Re: Pick One; Pro-Choice or Pro-Life. You can't have it both ways June 01, 2011 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 423 |
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kidlesskim
I don't know why you are picking on me because like I said, I don't see how someone can make it to SIX MONTHS and not know. Like you said, you were only 17 weeks. Also, the being on the pill AND using condoms, a pregnancy test that showed up negative when you are over 3 months along, and being COMPLETELY asymptomatic is a fucking medical anomaly. I am glad that you caught it in time and am glad that late term abortions are available, but your case is a rare exception unless you believe all of those moo-cunts on the "I didn't know I was inpig" shows whose first clue was when they went into labor. Perhaps the only ones with these medical anomalies to speak up are the loaf shitters, I really don't know.
ONE more time:I AM FOR LATE TERM ABORTIONS. I just don't personally like it when they are elective and they have known they were inpig since week 5.
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Where the fuck is Zatoth? This is her favorite subject!
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Number one is logical if you think about it. Contraception does fail. However, when I see someone who has had several abortions I ask if she is unlucky or failing to use it properly. Abortion is a mighty expensive means of birth control.
Can I see the second thing happening? Yup...in the same way I see news every day of some person dying after plastic surgery and you find out the doctor is not qualified...but he sat through a weekend symposium on reconstructive surgery, and he is a doctor. Some will jeopardize everything if the price is right though this is not the norm.
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Re: Pick One; Pro-Choice or Pro-Life. You can't have it both ways June 03, 2011 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 808 |
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yurble
JayJay - I guess pro-population-control is the best label for me, because I am in favor of limiting the choice to breed, as Zzelda points out. I think that we need to consider our species as a whole, as well as the environment that we live in, and legislate our breeding so that we don't destroy everything. The good of the many--in this case, everyone--should outweigh the desires of some. I used to have a more live-and-let-live approach to breeding but that was when I was thinking of it in isolation (who am I to tell someone else what to do?). When I consider it within the context of our limited resources, it quickly becomes clear that rampant breeding is completely unethical, and even breeding once is quite ethically dubious because you do so knowing that other people are overbreeding.
I wouldn't mind if we became extinct as a species, but I wouldn't classify myself as anti-natalist because my views on humans stem more from environmental concern than the ethical position that all life leads to death and suffering and should therefore be avoided. Also, I'm pretty neutral on other species, or even in favor of saving them.
Re: Pick One; Pro-Choice or Pro-Life. You can't have it both ways June 03, 2011 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,434 |
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JayJay, interesting, I hadn't thought about it from the sovereignty angle. I find consent an interesting question, although my thinking has focused on human systems: I sometimes wonder to what extent humans can be legitimately considered guilty of violating allegiances which were inherited with birth rather than deliberately accepted (examples: apostasy in those who were born into the religion, and treason committed by someone who acquired citizenship through birth).
I hadn't realized that there were several different approaches to anti-natalism. I think it's an interesting philosophy, although it isn't mine. Of course, I'm always in favor of people actually thinking about philosophical issues--there seems to be precious little of that in the world.
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Miss_Hannigan
Where the fuck is Zatoth? This is her favorite subject!
Probably at a heavy metal concert or art class or something.
I see this. I dunno why y'all feel the need to invoke my name.
I don't get it, either.