what. You went to a 5 star restaurant. What did you expect? For her to sit there and drink water? Dude, are you alright? If you take someone to an expensive place, it costs money. If you do not like it, do not take her there. Pick a less expensive place instead. [quote= Though Catalog] [i] I was wonderful to you, I was a gentleman. I treated you with respect, like a lady deserves to be treated. I enjoyed your company and you had my full attention. I didn’t expect anything in return except a chance to win your heart.[/i] [/quote] Who are you fooling? Yourself? Maybe, because you are not fooling me. You WERE trying to score and it did not work. Why is this such a tragedy? Ever tried to find someone else? Look, if you want a lap dance in return for some money, strip joints are everywhere. Want to get more? You keep bragging that you got all this money, maybe pay a visit to a cat house in Nevada or something. By the way, can I ask, when was the last time you got laid? Why are you so sensitive? If she is so cruel as you say she is, why are you being so soft? [quote= Thought Catalog] [i]I’m the man of your dreams, but you couldn’t see that.[/i] [/quote] Buddy, she is over you. Maybe has never been into you. What are you talking about? [quote= Thought Catalog] [i]I’m stable, I’m a good provider[/i] [/quote] You are not mentally stable, you let small stuff upset you. Have you tried counseling? Many women are not looking for a "provider". What century and country do you live in? In USA, many good quality women are making their own income. More women go to college than men and more women than ever hold high paying jobs. Dude, why are you chasing bottom of the barrel women? What is the matter with you? [quote= Thought Catalog] [i] But now you’re ready to date me? Really? You’ll excuse me if I’m not jumping for joy. You’ve dissed me, rejected me, took advantage of me, dodged my goodnight kiss and couldn’t wait to get away from me. Now suddenly you want me? Sorry, I’m not buying it. [/i] [/quote] Who is exactly ready to date you when you are getting butthurt over some chick who did not want to date you? Like seriously? If there is a woman who is ready to date, I am not sure it will work out. If you cannot accept the fact that things can go south at times, you may not be able to handle a relationship at the moment. Try getting some counseling, seriously. [quote= Thought Catalog] [i]...I want marriage and kids in my future... ...I get it though, now that you’re on the downside of 30, the wrinkles are starting, the body is sagging and you have stretch marks and that c-section scar from pushing out that bad boy’s rugrat...[/i] [/quote] Sometimes it is a bad boy rug rat, sometimes it is a fool like you who got "lucky" and knocked her up. In either case, there is a sucker out there for every occasion. Some fool will yet again hook up with her. Look, if she is not what you looking for, move along. There is more fish in the sea. You have mentioned that you yourself wanted to have kids. You would be the reason why women have stretch marks. So, you want to knock someone up and bitch about stretch marks too? Buddy, do you see where you are heading? You are building your own road to a city of huge disappointment. [quote= Thought Catalog] [i]In your twenties you barely gave me the time of day. Meanwhile you were jumping in bed with any guy with a neck tattoo or a prison record. [/i] [/quote] Not all tattoos mean prison record. Many people just have tattoos as a form of art. Some people serve prison time for weed or something else stupid. There are many variables. If she was jumping in bed with all these broke dick "bad boys", why are you taking her to very expensive places? Why are you "casting the pearls at the swine"? Look, if this woman is so bad for chasing low life men, you are just as bad for chasing low life women. Look in the mirror, you are doing the same thing that she is doing. If you start having some standards and some values, maybe you will stop chasing women who do not value you and start meeting people who are at your level.http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,355979#msg-355979Thu, 16 Jul 2026 20:57:48 +0000 Phorum 5.2.20 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,378188#msg-378188 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,378188#msg-378188
A slut fucks everyone, a bitch fucks everyone but you.]]> navi8orgirl The PatioMon, 26 Jan 2015 14:24:52 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,377999#msg-377999 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,377999#msg-377999
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I attack women because I grew up to believe them as a more weaker part of the human breed.

And since he attacked women aged 20, 45 and 67, it's pretty clear that he hates all women, not just those who he expects to provide him with attention (unless he's expecting older women to fawn over teenage boys).

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Thank god he's not my kid and people wondered why I don't want kids.

