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<title>Maryland Teachers now expected to potty train since parents arent doing it:embarassed (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452205,452205#msg-452205</link><description><![CDATA[https://wtop.com/anne-arundel-county/2026/05/teachers-take-on-potty-training-at-anne-arundel-schools/<br /><br />I guess they want to be 'inclusive' and dont want to penalize students since their parents suck.<br /><br /><br />WHY arent todays parents nationwide not potty training? dont they want to make things easier for themselves? Or they like changing a HUGE poopy diaper of a five year old?<br /><br />Parenting literally is getting more ridiculously lame than ever. Why have kids if you do nothing to guide, lead, teach them? Imagine being a teacher and having to potty train a quarter of your class on school time? This is truly insanity.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 20:13:24 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>The 2X'ers and CF women (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452200,452200#msg-452200</link><description><![CDATA[Today over on 2x the discussion was on boobfeeding in public and how it should be considered wonderful and normal as in "I am moo hear me roar and watch me run this co-oporation while I give birth and boobfeed in the boardroom" The word used was "progressive" Someone brought up how the CF tend to view public boobfeeding as a negative thing and that those CF people need to get on board and team up with women on this issue and those who are not on board are "bad representatives" of the "cf community"<br />I do notice when a CF woman gets on there with a complaint about not being taken seriously when they seek sterilization or needing a hysterectomy for medical reasons, there are a lot of crickets chirping. It is usually other cf women who come out and support them, crossovers from reddit/cf probably. Yet when the feminsist moos are not feeling the divine empowerment from not being honored by society for boobfeeding in an airport waitingroom then we all need to work to change that as they ignore us. Ugh]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 16:34:54 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Moo's stroller at Dunkin (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452199,452199#msg-452199</link><description><![CDATA[A moo just came in w/ a stroller the size of a golf cart in width length and height. Its like a toy bus for the kids, and one kid was big enough to walk itself around and run off some energy. If aliens came down from the sky, they'd be like who are these kings and queens that the peasants are pushing around, so their feet dont touch the ground. Geez make coffee at home and let the kids run around in the yard. I can only imagine how much this thing costs. Probably a grand.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 16:22:32 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Hilarious post on dogfree (no replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452198,452198#msg-452198</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/Dogfree/comments/1t9hysx/i_dated_a_dog_owner_and_this_is_what_i_found/?cache-bust=1778602142793<br /><br />It reads exactly like dating a single parent]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2026 16:15:31 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Happy Day all!!!!:)-D (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452192,452192#msg-452192</link><description><![CDATA[We all have a reason to celebrate, friends, so do it well and enjoy!<br /><br /><br /><br />:urock:smileface<br /><br /><br />My MIL's traveling today so I dont even have to waste time w/ that BS, thank goodness. Beautiful day too.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 02:22:39 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Happy Mothers Day, are you a mom?(:D (no replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452190,452190#msg-452190</link><description><![CDATA[I told 2 different employees today at stores I was patronizing, No, not a mom, every day's happy for me. They actually took it pretty well. One said, i can tell! lol]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2026 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Not a Seth Rogan fan but gotta like what he says about a childed life (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452185,452185#msg-452185</link><description><![CDATA[Seth Rogen explains why he doesn’t want children, saying **it seems like a dark, stressful life with small moments of joy**, adding how much he enjoys life without them - “You don’t need kids...The world won’t even be here in 30 years.”<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/1t56z8c/seth_rogen_explains_why_he_doesnt_want_children/<br /><br />----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I really like that he uses the term "dark".]]></description>
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<title>Kids and no consequences (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452181,452181#msg-452181</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1t5dy3j/my_brothers_son_destroyed_my_warhammer_action/<br /><br />10 year old destroyed his uncle's stuff and duh told brother to buy a new set on amazon, then return the brokenn stuff and tell them it came like that all to avoid the kid facing consequences]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2026 07:27:04 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Infants dying because parents are refusing vitamin K shots at birth (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452178,452178#msg-452178</link><description><![CDATA[Apparently it's not just vaccines that are government poison. Now, simple life-saving vitamin shots are being lumped in with "dangerous" vaccines and parents are refusing these too. I think the rate of parents refusing the vitamin K shots has doubled in the last few years.<br /><br />How is this not child neglect? Why are these parents not being charged with manslaughter when their kids' deaths are proven to be caused by vitamin K deficiency? Apparently some idjits think vitamin K shots cause leukemia or are full of "toxins" and that's why they are opting out. Because as we all know, dying from a brain bleed is SO much better than being exposed to an evil VITAMIN. I feel like these assholes should not be allowed to be sad over their children's deaths when they are directly responsible for them. It's like kicking your dog in the ribs and then crying to everyone about how someone kicked your dog.<br /><br />So I wonder who they try to sue when it's their own negligence that kills their kids. Do they try to sue the hospital anyway? I can't imagine that going over well in court.<br /><br /><u>https://www.propublica.org/article/more-parents-decline-vitamin-k-shot-newborns</u><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>They entered the world the way babies should, with piercing cries announcing their arrival. They passed their newborn screening tests. Some made it to their 2-week wellness visits without concern.<br /><br />Then, without warning, their systems began to shut down. A 7-week-old boy in Maryland developed sudden seizures. An 11-pound girl in Alabama stopped breathing for 20 seconds at a time. A baby boy in Kentucky vomited before becoming lethargic. A brown-haired girl in Texas, not yet 2 weeks old, bled around her belly button.<br /><br />Desperate to save them, records show, doctors inserted tubes into their airways and hooked them up to IVs. They ordered blood transfusions. They spent half an hour trying to resuscitate one boy until his parents told them they could stop. They shaved another boy’s soft locks to embed a needle directly into his skull to reduce the pressure in his brain.<br /><br />None of it was enough.<br /><br />At the morgue, the babies were brought in with their diapers and blankets and with their hospital ID bracelets still wrapped around their tiny ankles. The pathologists’ findings were like those you would typically see in ailing adults, not newborns — the kind of bleeding seen during strokes or brain tissue loss similar to what happens when radiation is administered to treat cancer.<br /><br />Their autopsies, which took place over the last several years, all came to the same conclusion: The deaths were caused, in whole or in part, by a rare but potentially fatal condition known as vitamin K deficiency bleeding.<br /><br /><b>In almost every case, the babies’ deaths could have been prevented with a long-standard vitamin K shot.</b> But across the country, families — first in smatterings, now in droves — are declining the single, inexpensive injection given at birth to newborns to help their blood clot.<br /><br />Many of them are doing so out of a well-meaning but ill-informed abundance of caution. In the hopes of safeguarding their newborns from what they see as unnecessary medical intervention, they have shunned fundamental and scientifically sound pharmaceutical intervention. The trend is also fueled by a contradictory pairing: families’ fierce desire to protect their babies and a cascade of false information infused into their social media algorithms.<br /><br />Although it is not a vaccine, the vitamin K shot has been swept up in the same post-pandemic tide that has led to a drop in key childhood vaccines, including for measles and whooping cough.<br /><br />The vitamin K shot is one of the three main interventions, along with the hepatitis B vaccine and an antibiotic ointment in the eyes, that newborns typically receive before leaving the hospital. Leading American institutions and the World Health Organization recommend that newborns get the shot.