Octo-Moo Cluster-Fuck Thread

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I don't give a fuck if you are pissed off or not Banshee.

I'm only trying to be funny. Pardon me.

This is the 17th thread on Octomoo on this board now. Could we make this one the last? Anything else about her can just go on one of the existing threads about her.

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This is the 17th thread on Octomoo on this board now. Could we make this one the last? Anything else about her can just go on one of the existing threads about her.

What a SPLENDID idea, thank you Capt. Obvious.

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

In the Spirit of 'Son of Sam' Laws, How About a 'Mom of Octuplets' Law to Keep Loons From Funding Their Habit?

by Simon Dumenco

Published: February 09, 2009

A desolate-looking driveway leading up to a modest Southern California house -- lit at night by an AP photographer's flash and looking utterly spooky, like a crime scene. And, in a related shot, a couple dozen medical personnel clustered together, garbed in pale-blue surgical scrubs, at the Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center -- most of them grinning proudly.

For my money, those are two of the creepiest news photos of the year so far. The house belongs to the parents of the so-called Octuplet Mom -- the Whittier, Calif., woman who gave birth to six boys and two girls on Jan. 26. The babies will likely have to spend the first two months of their lives hospitalized in incubators (they were born nine weeks premature, with the smallest weighing just 1 pound, 8 ounces), but the media clearly regards the house as a sort of future Whitman's Sampler of adorableness. As for the Kaiser Permanente medical crew that posed for the maternity-ward shot, it turns out they were just a portion of the nearly 50-person team that was involved in the harrowing, insanely costly assembly-line delivery of the preemies. The hospital's decision to set up a joyful, self-congratulatory photo op now seems terribly ill-advised, given what we now know about the mother.

On the day of the birth, eager to put a positive spin on the story, Kaiser Permanente neonatalogist Dr. Mandhir Gupta declared of Octuplet Mom, "She's a very strong woman, so she probably will be able to handle all eight babies." Um, yeah, right. That was before the world learned that this single mom already has six children under the age of 8 -- a total of 14 kids. And before we learned that, jobless and apparently uninterested in marriage, she lives with her parents, who are clearly sick of her and her brood. "I'm going to be gone," Octuplet Mom's mother says she told her daughter, according to the New York Daily News, threatening to leave before the new shipment of babies comes home from the hospital. "It can't go on any longer." She told Us Weekly that her daughter was "obsessed with children" in a way that was "not normal" -- and that the only child "always blamed me for only having her. She was always upset I didn't have more." Meanwhile, Octuplet Mom's dad, a native of Iraq, is considering going back there rather than face seeing his house turned into one big Diaper Genie.

It also turns out Octuplet Mom sought sketchy fertility treatment, possibly overseas (it wasn't at Kaiser Permanente, at least). Medical ethicists are horrified at the thought that a doctor anywhere would implant eight viable embryos in any woman, let alone one with six young children (in Canada, for instance, medical guidelines generally limit embryo transfers to two -- three at the most).

But here's the sickest part of the story: This woman's poor children -- all 14 of them -- will likely have a tough time of it without a critical mass of immoral behavior by the media: namely, the showering of cash on a disturbed person. (As one Gawker commenter noted, "People can be convicted of animal cruelty for having 14 pets in their home and inadequate resources with which to take care of them.") Not only is it questionable whether Octuplet Mom can care for 14 children simultaneously, but she's chosen to bring into this world eight additional children whose risk of complications (from cerebral palsy to death) is sky-high.

You may have noticed that I've not mentioned Octuplet Mom's name in this column. The way I figure, the two publicists she's put on contract to attempt to lock down media and sponsorship deals can toil to get her name printed elsewhere. She's reportedly hoping for at least $2 million for the first formal photo op -- and she obviously intends to be famous. Word is, she sees an Oprah appearance in her future. (Octuplet Mom's unpaid "Today" show interview is sort of like a crack dealer giving out a free sample; she's getting us further hooked on her story, priming us for the coming blockbuster "reveal" of the new brood crawling around adorably, like bumper cars at an amusement park, at home.) If she's lucky, and the eight new children aren't too un-photogenically disabled, maybe she can score a TV deal with TLC, which has created an entire cottage industry around the self-exploitation of unnaturally large families, with hits such as "17 Kids and Counting" (starring a bible-thumping Arkansas man, Jim Bob Duggar, and his wife, Michelle -- pregnant virtually all of her adult life -- who home-school their children when they're not trotting them around for paid appearances at malls and such, so shoppers can stare at them like some carnival sideshow) and "Jon & Kate Plus 8" (a seemingly much less deluded, less prideful Pennsylvania couple, Jon and Kate Gosselin, with twins and unexpected IVF sextuplets).

Sadly, while there are plenty of "Son of Sam" laws on the books to prevent criminals from profiting from their crimes by selling their stories, there seem to be no "Mother of Octuplets" laws to prevent baby-obsessed crazy ladies from not only profiting from their obsession but making their children wards of the Media State -- destined for surreal "Truman Show" childhoods.