Not your kid, but in his twisted world view, you have a vagina and you're part of the village, so you owe it to him to service him. Gee, I wonder where he learned that entitlement.]]> yurble The PatioThu, 22 Jan 2015 08:17:34 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,377995#msg-377995 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,377995#msg-377995Elliot Rodger clone/'nice guy' attempted to murder three women just because he was unable to 'loose' his virgininty at seventeen.

He also says he's not a 'bad child' yet he thinks he's entitled for sex from women and sees them as 'sluts'. :rolleyes2

Thank god he's not my kid and people wondered why I don't want kids.]]> orangeflower84 The PatioThu, 22 Jan 2015 04:57:48 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,360190#msg-360190 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,360190#msg-360190
My experience is that guys who go on and on about how they're such a "nice guy" are anything but in reality. Real nice guys don't need to convince people of it. And furthermore, they usually don't have so many problems getting a date.

Most of these self-professed "nice guys" give off a creepy, controlling, unstable vibe. That's what sends women running in the opposite direction after the first date.

I also love how he decides he'd gonna take her to a ridiculously expensive restaurant and then blames her for it.

I'd also bet a million dollars the woman he's writing this to doesn't really exist (or at least he doesn't know what became of her). It's probably just a revenge fantasy in his head. Come to think of it, I doubt someone this unstable has ever been able to hold a good enough job to afford a date like that to begin with. I call bullshit on the whole thing, to be frank.

And in all honesty, I doubt he looks so great at this point. Bitterness will leave some serious marks on your face as you get older, not to mention all the typical stuff -- graying, balding, his own set of baby wrinkles, etc. He's probably the kind of dysfunctional freak who lives in mommy's basement slowly letting his ass expand.

The gall of a toad like this to want a woman to breed for him and then complain about what it does to their looks. Hell, the gall of complaining how ANYONE looks, given how ugly his personality is.

Not that 30 is by any means "over the hill." I still feel like I'm on the incline at 25, and we have some very good-looking people here who are long past 30. But then again, I'm not a hateful little freak, and also not a breeder.]]> Anonymous User The PatioThu, 12 Jun 2014 09:49:09 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,359691#msg-359691 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,359691#msg-359691
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Those same 'nice guys' that bitch about why no 'hot beautiful' girls to date them yet they will not date the ugly plain jane girls.
Look at Elliot Rodgers for example. He prefers to date girls who are blonde, skinny, big boobs, hot ass, blue eyes, tanned, supermodel body, and wants them to be dumb as rocks. If other girls tried to go out with him who don't fit his ideal women, he would reject them on the spot. If your an ugly, nerdy, chubby, skin and bones, freckles or smart, independent, non religous, or even childfree girl, they won't date you yet they whined why no girls won't go out with them.

Or even if they do date them, they would verbally abuse them to 'fix' themselves up such as pressuring them to go from A cup size to a DD size or change your hair color. They would get angry at you if you have male friends and accuse you of 'cheating' on them or calling you a 'slut'. But it's perfectly fine for those guys that sleeps around the girls or make friends with them but their girlfriend? Nope, not allowed.

In other words, those 'nice guys' are the biggest hypocrite assholes on the planet.

Well spoken! Seems that most of the self-proclaimed "Nice guys" I know fall right into this category!]]> artchick62 The PatioFri, 06 Jun 2014 00:19:31 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,359598#msg-359598 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,359598#msg-359598Look at Elliot Rodgers for example. He prefers to date girls who are blonde, skinny, big boobs, hot ass, blue eyes, tanned, supermodel body, and wants them to be dumb as rocks. If other girls tried to go out with him who don't fit his ideal women, he would reject them on the spot. If your an ugly, nerdy, chubby, skin and bones, freckles or smart, independent, non religous, or even childfree girl, they won't date you yet they whined why no girls won't go out with them.

Or even if they do date them, they would verbally abuse them to 'fix' themselves up such as pressuring them to go from A cup size to a DD size or change your hair color. They would get angry at you if you have male friends and accuse you of 'cheating' on them or calling you a 'slut'. But it's perfectly fine for those guys that sleeps around the girls or make friends with them but their girlfriend? Nope, not allowed.