<br /><br />In December, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention stopped recommending that all newborns get the hepatitis B vaccine, which has been highly effective at fighting a virus that can lead to lifelong infections and liver cancer. A federal judge in March temporarily blocked the revised childhood vaccination schedule that included that recommendation. Some families are also rejecting the eye ointment.<br /><br />Two weeks ago, at a House subcommittee hearing, Rep. Kim Schrier, D-Wash., pressed Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to reassure parents that the vitamin K shot is safe. He refused and pushed back.<br /><br />“I’ve never said, literally never said, anything about it,” Kennedy said.<br /><br />“That’s exactly the point,” responded Schrier, who is a doctor. “You don’t say anything about it, but the doubt you’ve created about all of medicine and science is causing parents to make dangerous decisions.”<br /><br />An HHS spokesperson did not respond to questions but in an email blamed the administration of former President Joe Biden for the rise in parents rejecting vitamin K shots. “Vitamin K at birth,” the spokesperson added, “remains the standard of care.”<br /><br />Meanwhile, families continue to be inundated with advice from self-proclaimed experts using medical terms incorrectly and misunderstanding science to convince parents that getting the shot could put their newborns at risk of grave harm.<br /><br />Nearly a century’s worth of research and medical advancements shows the opposite to be true.<br /><br />Babies who don’t get the vitamin K shot, research shows, are 81 times more likely than those who do to develop late vitamin K deficiency bleeding, where in many cases oxygen can’t reach their brains and blood pools around their skulls. Perhaps most alarming is that, <b>according to the CDC, 1 in every 5 babies with vitamin K deficiency bleeding will die.</b><br /><br />Determining precisely how many babies have died or suffered severe brain damage because of a lack of vitamin K is difficult. State and federal agencies don’t track data around vitamin K injection refusal or subsequent bleeding, which impedes their ability to quantify and track outcomes, including death.<br /><br />The number of deaths directly attributed to vitamin K deficiency bleeding appears to be small — fewer than a dozen annually — but has started to climb in recent years, according to death certificate data from federal and state agencies.<br /><br />But those numbers capture only a fraction of deaths, which often are classified only by other, more immediate causes, such as bleeding in the brain. In 2024, for example, more than 700 newborns died from spontaneous bleeding in their brains, which could have been complicated by liver disease or prematurity. Still, six medical specialists and one official at the CDC said a meaningful portion of those deaths likely were caused by vitamin K deficiency. Many more babies survive the bleeding but suffer massive brain bleeds and lasting injuries.<br /><br />“A lot of the providers don’t have this on their radar,” said Dr. Jaspreet Loyal, a pediatric hospitalist at Yale Medicine. “The lack of data is almost acting like a reassurance for families that this risk is worth taking.”<br /><br />Although it is difficult to quantify deaths attributable to vitamin K deficiency, there is clearly a large jump in the number of parents declining the vitamin K shot. Some hospitals have seen refusal rates more than double. A national study of more than 5 million births, published in December, found that <b>the rate of U.S. babies not receiving vitamin K at birth topped 5% in 2024 — up 77% from 2017.</b><br /><br />“This was not something we even bothered to spend much educational effort on,” said Dr. Allison Henry, the director of newborn medicine service at Cedars-Sinai Guerin Children’s in Los Angeles, “because there was this simple, safe intervention.”<br /><br />A cluster of cases 13 years ago was one of the first major signs that something was amiss.<br /><br />Four babies were rushed to a Nashville, Tennessee, children’s hospital after they suddenly fell ill months apart. Stunned, doctors ran tests that revealed severe bleeding and reached out to Dr. Robert Sidonio Jr., their blood disorder specialist. They learned that the parents had declined vitamin K shots for the babies, each of them between 6 and 15 weeks old.<br /><br />Once they realized that, the medical team moved quickly to treat them, injecting them with vitamin K and hoping it wasn’t too late. Much to the relief of doctors, they all survived. Only one infant had developmental delays.<br /><br /><b>The parents explained that they had declined the shot for a number of reasons: a concern, based on long-debunked claims, that the shot could cause leukemia; a belief that the shot wasn’t necessary; and a desire to reduce their baby’s exposure to “toxins.”</b><br /><br />The CDC and the state health department opened an investigation and later published a report that found that when the parents declined the shot, their awareness about the risk of bleeding was “incomplete or absent.”<br /><br />Dr. Anna Morad, a pediatrician at Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital at Vanderbilt in Nashville, said she had witnessed a gradual rise in families refusing vitamin K leading up to the hospitalizations.<br /><br />She and her colleagues went into the Nashville community to speak at birthing centers and advise families about the benefits of vitamin K. One mother who had refused the shot for her newborn partnered with Morad and described how she came to realize that the shot can save lives.<br /><br />More than a dozen pediatricians interviewed by ProPublica said they strongly recommend all three of the typical newborn interventions but agreed that the vitamin K shot is the most vital.<br /><br />“I’m picking vitamin K every day,” Morad said. “Absolutely.”<br /><br />With time, the number of families who turned down the shot dropped. As the need for the community outreach waned, Morad lost touch with the mother she had teamed up with and refocused her energy on directing the newborn nursery at Vanderbilt Health.<br /><br />“I’ll be honest, I thought we had turned the corner,” Morad said. “Naively, I thought that would be enough.”<br /><br />Doctors have yet to understand why some babies who don’t get the vitamin K shot are fine while others bleed uncontrollably. But they do know that the risk increases dramatically. For babies who don’t get the shot, the risk for vitamin K deficiency bleeding from a week after birth to 6 months ranges from 1 in 14,000 to 1 in 25,000 births. With the shot, the research shows, the risk drops to less than 1 in 100,000.<br /><br />The role of vitamin K is so crucial that researchers were awarded the Nobel Prize in 1943 for their discovery of its ability to form clots and stop bleeding in babies. The official presenting the award called the discovery the vitamin’s “greatest practical importance” and lauded it among the discoveries that have been of great benefit to humankind.<br /><br />In 1961, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommended that all newborns in the U.S. get a shot of vitamin K. The CDC has supported newborns getting the shot as well, devoting several pages online to raising awareness around vitamin K deficiency bleeding and writing that babies may bleed “into their intestines, or into their brain, which can lead to brain damage and even death.” For decades, medical textbooks and lectures have presented the vitamin K injection as an example of a public health policy success.<br /><br />After reports that vitamin K deficiency bleeding was on the rise, the American Academy of Pediatrics updated its policy statement in 2022 to stress the shot’s safety and efficacy. The paper included talking points for pediatricians to help them respond to common misconceptions: “Vitamin K injection does not contain mercury. Vitamin K does not cause cancer. The vitamin K injection used in newborns is safe. The dose is not too high for newborns.”<br /><br /><b>“We’re a victim of our own success,” said Dr. Ivan Hand, the director of neonatology at Kings County Hospital Center in New York and the co-author of the American Academy of Pediatrics statement. “Since we’ve been treating babies with vitamin K, we haven’t seen much deficiency bleeding, so people think it doesn’t exist.”</b><br /><br />Seeing photos online of healthy babies who didn’t get the vitamin K shot and reading comments from parents who felt justified in their refusal, it’s easy to think that the risk of bleeding isn’t real, or at the very least that it’s exaggerated.<br /><br />On Facebook, comments about the shot include: “Don’t do it!” “Huge lie!” and “It’s a scare tactic.” One person wrote, “Never will I ever inject my baby with poisons from big pharma.”<br /><br />Families have also pointed to a 2023 episode about vitamin K shots by conservative podcaster Candace Owens, who said, “What Big Pharma is saying is that we realize that babies were born wrong. They don’t have enough vitamin K, and so we’re going to give them what they always needed. God designed us wrong.”<br /><br />Owens did not respond to a request for comment.<br /><br />Hidden is the agony of parents mourning the loss of their babies. Some are still in denial.<br /><br />ProPublica spoke with five of those families, but none of them wanted to be identified publicly.<br /><br /><b>The obituaries, social media posts and GoFundMe pages capture the utter despair of the families, though none of them reckon with the decision not to get the vitamin K shot.</b><br /><br />“No one could’ve prepared us for the heartbreak we faced 6 weeks after our little miracle was born,” one mother wrote. “She had a spontaneous unexplained brain bleed that led to brain death.”<br /><br />“We miss his sweet smell,” another family wrote.