The media will certainly continue to chase this story -- aiding and abetting and rewarding the pathology of an obsessed woman who is in way over her head. That's inevitable and depressingly unavoidable.

But marketers must take pause. Let's lay down the law here: Any brand advertiser, such as traditional multiple-birth outfitter P&G (Pampers), has a moral obligation to not seek branded "placement," given the circumstances. If P&G's or Nestlé's (Gerber) or whomever's big corporate heart goes out to the octuplets, well, by all means, let those companies provide much-needed humanitarian aid in the form of (very) quietly donated goods and services. Give these children material support -- please! -- but shut up about it. In fact, any such humanitarian aid should come with a proviso: No media mentions of the brand allowed.

No matter how you slice it, it comes up BORING and TIRED.

Change the record, already.

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

I don't understand why people who earned a living working in carnival sideshows had to lose their income and livelihood because a bunch of do gooders said it was human exploitation and morally wrong. They were perfectly happy with their lifestyles and some of the earlier ones who made a wad of cash and were smart enough to invest it retired and lived it up in style, The Monkey Girl and the Snake Man were happily married for 30 or 40 years after they retired and they were happy working the side shows as were many others. How is THAT "immoral" but squatting out these fucktuplets can be exploited all day and a fortune made at it and no one seems to mind? Where are all of those do gooders now? I suppose it's ok if they grace the TV screens on shows like the "Mermaid girl", and the "Woman with Giant legs", and "The woman with the 200 lb tumor", and "Half a Ton Teen", and "The Half a Lady", and "Treeman", etc.......just as long as it isn't CALLED a sideshow.



I think that the most fair thing to do would be to DENY anyone making a profit from a "sideshow" type human occurrence unless they are of the age of consent to decide if this is what they wish. That of course would ban ALL fucktuplet shows and media coverage since they involve the exploitation of minors. Yeah, "what about the chyyldren?" Maybe these octo-kyds wouldn't WANT to be exploited on global television if they were given a choice. At the very least, ALL proceeds from any exploitation should be placed in a trust fund managed by a court appointed receivor and moomares should not be legally able to touch ONE dime of it. If that happened, I would be willing to bet that it would slow it down tremendously since they wouldn't getting any attention OR money. I doubt this octo-moo's story would continue to be in the media if she was legally unable to show the kyds or their likenesses.

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I don't understand why people who earned a living working in carnival sideshows had to lose their income and livelihood because a bunch of do gooders said it was human exploitation and morally wrong. They were perfectly happy with their lifestyles and some of the earlier ones who made a wad of cash and were smart enough to invest it retired and lived it up in style, The Monkey Girl and the Snake Man were happily married for 30 or 40 years after they retired and they were happy working the side shows as were many others. How is THAT "immoral" but squatting out these fucktuplets can be exploited all day and a fortune made at it and no one seems to mind?

I think that the most fair thing to do would be to DENY anyone making a profit from a "sideshow" type human occurrence unless they are of the age of consent to decide if this is what they wish. That of course would ban ALL fucktuplet shows and media coverage since they involve the exploitation of minors. Yeah, "what about the chyyldren?" Maybe these octo-kyds wouldn't WANT to be exploited on global television if they were given a choice. At the very least, ALL proceeds from any exploitation should be placed in a trust fund managed by a court appointed receivor and moomares should not be legally able to touch ONE dime of it. If that happened, I would be willing to bet that it would slow it down tremendously since they wouldn't getting any attention OR money. I doubt this octo-moo's story would continue to be in the media if she was legally unable to show the kyds or their likenesses.

I wish we still had freakshows...but I guess, there's Discovery.

If it is morally wrong to print the names and likenesses of children who have been abused, and it is morally wrong for people to use their freakishness to make money, then it seems to me that it's just as wrong for parents to use their freakbroods to make money for the family. It's not like most of the kids get any say, and it will probably impact their futures should they manage to escape. With the high number of once child stars who come out with tales of woe about their parent's squandering of the money they worked for, it seems like it would be in the best interests of the children to have all profits from these shows to be put into accounts than can only be drawn on for their care, or held in trust until they are 18.

"It truly is the one commonality that every designation of humans you can think of has, there's at least one asshole."
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"Jon & Kate Plus 8" (a seemingly much less deluded, less prideful Pennsylvania couple, Jon and Kate Gosselin, with twins and unexpected IVF sextuplets)

Oh, this is too much! Did this guy ever actually watch the show?

I agree about the animal cruelty aspect he's talking about, however. I could never have 14 dogs living in my home here in a suburban community. Why is it OK for someone to have 14 children?

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"Jon & Kate Plus 8" (a seemingly much less deluded, less prideful Pennsylvania couple, Jon and Kate Gosselin, with twins and unexpected IVF sextuplets)

Oh, this is too much! Did this guy ever actually watch the show?

Well, if nothing else, J&K aren't deluded about the amount of money they can make by exploiting their children's childhoods. Jackpot City.