In other words, those 'nice guys' are the biggest hypocrite assholes on the planet.]]> orangeflower84 The PatioThu, 05 Jun 2014 01:50:51 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358663#msg-358663 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358663#msg-358663 evilchildlessbitch The PatioMon, 26 May 2014 03:07:03 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358625#msg-358625 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358625#msg-358625
I was reading the comments on Info wars on this story - GAWD. Plenty of Feminazi blame. As well as guns, guns and more guns (in case you can't guess - they're PRO gun. VERY PRO GUN).

And then of course - it's all the fault of The Jews. Which control the media and invented Feminism. :crz
If Jews run the world why is Israel crappy? You'd think they'd fix it up like Dubai with all that money and power :rolleyes2

This guy had racial self hate, also. He looks more Near East than Far East to me. Which includes plenty of good looking and desirable men. Idols, even. George Michael. Freddy Mercury. Omar Sharif. He kind of looks like George Michael. Should've just bleached his hair.

How crazy was this guy? He could've gotten plenty of women. Or guys.

He also reminds me of Luka Magnotta. What a sad missed connection this is! They could've cannibalized each other.

Interesting blurb I read elsewhere - will have to paraphrase - there are ideas, and some few psych studies, that the 'echo chamber' of some of these forums does have serious effects on people.]]> Zzelda The PatioSun, 25 May 2014 23:51:04 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358590#msg-358590 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358590#msg-358590
The guys who call themselves "nice guys" are lost and confused. Instead of hating men who can get dates with no effort, these guys need to befriend such men. Men who are playas are not only willing to share their tricks, they rather volunteer them freely. If this dude went and hung out with a few playas, not only would he learn how it is done, he would learn how to be happier and not be such a loner.

There are comments on various blogs that nobody was willing to help the guy. Here is what I have noticed. "Nice guys", who cannot get dates, they refuse help if offered. I have seen a few posters, even on this site, I will not name them, who kept making remarks about how they cannot get a date no matter what. When I attempted to contact them and offered to teach them a few "tricks", they are too scared to take any advice or even respond to address their issues. Well, those who do not want help, cannot get help.]]> Techie The PatioSun, 25 May 2014 18:24:17 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358586#msg-358586 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,358586#msg-358586
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638049/7-dead-drive-shooting-near-UC-Santa-Barbara.html

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The gunman who went on a drive-by shooting rampage in a student enclave that left seven people dead had posted a chilling video warning of 'retribution' because he was still a virgin aged 22.
Elliot Rodger, who was driving a black BMW, is believed to have acted alone in the shootings at about 9:30pm on Friday night in Isla Vista near the University of California, Santa Barbara.
Now, authorities are examining a video posted on social media by the shooter - called 'Elliot Rodger's Retribution' - in which he rants about women who supposedly rejected his advances.
The Santa Barbara City College student unleashes a tirade about his 'loneliness, rejection and unfulfilled desires', blaming women for preferring 'obnoxious brutes' to him, 'the supreme gentleman'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2638049/7-dead-drive-shooting-near-UC-Santa-Barbara.html#ixzz32kYe4M8A
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For those of you who have strong stomachs, please check out Elliot Roger's Google+ page:

https://plus.google.com/112420115103149734170/posts]]> Techie The PatioSun, 25 May 2014 17:40:01 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,357043#msg-357043 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,357043#msg-357043
OK up thread I said my exH had a friend who was 'one of these guys'?

On your third pic there - the D'OH! guy focused on in that one - the guy I was talking about here / exH's 'good friend from child hood' - Looks exactly like this guy.

:eyebrows]]> Zzelda The PatioTue, 06 May 2014 00:14:46 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,357041#msg-357041 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,357041#msg-357041
That blonde woman in the picture, if I was a "nice guy", I am pretty sure I would not want her touching anything, them teeth of hers, they look like they may hurt. LOL]]> Techie The PatioMon, 05 May 2014 23:53:37 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,357037#msg-357037 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,357037#msg-357037
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Now my biggest issue is deciding which color Audi I’m going to buy.

I think mr "nice guy" has his priorities backwards. Our friend cannot drop a few hundred bucks on a few dates and he wants to buy an Audi? I suspect our friend is a little more broke than he would like to admit.

A little off-topic, but the biggest loser I ever dated owned a brand new Audi. This was almost 15 years ago. He still lived with Mommy "to save on rent" but thought he was hot shit because of his car.