<br /><br />A third family, who made their decision after reading about vitamin K on social media and talking with their midwife, dismissed the vitamin K shot altogether. Instead, the father expressed outrage at the hospital for not delaying the clamping of the umbilical cord. He said he believed doing so would have allowed his son to be infused with vitamin K from the cord blood, a popular theory on social media. Research, however, shows that while delayed cord clamping can raise the baby’s hemoglobin levels, it does not have the same effect on vitamin K.<br /><br /><b>“I figured the hospital was already pissy with me because we didn’t vaccinate at all,” he told ProPublica. “They lost out on all the money from that.”</b><br /><br />The family’s anger has subsided some since the baby’s death, in part because of their trust in God’s plan.<br /><br />“I can sit here and be upset and sad, but this brought me closer to God,” the father said. “I just can’t wait to be with him.”<br /><br />Two of the families who went on to have other children found themselves facing the same decision: Would they decline the vitamin K shot again? Both got the shot for their newborn.<br /><br />In January, she reached out to Sidonio, her former colleague who first recognized the 2013 cluster of cases there, for advice. Sidonio, now a pediatric hematologist oncologist at Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta and professor at Emory University School of Medicine, said he’s more worried than ever.<br /><br />During that cluster, Sidonio recognized the need to collect data on how often parents decline the shot and what happens to those babies. But in discussions with the CDC, he said, he was told that it would be too difficult.<br /><br />More than a decade later, nothing has come of it. In a recent email to ProPublica, federal officials said vitamin K deficiency bleeding has never been submitted for consideration as a notifiable condition.<br /><br />“If you don’t track it, you don’t document it,” said Sidonio, frustration building in his voice. “They have to make it a reportable health condition, just like a new measles case. That’s the only way it’s going to change.”<br /><br />Like him, Dr. Kristan Scott, the lead author of the national study that found a jump in the number of babies not receiving vitamin K, also landed on a need for a robust system to monitor vitamin K refusals and any subsequent consequences.<br /><br />“We don’t have a clean data repository provided by public health systems or the state that would allow us to be able to track this in a more systematic fashion,” said Scott, who is a neonatologist at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia.<br /><br />Some doctors failed to recognize the role of vitamin K when a baby came into their emergency rooms, let alone knew how to reverse the damage from the declined shots. Many of them encountered the condition only in medical school textbooks.<br /><br />Some hospitals have started to run their own numbers, but the effort is scattershot. The data is also usually kept in house, so there’s not a wider knowledge of the problem. Recognizing the urgency of the matter, officials at a handful of hospitals agreed to share their data with ProPublica.<br /><br />Doctors at St. Louis-based Mercy, which runs birthing hospitals in Missouri, Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas, began noticing an uptick in families turning down the vitamin K shot during the pandemic. Last year, 1,552 babies across all Mercy hospitals didn’t get the injection. In 2021, that number was 536.<br /><br />And at Idaho’s largest hospital system, the refusal rates have gone up every year since the start of the pandemic, and in some cases have more than doubled. In 2020, 3.8% of families across St. Luke’s Health System declined the vitamin K shot for their babies. In 2025, that figure jumped to 9.8%. One hospital even reached 20% of babies not getting vitamin K shots.<br /><br />At least two babies treated at St. Luke’s died within the last year from complications related to vitamin K deficiency bleeding, hospital officials confirmed. But Dr. Tom Patterson, a pediatrician who treats newborns at some St. Luke’s hospitals and is among the most vocal in warning about the climbing refusal rates, suspects there may be more.<br /><br />Patterson recently pleaded with a family to allow their baby to get the shot. The father refused and shocked the doctor by going even further. He approached the nurses to complain about Patterson pushing the matter.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2026 14:51:01 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Turkey has to ban fun ad over 'family values' and launches investigation! (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452177,452177#msg-452177</link><description><![CDATA[From Reddit:<br /><br /><br />I will try to translate the ad best i can. First woman A goes into the store to look for vacuums, where woman B approaches her and asks her if she is a mother then says “Let me guess, 5 years old?”.<br /><br />Woman A: “Four, but he is very naughty.”<br /><br />Woman B: “I have two kids, its a chaos when they come back from the school.”<br /><br />Woman A: “Same happens when we come back from the park.”<br /><br />Woman B: “I recommend this vacuum as a mother.”<br /><br />Woman A: “Oh it also has a silent mode. It’s nice since he is scared of the vacuum a little.”<br /><br />Woman B: “Ah, children are like that.”<br /><br />Woman A: “Yeah, it’s motherhood.”<br /><br />Then woman A comes home with the vacuum and yells “Son!”, the camera turns over to a dog with a plushie in his mouth running at her. The back sound says “You are also a mother when you carry a life in your heart. Happy mother’s day to all mothers.”<br /><br />This Bosch Türkiye’s mother’s day ad has been taken off air, multiple newspapers called it out, Family Minister said it was unacceptable and RTÜK (Radio and Television Supreme Council) has launched an investigation about it. They claim the ad is ruining the “family values”<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/1t4obgx/turkey_has_banned_an_ad_about_celebrating_a_dog/<br /><br />________________________________________________________________________________________________<br /><br />I mean I not a big fan of the dog mom identity, it's not necessary at least when it comes to myself. I'm happy to never be called a mom. My hub even told SIL our dog was not our kid when she was trying to include him in "father's day' activities. It goes to show this parenthood thing is really about following the herd and not being the odd man out, parunts are sheep that mentally are still in grade school, too afraid not to do whatever everyone else is doing. And, they will ruin their lives to fit in. But, I guess Turkey really doesnt take humor well or believe in Free Speech. I mean 'an investigation' is necessary? What do they think they will find? And, why do we have to keep bowing to family values. U want to value these values, go ahead. Everyone else doesnt have to think like you.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2026 21:27:26 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Breeders think the whole apt complex must bow down to their stupid spawn. (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452176,452176#msg-452176</link><description><![CDATA[From Reddit:<br /><br />My wife and I (both 32) have been living at our apartment for 4 years and are both huge horror fans. We have had an art the clown door mat from spirit Halloween for 2 years now, it’s not a Halloween decoration it’s just what we like.<br /><br />Last month (around the beginning of April) we had some neighbors move in across from us. They have two kids, one is a baby and one is maybe 3-4 years old. The first time we met them was a couple days after they moved in, we were all bringing in groceries and I introduced myself, shook hands, all of that. The dad says “still Halloween huh?” And I just laughed it off.<br /><br />Since then we’ve come home 4 times to them flipping our doormat, and we know it’s them because we have a ring camera. We were fine letting them do it and just flippng it back until a couple days ago when we caught them doing it in person. We asked what the issue was and apparently their son is super afraid of it, even though the kid was right there and was acting completely fine. Not crying, not anything. The only one that seemed agitated at all was the mom, who swore at us and rolled her eyes and was just generally unpleasant. Haven’t interacted w her much before or since. My wife waited until they were inside and flipped it back over.<br /><br /><br />He later is wussing out in the comments too. So a new neighbor comes in and gets to tell you what kind of mat to have and can throw it down the stairs. Whatta idiot OP! Everyday would b halloween if it was me and this neighbor.<br />I stayed out with the dad and talked it over and he seemed fine. He said he understood it was our space and he’d talk it over with his wife and <b>that his son was old enough to understand it couldn’t hurt him.</b><br /><br />This morning we walked out and saw our doormat wasn’t even flipped over, <b>it was thrown outside of the stairwell</b>. We live on the 4th floor so it was a very deliberate thing.<br />:<br />My wife wants to report it to management but I’m just about tired enough of this. I kinda wanna throw it away, but I also wanna keep it. Idk, I’m just confused yall.<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1t3xxb3/aita_for_not_removing_my_doormat_because_it/<br /><br />---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I think the OP is TAH for even thinking of throwing the mat away. I'll never understand the 'my kid is scared' thing. First of all, my mom woulda just said, "its just a picture, mat, pretend, make believe" and that would just be IT. Every time a parent gives some such BS that their kid is too shy, or whatever, I just say, and calmly and loving as possible, As the adult in his life, this is the PERFECT OPPROTUNITY to explain to him that blah blah blah blah and then he should learn and gain confidence in this situation, so he will grow up more confident blah blah blah blah. Your job as a parent is not to parent the rest of the world to protect your kids' whims, it is to teach your kids about their surroundings and reality, and the reality is a mat is pretend scary. WTF. But what do i know, I'm not a parent!<br /><br /><br />BTW, this is the mat in question and repliers are saying it is extra terrifying. Um, not to me, and i'm not a horror fan. I still say, your a parent, explain to child it is just a picture on a mat, and it's been there for a week? or month? or so....and nothing is happening to you kid. OR, tell him not to look. https://www.spirithalloween.com/product/art-the-clown-head-doormat-terrifier/269251.uts]]></description>
