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Posted by SubstanceD 
SubstanceD
1707
July 30, 2006
I hear ya, Chrissie. Don't these idiots realise that BREEDING is permanent, as well?
Re: 1707
July 30, 2006
best answet is to find a dr who is sympathetic, then ask them for a referral

http://omni.ac.uk/text/browse/mesh/D013245.html


maybe write to Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists , for advice or contact details

http://www.rcog.org.uk/resources/Public/pdf/consent3_laparoscopictubal.pdf

best i can find

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Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein
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Re: 1707
July 30, 2006
I asked my Dr. a couple years in row about getting my tubes tied. In order for him to do it, I was required to "talk to someone", ie... see a therapist. I jumped though the hoops necessary, and got my tubes tied, when I was 29 and single with zero children.

I can say that I do understand why the doctors do this. Many doctors are also doing reversals. The reason they do those, is because so many women THINK they want their tubes tied, but change their minds later. It is THOSE women who go back and bitch at the Dr about "why didn't you tell me". The doctors say.. "maybe you will change your mind", because many women do. Those women make me crazy.

I just don't understand why can a 14 year old decide TO have a baby, but a 20something year old isn't allowed to decide she doesn't want to have a baby. BTW, I'm 43 now, and haven't "changed my mind" yet.

Re: 1707
July 30, 2006
I'm 42 and have not "changed my mind" even though I've been told I would since childhood! I did get my tubal from a very progressive doctor after I made my point quite clear. It is these women, who suddenly turn to religion or only want to please that man, who ruin for those of us who truly want to remain childfree and know ourselves enough to make a decision. Women are easily guilted by religion to suddenly turn their backs on a CF lifestyle only to bleat how they need that tubal reversal. The 'Net is FULL of sites "gently" encouraging women how they need to get a reversal so they will be fulfilled through motherhood. I've rarely seen sites for men with vasectomies.
Re: 1707
August 01, 2006
I hear you! I'm two months away from 24, and have been seeking a tubal for two years now. I've also recently been denied an IUD. One doctor went as far as telling me to "Have a couple of kids first, then come back with [my] husband's (I'm not even married, although I am in a long-term, committed relationship with a wonderful CF man) permission." What the fuck!? Dropping a couple of crotch nuggets is the exact thing I'm trying to avoid. Furthermore, I fail to understand why I'd need another's permission for a procedure on MY body, nor would I change my mind based on the wishes of my partner.

Earlier this year the pill failed. I made the (obvious) choice to have an abortion. Now I'm wondering when that option will be taken away too.
Re: 1707
August 01, 2006
its always nice to talk about it with your partner, but essentially its got nothing to do with him, discuss it by all means, it is a crisis point in any relationship, if you discuss it, and you find out he wants it, then you know, if he doesnt then you know as well..


until you reach that moment, of stark staring terror, you wont know, i know, luckily it was late, and not, but i would have paid for the lot for the lot to get rid, i KNOW for a fact i am cf..coz i wouldnt have felt that terror if i wasnt. even if you lie about it to test the waters..

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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone

Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein
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Re: 1707
August 01, 2006
Sociopathic,
Actually, if your married, I think you do need your spouses permission. At least in Michigan. My current CF b/f got snipped when he was married and the Dr. made sure he got HER ok. That happened to my sister too, but that was many years ago. When she was told he needed hubbys permission, she took the form out of his hand, signed her husbands name and handed it back, and he accepted it.

I agree that if it's not their body, they have nothing to say. I think its also interesting that a women can oops her husband and she doesn't need a permission slip to GET pregnant... just NOT to get pregnant. How fucked up is that? In the future.. make sure the doctors know your single, that way they won't need a permission slip.
Re: 1707
August 01, 2006
It bothers me big time how women STILL have to get permission from the Almighty Husband for a tubal ligation. I have heard that there are some instances where a married man must do the same for a vasectomy. However, that is very rare. It is easier for a man to get the Big V without hassles from the medical community. Women's bodies are still now considered their own.
Re: 1707
August 01, 2006
Chrissie_b, when I was a CHILD, I always knew I never wanted kids. You're not too young to know this. I hated baybee dolls and always said, "I'm NEVER having kids!!!" And of course, everyone said, "You'll change your mind." Never did. I'm 39 now.

As far as permanent birth control, good luck. Having been denied a tubal several times, I always relied on the pill and there's always the good old Women's Clinic should that fail!
GreenGrass
Re: 1707
August 01, 2006
india_darshan Wrote:
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> It bothers me big time how women STILL have to get
> permission from the Almighty Husband for a tubal
> ligation. I have heard that there are some
> instances where a married man must do the same for
> a vasectomy. However, that is very rare. It is
> easier for a man to get the Big V without hassles
> from the medical community. Women's bodies are
> still now considered their own.

I noticed that if you go to the Planned Parenthood site (which claims to be an advocate for women's reproductive choice), you will notice a big difference in how tubals are marketed versus vasectomies. The info about tubals has a big list of reasons NOT to have a tubal, versus the vasectomy info, which just says make sure you don't want kids and get a consult the day before and you'll be OK.

It's ridiculous how hard it is to get sterilization if you are a woman - my husband doesn't believe me. I am almost 30 and he is pushing 50. I told him that his odds of getting sterilized are about 100X better than mine, not to mention my insurance won't even cover Essure because they say it's a "surgical" procedure (which it is not).

I hate the pill and fear it will be the death of me. It makes me feel like absolute crap. Of course, to the baybee-loving medical community it is better to let a woman take the pill and risk blood clots than provide a tubal to someone who really knows they don't want kids. What a joke.
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