ETA: "Friendzone" seems to be the new "cockblock" (not quite the same meaning, but now common in terms of frequency of usage)]]> Ketchup The PatioSat, 03 May 2014 19:04:21 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356855#msg-356855 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356855#msg-356855
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Quote: Some fucked up people spouting weird shit about how women need to be protected/ nurturing/ told what their place is/ (insert patronizing, puritanical gender role here), and how "that damned feminist movement is ruining everything."

I know a guy like this... He also wants women to be tied to the kitchen, serving his needs for the rest of his life, while he gets to do whatever he wants.

He refers to strong, independent women as alpha males. That's right, ladies, we're all alpha males, according to this 'nice guy'. He's a real jackass IMO.

A friend (sort of) of mine is dating someone similar. He constantly throws around quasi-lovey-dovey crap about "protecting his lady" and claims that stereotypical gender roles are based on science rather than societal needs from thousands of years ago, while wrapping the bullshit into a prettier "we complete each other, so it's all good" package. Also, women who dress in revealing clothes are asking for it, of course.]]> awesominatrix The PatioSat, 03 May 2014 08:53:12 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356701#msg-356701 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356701#msg-356701
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Though I did go out on two dates with a wealthy attorney who refused to pay for my drink and ordered water so he could justify not paying for my martini--because apparently he thought my profile pic was a lie, I looked like Gisele IRL...and was disappointed when I looked just like my profile pic.

Sometimes smartest people lack the most common sense. People rarely look the same as their picture does. Most modern cameras only photograph in 2D. That looks different from how people look in person. It may look like them, but it almost always looks different. Our eyes see in 3D, we see more angles. I personally think a good quality portrait painting can do a much better job than a simple photo camera. There is another proof to that. Have someone draw a nice portrait from an ordinary photo - results often end up where the person looks very little like they do IRL.

It is also a common knowledge that some people who look very good in photos may not look as good in person. I have also met people who look like a 9 or a 10 in person but in pictures there are a few notches lost. Camera cannot catch all angles that our eyes can. Again, some of the most intelligent people out there often miss the simplest of the things.]]> Techie The PatioThu, 01 May 2014 19:46:35 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356674#msg-356674 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356674#msg-356674Oh, and he was always the victim. Poor, put upon him was not to blame for anything. Nope, it was always someone else’s fault. He even got pissy at another friend of ours when she told him he should learn some independence. And let’s not forget his constant whining about how women didn’t respect him, even though he made it pretty clear he only wanted the young hot twentysomethings with big tits.
I lost touch with him. Last I heard he’d met some girl over the Internet and like two months after they met he moved her into his dad’s house. He claimed they had a perfectly perfect relationship and they never fought. Yeah right.
Don’t know what became of him. I hope to Jeebus his girlfriend didn’t sprog, seeing as he’d been in jail for molesting one of his foster siblings as a teen.]]> efsb The PatioThu, 01 May 2014 15:36:29 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356658#msg-356658 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356658#msg-356658
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Now my biggest issue is deciding which color Audi I’m going to buy.

I think mr "nice guy" has his priorities backwards. Our friend cannot drop a few hundred bucks on a few dates and he wants to buy an Audi? I suspect our friend is a little more broke than he would like to admit.

Probably only leasing. Too desperate to use money as fishing bait...especially since he is a cheapskate.

(though I did go out on two dates with a wealthy attorney who refused to pay for my drink and ordered water so he could justify not paying for my martini--because apparently he thought my profile pic was a lie, I looked like Gisele IRL...and was disappointed when I looked just like my profile pic.)]]> navi8orgirl The PatioThu, 01 May 2014 12:51:15 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356617#msg-356617 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356617#msg-356617
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Now my biggest issue is deciding which color Audi I’m going to buy.

I think mr "nice guy" has his priorities backwards. Our friend cannot drop a few hundred bucks on a few dates and he wants to buy an Audi? I suspect our friend is a little more broke than he would like to admit.]]> Techie The PatioThu, 01 May 2014 02:56:59 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356579#msg-356579 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356579#msg-356579
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They complain about friend-zoning yet they pretend to be a friend. :bawl

Many in the "friend-zone" are an embarrassment to us, guys, in general. Many of these "friend-zoners" are "zoning" for "left overs", they are looking for a rebound moment to jump into. Screw that, no guy, who has his stuff together is going to wait in line for anybody.