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<title>What I always suspected, it never gets better:thumb (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452173,452173#msg-452173</link><description><![CDATA[From Reddit:<br /><br />One thing I realized, going from stage to stage, is that people keep telling me: it gets better. It's like Sisyphus pushing the rock and having it fall down. Dealing with a colicky baby? "It gets better". Personality changes? "It gets better." Then they're walking and talking and screaming, you hear "it gets better". Dealing with having to drive them all over, temper tantrums, bedtimes, "it gets better". Teenage years? "it gets better".<br /><br />Maybe time to realize that it will never get better. <b>Time to realize that it's all cope</b>. It will always be bad, just in different ways, but guess what, it still is bad. I hate being a parent. Everything I enjoyed in my pre-parent life I barely get to enjoy now. My relationship with my partner is strained because neither of us can connect in the same way now.<br /><br />Not my quote but relevant:"<b>the world will ask you who you are, and if you don't know it will answer for you.</b>" Before becoming a parent I never really had a desire for kids but my partner did. Worst mistake of my life.<br /><br />So far I've realized that having a kid is like your friend telling you to keep watching some shitty tv series because it gets better in the 3rd season or something.<br /><br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/regretfulparents/comments/1t2yn4q/guess_what_it_never_gets_better/<br /><br />------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /><br />The replies all agree with her and they all just say they are waiting for the kids to grow up and out of the house and hopefully have no time to visit them so they can go back to living their lives again. Wow. I'm so glad people no longer are afraid to talk this way, at least behind a keyboard on social media. They dread the fact that adult kids no longer move out anymore.<br /><br />Also about her quote about life telling you who you are. This is something I've realized in older age about humans. This is yet another reason I dont get people having kids, just because, or just because they might regret it if they dont, most people are lazy, especially at different stages in life. My friends have commented they never could go back to school FT or night school a full week of classes, or work out on a regular basis, or do trully hard work outs, and many other hard achievements, like they graduate HS or college and that's it for them, especially as an adult w/ home life and work life responsibilities. Yet, they marry and get talked into the lifescript, and either think its easy, bcz it is, its not technically hard work, but it is thankless busy work especially how now kyds are not allowed out of your sight to play, or, they know its hard and dont want to admit it to themselves or the world that they arent this soulful caring mommie or daddye type I mean if you cant routinely keep a workout up 3-4x a week, what makes you think you'll want to have all that busywork after your job during the day? So they do it, and life teaches them who they are and are not. This has to be why they want everyone to join the cult, and the misery loves company shit about it.]]></description>
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<title>Grandbreeder finding ways for her daughter to breed in case daughter ever passes away:crazy (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452168,452168#msg-452168</link><description><![CDATA[This has to top everything we've ever read regarding CFs and their rabid families<br /><br />---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />I have been openly childfree in my family for years. I went through with a full hysterectomy a while ago, and life has never been better for myself. I have a range of mental and physical health issues that really cemented my decision to not pass on my genes.<br /><br />Last week my mother asked me if I’d ever considered freezing my eggs. I said no, kinda defeats the whole purpose of hysterectomy right? She literally then asks me, <b>well if you’re dying and still young are you going to give me permission to freeze your eggs?</b> wtf?<br /><br />Absolutely not. Like what the fuck do you hope to accomplish? Forcing a child against my wishes because I passed? I had already filled out a power of attorney to make my partner or friend the decision maker should anything have happened during my surgery.<br /><br />I’m in the process of writing a will, but now I feel the need to have my power of medical attorney notarized and like stored somewhere because that comment scared the crap out of me. I’m not legally married yet.<br /><br />Is there anything else I should do? I don’t know if she’d actually try it, but wtf?<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/1swih2a/any_advice_my_mom_scared_the_shit_out_of_me_this/<br /><br />-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br /><br />I mean do breeder ever think of anything else other than breeding? Just not good enough to have your daughter and just let her live her life?<br /><br />Gee whiz!]]></description>
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<title>NTSB wants bus drivers tested for drunkenness (no replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452166,452166#msg-452166</link><description><![CDATA[In fairness, if I had to work as a school bus driver, I'd come to work smashed too. I swear it's the only driving job where you are allowed and expected to be distracted. How can you possibly expect to drive safely when you have to turn around and yell at kids every three seconds while operating a massive vehicle?<br /><br />Also, if bus drivers need to be tested for alcohol, then I think parents should be too. All this shit about "carrying our most precious cargo," but you KNOW plenty of parents have driven their brats around with a BAC higher than zero. Can you imagine the uproar if all parents' vehicles were fitted with ignition interlock devices? It's their God-given right to drive Aschh-le'igheee to clarinet practice after slamming a 12-pack, goddammit!<br /><br />Also, does the NTSB not think bus drivers who are sloshed won't just have kids blow in the devices in exchange for like a candy bar? Like, "Pretend like you're blowing out birthday candles right into this little thingy for me!" They have a whole bus full of idiots who would happily sell their family's souls for a pack of Pokemon cards.<br /><br />And oh look at that, it would cost $100 per month for the monitoring system to operate too, on top of the device and installation costs. Gee I wonder who will be paying for that? Don't schools piss and moan every single year about how they don't have the budget for anything? Sooo we're looking at an expense of $900 per year (taking summer break into account, or $1200 a year if they don't cancel the service for summer) per bus.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, drunk bus drivers are a little worse than drunk single drivers because if they get into an accident, they stand the chance of injuring a lot more people simply because they are operating massive machines carrying a lot of passengers.<br /><br />Not saying it's a bad idea to ensure school bus drivers are not impaired. I just find it funny that they are concerned about them being drunk when their driving is already impaired having to yell at students to sit down/leave the other kids alone/stop screaming/etc. You could not fucking pay me enough to drive a school barge, especially not sober.<br /><br /><u>https://www.wfsb.com/2026/04/24/school-buses-should-all-have-alcohol-tests-avoid-drunken-driving-ntsb-recommends/</u><br /><br /><hr class="bbcode"/><br />After a school bus rolled on a West Virginia highway two years ago, forcing one boy to have his leg amputated and seriously injuring two other children aboard, police quickly discovered the driver was drunk.<br /><br />But the National Transportation Safety Board then discovered something even more troubling: School bus drivers driving impaired was not an isolated problem.<br /><br />That’s why the NTSB on Thursday recommended for the first time that all new school buses be equipped with alcohol detection systems that can disable the bus if they detect the driver might be impaired. Similar systems are already used on school buses in parts of Europe.<br /><br /><span style="color:#FF0000">“There’s a higher expectation for school bus drivers than many other types of drivers,</span>” <span style="color:#FF0000"><b>(but not for parents, I'm sure)</b></span> said Kris Poland, deputy director of the NTSB’s Office of Highway Safety. “We expect that the drivers are attentive, not fatigued, not impaired and are driving as safely as possible.”