I don't think he paid much attention to Kate....

octotwat doesn't fit into the quiverful thing like the duggars or the moo&duh+8 idiots. octotwat will NEVER be accepted by quiverfuls EVER. A single moo on welfare getting knocked up with a litter and moos with 10 kids on welfare, this is looked down on by quiverful and condemned by them. she's as good as the devil to these people.

she gives a good line about "the church" helping her with the litter, but i have to wonder, which church? the liberal christian church or catholic church will want to get county social services involved, a social worker with cps to supervise her. A fundie type church like baptist or pentecostals where the quiverfuls originate from will probably try to talk her into adopting out some of the kids to "good christian homes" that can provide a mother and a father, and will put strings on any help she gets, she'll have to attend fundie church, accept jebus, and accept the condemnation of her sin. she's fucked, no matter which kind of church she tries to "get help" from, because none of them are going to hand over a bunch of cash and let he do whatever the fuck she wants. LOL.

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she gives a good line about "the church" helping her with the litter, but i have to wonder, which church?

I'm thinking the church will end up being her last refuge.....

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poofy_puff
No matter how you slice it, it comes up BORING and TIRED.

Change the record, already.

I have to agree. This has gotten terribly old. If it's not slathered all over TV, it's slathered all over here and everywhere else on the internet.

Yes, she's crazy and needs to be locked up. Yes, she's infuriating. Yes, she needs to have her kids taken away. Now can we please, as a culture, move on?

Well everybody, I guess we should just pack up the forum. We're done here. Food stamps ain't welfare. Nope. We aren't supporting Octotwat. Food stamps are..... food stamps, not welfare. So there.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/02/nadya-suleman-w.html

Suleman had told NBC News correspondent Ann Curry in an interview that she was not receiving welfare. Furtney said Suleman didn't consider the food stamps and SSI to be welfare.

“In Nadya’s view, the money that she gets from the food stamp program ... and the resources disabilities payments she gets for her three children are not welfare," he said. "They are part of programs designed to help people with need, and she does not see that as welfare."

That's right, and bears don't shit in the woods either.

http://laist.com/2009/02/09/octuplets_mom_shows_off_babies_says.php

And also, "money is just paper, superfluous in contrast to the importance of her kids." Take THAT h8trs.

It just keeps getting better with this broodsow. She's the best show on earth right now.

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

Ok. You can call me a welfare whore.

I am on both SSI and food stamps (I'm hearing impaired.)

But at least I'm not childed and I'm also working on my art career to get me off the teat eventually. (sweatdrop)

Well, we know she's deluded......

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Ok. You can call me a welfare whore.

I am on both SSI and food stamps (I'm hearing impaired.)

But at least I'm not childed and I'm also working on my art career to get me off the teat eventually. (sweatdrop)

Banshee, did you choose to become hearing impaired? Did you purposely stand next to a 747 starting up for takeoff? Did you inject bleach into your ears on purpose to destroy your eardrums so you could collect welfare?

Because OctoWelfareWhore did just that. She purposely got herself knocked up to collect welfare.

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Banshee
Ok. You can call me a welfare whore.

I am on both SSI and food stamps (I'm hearing impaired.)

But at least I'm not childed and I'm also working on my art career to get me off the teat eventually. (sweatdrop)

Banshee, you are hearing impaired and these programs originally were designed to help people who needed the help,not those who get knocked up to collect.
You are not a welfare whore. If anything I am pissed that people like octomoo take funds away from people who really need the help.

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Ok. You can call me a welfare whore.

I am on both SSI and food stamps (I'm hearing impaired.)

But at least I'm not childed and I'm also working on my art career to get me off the teat eventually. (sweatdrop)

Banshee, did you choose to become hearing impaired? Did you purposely stand next to a 747 starting up for takeoff? Did you inject bleach into your ears on purpose to destroy your eardrums so you could collect welfare?

Because OctoWelfareWhore did just that. She purposely got herself knocked up to collect welfare.

I was born deaf, of course.

Even then, I'm still a little ashamed to be needing government aid, though it is of course very important to my survival while I try to start my independent life after escaping an unhappy family life at home.

BTW, what would happen when government finally takes welfare away from moos FOR spilling more and more kyds? Would those brainless moos actually take responsibility? Or simply end up prostituting themselves AND their own kyds? That would lead to more problems, ironically.=P

So perhaps forced sterilization would do instead, as kidlesskim herself suggested?

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Banshee
Ok. You can call me a welfare whore.

I am on both SSI and food stamps (I'm hearing impaired.)

But at least I'm not childed and I'm also working on my art career to get me off the teat eventually. (sweatdrop)

Banshee, you are hearing impaired and these programs originally were designed to help people who needed the help,not those who get knocked up to collect.
You are not a welfare whore. If anything I am pissed that people like octomoo take funds away from people who really need the help.

Ditto. You are NOT a welfare whore, don't ever think that Banshee. Contrary to popular myth, not all CF's are super well-off. We struggle too, and need help sometimes. Unfortunately, WE are the ones who get the shitty end of the fuck-stick because we haven't shat out an ass turd. You're doing something about it, be proud and for fucks' sake, use as much as you need.