For those guys who feel that they cannot "score", I have a suggestion: take a look at yourself - are you working the hardest that you can at what you do for living and are you getting proper reward for your efforts? Dating is much like employment - you have to be able to bring something to the table other than a victim attitude. How about a "nice guy" starts making some solid and consistent 6 digits? How about a "nice guy" starts making sound investments and has a few portfolios that are worth 7 digits each and bring 5 digit annual incomes from dividends? I guarantee "nice guy" would have had gathered his stuff together to have accomplished that - he will have zero problems getting dates. Because when one builds wealth from rags, they accept losses, failures and they learn how to take punches. Most of all, they don't let petty shit stop them from accomplishing their goals. To say that one woman is going to determine some guys dating future is simply ridiculous.]]> Techie The PatioWed, 30 Apr 2014 15:41:06 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356577#msg-356577 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356577#msg-356577 blondie The PatioWed, 30 Apr 2014 14:45:16 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356572#msg-356572 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356572#msg-356572
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Techie, the uberrich guy is not writing/whining about how women don't come near him or friendzone him. He is beating beautiful women off with a stick.

I think it would be a very safe thing to say that our "nice guy" friend here is anything but rich. Nobody even with a half way decent income would be whining about $100 dinner - seriously. And all that non-sense about her taking the steak to her boyfriend - really? He makes it sound like she is homeless and he is working the soup kitchen - I don't buy it.

And the "nice guy" whining about the "friend zone"? What? It takes 2 people to be friends - I am not friends with anybody I do not want to be friends with, therefore, the other person cannot be friends with me if there is no reciprocation from me. What in the world is this dude talking about? I am a dude and I don't understand ANY of this "nice guy" logic. If this guy wants be get laid and she says no, he does not need to be her "friend". Why would he want to be friends with someone that he is supposedly mad at? There is no logic in any of this.]]> Techie The PatioWed, 30 Apr 2014 13:44:31 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356555#msg-356555 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356555#msg-356555
Bad date thread would be much fun. Most of us, male and female, probably have enough to write a set of Brittanicas.

It bears repeating: Nice is not a character trait. It is a social engineering tactic. And you don't need to be an engineer to spot that trainwreck coming.]]> navi8orgirl The PatioWed, 30 Apr 2014 12:37:19 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356534#msg-356534 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356534#msg-356534
Maybe we should start a "bad date thread?" I'm not bitter but they are funny as hell.]]> evilchildlessbitch The PatioWed, 30 Apr 2014 05:15:30 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356493#msg-356493 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356493#msg-356493 brown-eyed diamond The PatioTue, 29 Apr 2014 20:57:17 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356492#msg-356492 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356492#msg-356492 JoJo The PatioTue, 29 Apr 2014 20:48:58 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356489#msg-356489 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356489#msg-356489
This has happened to me a number of times, even with a couple of good male friends. Eventually they get mad and ask if I think I'm perfect, and why am I so....."independent"? Ta daaaa, there it is. Thing is, I like having support from people, and input, but that is not enough. You have to break down and be ignorant, or weak or broken in a way they can Fix it for you. They want to find a problem where there isn't one.? That IS NOT nice.]]> blondie The PatioTue, 29 Apr 2014 19:54:08 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356451#msg-356451 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356451#msg-356451
And these places look awesome though neither is near me. Ground Control would be a perfect first date--drink and a snack. If the date is meh, you have an out. If it is good, grab dinner and hang.]]> navi8orgirl The PatioTue, 29 Apr 2014 11:41:23 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356428#msg-356428 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356428#msg-356428
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I don't know ANY man who spends that kind of coin on a first date.

Some loaded professional sports team owner might, but he also won't miss any of it, either. Chances are, he won't write an article about it.

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Crapplebees, a bar for a couple of beers, Starbucks for a couple of coffees. More if the date goes well, easy to bail if there is nothing there.

I think you can do all of the above at a place like this: Coffee, wine and beer Just talkin' from experience :D

And for some good coffee, they brew it good over here.]]> Techie The PatioTue, 29 Apr 2014 03:34:54 +0000 http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356406#msg-356406 Re: The "nice guy" argumenthttp://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?7,355979,356406#msg-356406 law The PatioMon, 28 Apr 2014 23:35:31 +0000