<br /><br />The agency didn’t estimate the cost of adding the detection systems to buses or say who would foot the bill. The kind of ignition interlock device that people charged with DUIs are routinely required to get costs about $75 to $150 to install and roughly $100 a month to monitor.<br /><br /><b>Alcohol is linked to one-third of traffic deaths</b><br /><br />Federal regulators or states could require the technology, but Congress would have to pass legislation to ensure widespread adoption. The NTSB recommendation focuses on alcohol and not drugs because they determined that was the probable cause of this crash and there aren’t similar tests available for other drugs like marijuana. There also aren’t clear legal standards for exactly how much of other drugs is enough to impair a driver.<br /><br />It follows a previous recommendation by NTSB that Congress adopted to require alcohol detection systems in all new passenger vehicles. But that rule has yet to be rolled out because it is still caught up in the rulemaking process.<br /><br />The NTSB has long been concerned about drunken driving because alcohol is a factor in one-third of the roughly 37,000 traffic deaths each year. Investigators struggled to nail down exact stats on how common a problem this is among school bus drivers, but they found enough evidence to convince them that alcohol detection systems are needed.<br /><br />A report by the news service Stateline.org in 2020 showed at least 118 school bus drivers had been ticketed or arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol or other drugs over the five previous years, said Meg Sweeny, the primary author of the NTSB report on the West Virginia bus crash.<br /><br />In that crash, the driver lost control of the bus after hitting a driveway culvert off the right side of a rural road. All 19 children aboard were hurt, but most had only minor injuries. The driver was sentenced last year to up to 110 years in prison.<br /><br />Data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration shows that 407 school bus drivers were involved in fatal crashes between 2020 and 2024. Only two of those tested positive for alcohol, and only one of them had a blood alcohol level above the legal limit, but those numbers only included fatal crashes so the West Virginia crash and most of the citations and arrests Stateline found wouldn’t be accounted for.<br /><br /><b>Protecting our ‘precious passengers’</b><br /><br />The number of drunken driving cases among bus drivers alarmed even though it remains a small portion of all drivers, Peter Kurdock, who is general counsel for Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety.<br /><br />“Children going to and from the schoolhouse are America’s most precious passengers,” Kurdock said. “So we should be doing all we can to make the bus as safe as possible.”<br /><br />But Kurdock predicted it will likely face pushback from the owners of the nation’s half-million school buses, much like the industry has opposed the NTSB’s longstanding recommendation to add seat belts to school buses.<br /><br />Several states have required seat belts, but most school buses do not have them partly because the buses are regarded as quite safe already. But even when seat belts have been installed, the NTSB said students might not wear them, so they issued an urgent recommendation last fall after a Texas crash for districts to take steps to ensure their use.<br /><br />None of the three biggest school bus companies that transport kids on some 80,000 buses each day or the primary bus manufacturers responded to phone calls and emails seeking comment about the NTSB recommendation. The National School Boards Association and two of the biggest busing trade groups didn’t immediately have comment.<br /><br />Of the nearly 1,000 fatal crashes involving school buses in the decade leading up to 2023, 70% of the nearly 1,100 people who died were in other vehicles and not the buses, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s latest statistics.<br /><br />Only 113 school bus passengers were killed in that timeframe, showing how the massive yellow vehicles are generally safe as long as the children aren’t thrown out of their seats. That is where the NTSB believes installing seat belts and making sure kids are wearing them would make a significant difference.<br /><br /><b>The benefits of detecting alcohol make this worthwhile</b><br /><br />Attorney Todd Spodek, whose New York law firm has handled tens of thousands of drunken driving cases, doesn’t think the recommendation would violate the rights of bus drivers. He doesn’t think drivers would be able to make any argument that being screened for alcohol use is too onerous. <b><span style="color:#FF0000">(Clearly Mr. Spodek here has never known any alcoholics) .</span></b><br /><br />Spodek said the safety benefits of ensuring bus drivers are not impaired far outweighs any concerns about hassles for the drivers.<br /><br />“If you’re in a position of control of something like that, you should be held to a higher scrutiny,” Spodek said. “It’s a minor inconvenience with a tremendous upside.”]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2026 23:54:56 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Breeders can't pay attention to their own kids as usual even when volunteer to chaparone (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452161,452161#msg-452161</link><description><![CDATA[“Miss, how much longer?”<br /><br />Asked by a parent chaperone about halfway through a three and a half hour field trip. She was in charge of TWO six year olds. “In charge” really gives her more credit than she was due though, because I had to keep disciplining her precious child as she just stood there.<br /><br />Side note: we limit how many parents can come on trips. When we ask for volunteers we get lots who request to go, and you assume it’s because they’re looking forward to a fun experience with their child. On this trip though, a good number of parents were on their phones most of the time. One dad kept taking phone calls. It was ridiculous but par for the course this year— I teach kindergarten and these are the “Covid” babies. <b>We’ve never seen such a lack of connection between parents and kids as we have this year.</b> The next few years are going to be rough.<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1st2a81/miss_how_much_longer/<br /><br />Im sure they get a lot of volunteers bcz they get a free day off work, as corps like my work give at least 1 day volunteer time, and who knows what they can weasel out of their boss looking like a good parunt. Todays parent obviously has to at least look involved,but evidently not be involved, just stare at a phone. Smartphones really have brought out people's and parents' true colors if you ask me.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Teacher reddit is actually pretty scary TBH. More how kids are horrendous and they arent allowed to do anything about it. How stupid the kids are and they also arent allowed to do anything about it but pass them on to the next grade. We will likely be taken over by IDK the Chinese in a couple decades bcz all the adults will be so dumb.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2026 00:25:46 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Even inventor of Gender Reveal parties says these parents are Narcissistic. (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452155,452155#msg-452155</link><description><![CDATA[She no longer wants to be associated with these events.<br /><br /><br />https://wgntv.com/news/the-creator-of-the-gender-reveal-party-is-horrified-at-what-parents-are-doing-now/<br /><br /><br /><br />(NEXSTAR) – Eighteen years ago, Jenna Karvunidis was expecting her first baby. She got her friends and family together for a party, cut into a cake, revealing pink icing inside. The baby was a girl.<br /><br />It’s a familiar concept now, but it was novel in 2008. Karvunidis posted about the party to her blog and the idea picked up steam. She was profiled in news articles and the idea spread from there. Today, she’s credited as the inventor of the “gender reveal” party, a public celebration in which expecting parents reveal if they’re having a baby with two X chromosomes or an X and a Y. Pink or blue, girl or boy.<br /><br />Since Karvunidis’ party in 2008, the concept of a gender reveal has ballooned, morphing into something nearly unrecognizable. For one, her cake made from a Betty Crocker box mix looks pretty amateur compared to the elaborate designs you’d see on Instagram today. (To be fair, Instagram didn’t even exist when Karvunidis had her first gender reveal.)<br /><br /><br />Jenna Karvunidis made this cake to reveal to her family she was expecting a baby girl in 2008. Now she regrets inventing the concept of a “gender reveal” party.<br /><br />People still use cakes, but they also pop giant balloons, explode confetti bombs, or paint each other’s bodies. Meanwhile, the concept has been haunting Karvunidis for years.<br /><br /><br />On an episode of “Jeopardy!” this month, contestants were given a clue about Karvunidis inventing the gender reveal. As host Ken Jennings read out the answer, he acknowledged that Karvunidis “later said the concept is limiting.”<br /><br />Today, Karvunidis tells Nexstar her feeling is even stronger. “Now I’m kind of horrified, going ‘Oh no, please don’t associate me with that.'”<br /><br /><br />Gender reveal parties over the years have led to multiple deaths and the destruction of property. When an elaborate gender reveal involving explosives sparked a 47,000-acre wildfire in Arizona, Karvunidis admits she felt guilty.<br /><br />“I know that I did not directly cause anything… but you know, in my own way, I felt responsible.”<br /><br />She took every opportunity to speak out against gender reveal parties. She wrote on Facebook in 2020, “Stop having these stupid parties. For the love of God, <b>stop burning things down to tell everyone about your kid’s penis. No one cares but you.</b>”<br /><br />She has since forgiven herself for any imagined culpability for the fire, but still has some regret over inadvertently putting extra emphasis on a binary concept of gender.<br /><br /><br />“I was really just trying to build a community for my baby,” she says. “I wasn’t even trying to focus so much on the gender. I was just kind of using that as a hook to get everybody excited and to have something to reveal.”<br /><br />Karvunidis says the idea of blue is for boys and pink is for girls doesn’t fit with her family or family values. When she posted a family photo in 2019 that showed her eldest daughter wearing a suit, Karvunidis says her family was hit with an onslaught of cyberbullying and hateful comments.<br /><br />“She was in fourth grade or something like that when all this started going viral,” she says. “She’s not transgender, she’s just who she is, she’s always gone by she/her pronouns. … but that was really traumatic for her.<br /><br />“I would love to tell you, ‘Oh, it’s been a great family story and we just really enjoyed the attention,’ but that’s not true. That’s not true at all. If I could have gone back and never done it I wouldn’t, just for the sole reason of not affecting her childhood. I would have never done it.”<br /><br /><br />Karvunidis made some changes after that first pregnancy in 2008. In each of her subsequent pregnancies, she decided to find out the baby’s sex, but opted to do so privately with just her husband. The gender reveals crafted as a spectacle for social media also don’t resonate with her, and feel far away from the family-oriented, community-minded origin story of the trend.<br /><br /><b>“It’s become very narcissistic, I guess you could say.</b> … Social media has just become so toxic in my opinion.”<br /><br />Karvunidis says she ended up taking down the blog that started it all. An attorney by day, she’s channeling her creative energy into launching a new party planning app that’s “radically inclusive,” with options for different dietary restrictions and disabilities.<br /><br />When she saw the clue mentioning her on “Jeopardy!” recently, she says she was most struck that Jennings pronounced her name correctly. That felt more notable than any sort of legacy related to gender reveal parties.<br /><br /><br />=======================================================================================<br /><br />Don't know what happens to couples once they breed, getting pregnant was such a quiet personal thing for a family. Now the last couple decades its 'look at me look at me" "celebrate me!" We gotta stop all this performative stuff for that lil camera in our pockets. I'm still shocked that people arent bored w/ smartphones yet, or ick'd out how attention-whoring we all got.<br /><br />Make people burn down a house and put pee sticks in boxes so infertile couples can celebrate your dick and vag working! Yippie!]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 20:34:21 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Ego-centric Breeders give future uncle &amp; aunt gross surprise gift:trout (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452144,452144#msg-452144</link><description><![CDATA[From Reddit, stupid breeders give their sib and spouse, who are struggling with cancer and infertility, a 'gift' about their parasite and need to record their reaction, because it is oh so important!<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />My wife (f, 38) has a younger brother (m, 34). He’s clearly the most beloved in the family that can do no wrong, but he’s a good guy. He has a girlfriend (also a very nice girl) and they moved together last year<br /><br />Now, me and my wife wanted to have kids, but 4y ago she was diagnosed with cancer and while she’s luckily in total remission, therapies stop us from even trying (and given her age, it means that we will probably never have kids).<br /><br />One month ago we were invited by her parents for lunch with the brother and the girlfriend, but unfortunately my wife got ill (she’s still very fragile) the evening before, and we had to cancel. They reprogrammed two weeks later, but again she got high fever in the morning and we could not join.<br /><br />For some reason, everybody sounded very angry at this, her brother even asking me if I thought it was only stress and not a real illness. I got a bit pissed, explained that fever is real, and close the conversation.<br /><br />Finally, yesterday we had the dinner. At the end they told that there was a <b>gift for us</b> and they wanted to <b>record our reaction</b> with their phones. <b>Inside the package there was a pregnancy test.</b> My wife started ugly crying, saying that it was happiness and hugging/crying for a few minutes the future mum. I went through different stages (happiness for them, regret, pain for my wife) and my brother-in-law said something along the lines <b>“now you know why i was upset for you skipping the dinners!”</b> To which I (with a less than pleasant tone) answered that they could have simply called us, and no need to make all that scene. Everyone around us was shocked and uncertain how to react, my wife started feeling unwell (actually, fever again) so we basically left.<br /><br />Now, I know I should say sorry to them, but at the same time the fact that nobody, even her mother, thought that this could have been a somewhat stressing moment for my wife makes me upset. They have all the rights to be happy, and we should be for them. So I feel I’m the asshole here<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/1sp24dv/aita_for_not_being_happy_at_becoming_an_uncle/<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />The brother here, come on, like "do you think its just stress" So what is the hub supposed to do? Ask his cancer patient wife, hey you think youre not really sick today and its just stress, maybe we should go out to dinner anyway?"<br /><br />The comments correctly indicate this is ridic to record and a ridic gift and putting a pee stick in a box just shouldnt be done. Yes, just call them, and tell them. Seems like the whole dinner was planned solely for the fact they wanted to record something stupid for social media.<br /><br />Becuz while I dont have cancer or infertility issues, I would have just opened the box, been rather grossed out and miffed this is how they made the announcement, trying to hide my disgust, and just smiled and gave a cheery 'congrats' and maybe give the couple a hug. I never cared when anyone made announcements like this at a dinner...yippee for you...wish I could give you a crystal ball to look at all the complaining that's gonna start once your life is on hold 24/7. and youre finishing your WFH stuff at 1am, so you can cook and entertain your bratz after school. Great life, lets celebrate it now!<br /><br /><br />Remeber, breeding makes you a better, kinder person! Not insensitive oafs!]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 04:04:27 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Moo onfluencer runs over own kid (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452142,452142#msg-452142</link><description><![CDATA[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/influencer-kelly-hopton-jones-accidentally-153800021.html<br /><br />Seems that she was so into posting about parenting she was not looking and ran over the kid. The kid survived with a fractured pelvis]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2026 17:10:33 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>This is what we're missing by not having kids.--Shower Debacle (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452139,452139#msg-452139</link><description><![CDATA[Ok, I keep getting an error message, so here's the C&P link so you can read yourself.<br /><br />Remember, "It gets easier as they get older"<br /><br />Remember, "If you dont have kids, youre missing out"<br /><br />Lemme ask, did <u>you</u> do this stuff when you were their ages? Did <u>your</u> parents put up with it? Obvious answer is march them up there immediately and have them all clean it, no excuses. But Im not a parent so I guess I dont know nothing.<br /><br />https://www.reddit.com/r/stepparents/comments/1sgojyn/shower_debacle/]]></description>
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<title>The effect of the hormones on moos (1 reply)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452136,452136#msg-452136</link><description><![CDATA[https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/dwts-hayley-erbert-says-her-213022099.html<br /><br />It is kinda cringe to read]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2026 17:06:48 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Parents being super raging sensitive (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452131,452131#msg-452131</link><description><![CDATA[https://old.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/1sbzl6s/my_friend_is_mad_at_me_because_of_a_comment_i/<br /><br />A "cf" autistic woman is friends with a guy who had an accidentally kid, just accidentally offended him. The brat was an accident and he took it to a b-day party for it's first b-day. The op said that the kid doesn't know if it is happy or not due to it's age and the guy acted like she said the kid would grew up to be a future tard.<br /><br />She had to apolgize and wondered if she went to far. A lot of the commenters on r/cf took his side and told her to stick with "classic comments" that will steer the topic away from kids.<br /><br />I had a feeling he really regrets the brat and is going overboard with love for it to force himself to love it as he does not, but knows he can't undo it all.<br />The op said she is "cf" as she does not want to pass down autism, maybe more like cl as in she would have kids if only autism was not an issue.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 02:51:51 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Well, I guess this moo will never know (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452129,452129#msg-452129</link><description><![CDATA[https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/woman-became-pregnant-having-sex-172718646.html<br /><br />Moo bangs twin guys, gets knocked up and I guess DNA can never prove which one it is]]></description>
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<title>I just love reading the Stepparent subreddit every day (4 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452127,452127#msg-452127</link><description><![CDATA[Ive said it before on another thread, but I luv luv luv it.<br /><br />They all tell all the taboo truths about parunthood, and it doesnt matter if they have their own kids too,or have a new biological child w/ their spouse.<br /><br />All the guilty divorced parunts letting their kids run the house w/ no rules or consequences, no chores for any child of any age. All the carting around to events and appointments. Them too all admitting that they cant wait for the kids to grow up, and that includes the bio parents saying the same thing. The 'theyre only young once, so enjoy it' is a fallacy they say becz they too all admit that they can do w/o the "little kid years" of 5-8 or so. Cant wait for the teens to get the hell out either. Some of the stepparents have known the kids from toddlerhood, so this is watching them grow up into shitty snotty kids and hating them as they grow. They all chime in and calculate how many years they have left till the kid just gets out of the house and console each other with that. (good luck w/ the failure to launch crowd)<br /><br />I wonder if I could love anyone so much to become a stepparent. It's awful. But much is this is brought on by modern parenting...the cosleeping, that goes on and on into grade school years, the delay in potty training, the delay in teaching kids how to wipe their butts, the delay of giving ANY age appropriate chores, the making of another meal if the different kids wont eat it, the constant asking for snacks(this seems to be a regular thing), the putting up w/ sassy mouths, disrespect, bad behavior, bad grades, failure to launch, constant all day scrolling and loud video games that disturb the whole house, they wedge themselves between the couple when the couple shows any affection...which is bizarre to me bcz this seems to go on w/ the kids at all ages. IDK about you guys, I wasnt 'hugging' 'cuddling' w/ my parents all the time like a lover thru out the day or on the couch. Maybe before I was 5 but I would hug kiss them goodbye and good nite, stuff like that, and I certainly didnt see it in other fams I visited, the little siblings didnt do it in front of me while I was visiting my pals. All the things these stepparents complain about are totally foreign to me. This stuff just didnt go on when I was a child in the olden days lol My mom had it ez in comparison,and had virtually none of these probs becz the adults just didnt put up w/ it. But todays kids use their parents as their main entertainment and slavery it seems.<br /><br />Once my MIL got mad at me for speaking frankly about women and the misery drudgery of raising kids, I wish I could recall my exact words, and she immediately said "Its not drudgery!!!" and was miffed the rest of the night. But she's the breeder who always says shes happy when the grandkids go home. But I wish I could pull up this subreddit and read it out loud together with her. I think she'd be cool if I was a moo, and complained, but I'm not allowed to comment bcz Im CF.<br /><br />So the babies are too dependent and overwhelming on parents, The toddlers get into things and also dependent w/ butt wiping etc., the little kid years are miserable, Ive heard 10-12 is a sweet spot for raising kids but I've also heard the exact opposite, then everyone braces for the teen years and they are hateful and miserable, then they go to college and come back and still walk all over you and have resentful personalities. Sooo, exactly WHEN is parenthood a fucking joy and so worth it??? The subreddit posters say all this terrible stuff even when they DO like the kids and have a supportive spouse!<br /><br />And, with knowing all this, people get remarried and have second families? How can this be? One poster even said to the OP of a thread, youre almost out of the woods w/ the stepkid, why are you adding to your family now? (I mean if I was doing something that caused so much misery after I thought I wanted it so bad, I wouldnt go out and buy/get another of the same thing to deal w/ for 20 odd years, would you?)<br /><br />And, honestly, depending what is going on in the marriage, I'm not sure I would ever get divorced after reading this subreddit either, Your life is so not your own w/ the scheduling and emergencies and changes and carting kids around. Might as well sleep at work and just not have a personal life bcz you dont have one anyway.<br /><br /><br />But my fave pastime is reading this site every day, I find much satisfaction and joy in it. I find it just so truthful and refreshing. Sucks to be Moo as we say. hahaha]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2026 18:26:16 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>cue the bitching (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452124,452124#msg-452124</link><description><![CDATA[Pub owner bans kids because of the parents<br /><br /><a href="https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pub-landlord-bans-children-and-says-it-is-entitled-parents-not-the-children-who-are-to-blame/ar-AA1Z8g7C?ocid=winp1taskbar&cvid=69c0dd7d8705405bb1eba1698f41cdd5&ei=34" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Pub landlord bans children - and says it is 'entitled' parents not the children who are to blame</a>]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 19:47:27 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Moo needed to download app to boobfeed (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452121,452121#msg-452121</link><description><![CDATA[http://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1rvbw6a/i_had_to_download_a_stupid_app_and_create_an/<br /><br />She was at an airport and had to download a free app to open the "boobfeeding pod"]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 00:26:35 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Daily dose of outrage from reddit and it's only 9 in the morning (8 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452106,452106#msg-452106</link><description><![CDATA[Did any of you see this? I saw it, and hoo boy, I have OPINIONS:<br /><br /><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/childfreewomen/comments/1rmq7fw/i_am_with_this_kid_and_im_sorry_that_his_parents/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Surprise, kid #5</a><br /><br />It's a video of parents "surprising" their children at Christmas with the announcement that mommy and daddy have been rawdogging and she's knocked up with kid #5. I have so many problems with everything that comes next, lol.<br /><br />One of the older boys bursts into tears in response and says he has to text his dad. Moo asks him why he's crying (I don't know this kid and *I* can tell he's upset, but apparently she thought it might be happy tears?) and he says, "You're already pregnant?" He gestures at the youngest and says, "She's only 10 months old!" The self-awareness with which he says it is infuriating. When you see a kid who talks like an adult, 99% of the time it's because of something awful. I would bet cash that he's already helping raise the two younger kids. I would further bet that he's completely aware of the dynamic change where some of the kids belong to the current BF/husband, and some don't. Stuff like that doesn't fly over kids' heads. If the new guy makes any difference between moo's older kids and his own, all of the children will know it. Whatever the reasons, I have no doubt the kid's tears are valid.<br /><br />Then the bitch tries to argue him down, telling him she "thought he'd be happy." You know how you find out if kids would be happy with a sibling? <i>You fucking talk to them.</i> But if she really cared about his opinion, she'd have told BF/new hubby to put down the phone and she'd be talking to her child, rather than laughing at the funny "I'm having a real crisis and no one else cares" response.<br /><br />Then when he asks her why they're having another kid, she says she guesses god decided they needed another baby.<br /><br />What. A. Fucking. Cunt.<br /><br />Be honest with your kid. Tell him that what you want matters more than what he wants, that he wasn't important enough in the decision making to even warrant a conversation, and acknowledge that it was your choice, not some imaginary sky daddy. And if you live somewhere that abortion is illegal, well...you can afford to feed five kids, you can afford a trip out of state.<br /><br />I wish we could follow up on stuff like this later. I'd love to find out that the poor kid grew up, got therapy, and moo/stepidiot complain that he never visits....]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2026 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Another parent of a school shooter charged for their brat's crimes (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452103,452103#msg-452103</link><description><![CDATA[I'm glad to see this seems to be becoming the norm. Colt Gray was responsible for the 2024 shooting in a Georgia school that killed two teachers and two students. According to other news coverage, the kid's Duh knew he was mentally disturbed and just didn't want to deal with it (his ex-wife said as much), but Duh claimed he had the kid seeing a school therapist. And he proceeded to buy the kid an AR-15 for Christmas knowing full well he was sick because he thought they could bond over hunting together and never thought the kid would use the gun to kill a person. Even though the kid would fucking sleep with the gun.<br /><br />So because Duh decided his fucked-up mistake needed a firearm, he was found guilty of murder, manslaughter, cruelty and reckless behavior. Brat boy was charged with 55 felony counts, including four counts of felony murder and 25 counts of aggravated assault, second-degree murder, involuntary manslaughter, and cruelty to children and pled not guilty to all of them. I hope he doesn't think his age will do him any favors because he's being tried as an adult.<br /><br />It's one thing if you know your kid is messed up and you just don't do anything about it - that's just neglect. But when the kid has a FUCKING SHRINE dedicated to school shooters in his room and you give him a gun, you are an accessory to murder. Of course Duh is going to try to save his own ass by going, "Hurr durr I didn't think he was a threat!" You gave the kid the ingredients he needed to be a threat. It's like pouring gas on the floor and lighting a candle near it and complaining when a fire starts.<br /><br /><u>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-father-colin-gray-found-guilty-sons-alleged-deadly-school-shoo-rcna261318</u><br /><br /><blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong></strong><br/>A Georgia jury Tuesday took the rare action of holding a father criminally responsible for actions blamed on his son, who is alleged to have gunned down two schoolmates and two teachers while he was armed with an AR-15-style rifle kept in their home.<br /><br />The panel in Barrow County found Colin Gray, 55, guilty of all charges, which included second-degree murder and cruelty to children, in connection with the Sept. 4, 2024, mass shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder. His son, Colt Gray, is charged with the shooting itself.<br /><br />Prosecuting parents for their children’s committing school shootings does have at least one precedent.<br /><br />James Crumbley and his wife, Jennifer Crumbley, were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in connection with the 2021 deadly shooting at Oxford High School in suburban Detroit by their son Ethan Crumbley.<br /><br />Colt Gray's mother cited the Crumbley case when she urged that her son's access to guns should be cut off before the 2024 mass shooting, Barrow County District Attorney Brad Smith said.<br /><br />"We hope that [this conviction] moves the needle a little further," Smith told reporters.<br /><br />"I think you saw in this case that the mother actually reviewed what happened in Michigan ... and she then, as a result of that, asked her husband to remove the weapons," Smith said.<br /><br />"It could have ended this tragedy. So Michigan was able to move the needle to the point that almost stopped this tragedy," he said. "How many tragedies it did stop? We hope we move the needle a little further."<br /><br />The jury deliberated for less than two hours before it found Gray guilty on all 27 charges. He didn't appear to show outward emotions as the jury delivered its verdicts.<br /><br />After the jury was polled to confirm all of the guilty verdicts, Gray, wearing a blue sport coat and khaki pants, was handcuffed and taken away by court security.<br /><br />Superior Court Judge Nicholas Primm didn't immediately set a date for sentencing, saying, "There are a lot of people that need to be notified and have a right to appear." Gray faces up to 243 years behind bars.<br /><br />Defense attorneys declined to answer reporters’ questions as they left the courthouse.<br /><br />Colt Gray is accused of using the firearm his father should have secured to carry out the slaughter about 45 miles northeast of downtown Atlanta.<br /><br />The younger Gray, who was 14 at the time of the shooting, remains in custody, and a trial date has not yet been set.<br /><br />Prosecutors accused Colin Gray of ignoring warning signs of his son's potential violence and allowing him access to the high-capacity weapon used at Apalachee High School.<br /><br />Jurors were shown pictures of Colt's bedroom, which included pictures of school shooter Nikolas Cruz on the wall. Cruz killed 14 students and three staff members at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on Feb. 14, 2018.<br /><br />The four slain in Georgia were Mason Schermerhorn, 14; Christian Angulo, 14; Richard Aspinwall, 39; and Cristina Irimie, 53.<br /><br />Colin Gray, testifying on his own behalf, recounted incidents of his son’s feeling bullied at school and occasionally showing signs of rage.<br /><br />Still, he told jurors he never considered his son to be a violent threat.<br /><br />“I never thought that he would even have a thought process of bringing a gun to school or doing any kind of harm to anybody else. Well, on anybody at school,” the older Gray told jurors.</div></blockquote>]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 08:06:52 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Sports industry - grift on famlees (3 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452101,452101#msg-452101</link><description><![CDATA[It has become a trend for sports activities for brats to include traveling and additional grifts where the high charging coaches tend to be washed up players who never achieved success. From what I understand about from whiny parunts their brats can't even play some sports if they don't jump through all these hoops. These activities cost thousands of dollars annually just for entry.<br /><br />Brats that are average at sports (over 95% of them) either travel or they get left behind and lose friends. Even if parunts see the grift they really can't win because if they say no to the traveling sports industry then they'll risk forever being the one who denied their kids their professional sports contracts. Even if the odds are around one a million that their brat would ever sign a sports contract. And even the pros typically have a pro career of five years or less and a decent amount warm the bench. And sports injuries haven't even been discussed, which sideline even the most promising athletes.<br /><br />I've heard countless adults talk about how they missed out on being a pro in this sport or that. No, Karen...for starters you weren't scouted in high school. So, even grown adults think they were denied their golden opportunity.<br /><br />But this is not the kind of thing a parunt can explain to a brat because even some adults have difficulty accepting that they had no chance of ever becoming a professional athlete under any circumstances. It is a very rare parent that raises their kids with humility and self-awareness and is honest enough to inform their kid they don't have the potential to play whatever sport beyond high school, if that.<br /><br />I'm very happy to be childfree and not having to deal with this grift: expenses in the four digits plus shuttling to and from practice and traveling on the weekends.]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 02:40:20 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Even feminists see women as mothers (2 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452083,452083#msg-452083</link><description><![CDATA["I just can’t see a woman doing this. If her child died or something, yes. Over a man? Hell no. Especially a young woman."<br /><br />Found that quote on reddit/2X<br /><br />from https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1rdffy5/married_gop_congressman_tony_gonzales_sent/<br />It comcerns a young woman who literally set herself on fire over the end of a relationship/marriage.<br /><br />My first thought is why would anyone do that over the loss of ANYONE, child inculded]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:27:07 +0000</pubDate></item>
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<title>Mom of 7-year-old hospitalized with brain swelling from measles: ‘I still wouldn’t have given my son the vaccine’ (5 replies)</title><link>http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,452079,452079#msg-452079</link><description><![CDATA[Parents of four decide not to vaccinate the last child, resulting in the youngest and two of his siblings contracting measles. The youngest is now bedridden with measles encephalitis, with the "mother" insisting she doesn't regret their decision not to vaccinate. "God has chosen" her child for "something," she says.<br /><br />Moo said they didn't vaccinate because “With my own eyes, I have seen the damage it does to kids who are perfectly normal, and then once they get it, they're not the same anymore.” Does she think her kid is going to be the same after this? He's seven and likely to spend the rest of his life dealing with some kind of fallout from this. I'd love for somebody to ask him if he regrets leaving it all in god's hands to avoid "not being the same anymore," but he'll have to survive his parents' stupidity first.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/measles-encephalitis-south-carolina-anti-vaccine-b2918500.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>]]></description>
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<category>The Living Room</category><pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2026 13:28:41 +0000</pubDate></item>
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