"abortion is never medically necessary to save the life of the mother" October 19, 2012 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,432 |
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Rep. Joe Walsh, R-Ill., said a debate last night that he is against abortion “without exception,†even in cases of rape, incest, and when the life of the mother is in danger. When asked by reporters if he means that it’s never medically necessary to save a pregnant woman’s life, Walsh said “absolutely.â€
“With modern technology and science, you can’t find one instance,†he said. “… There is no such exception as life of the mother, and as far as health of the mother, same thing.â€
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Two percent of ectopic pregnancies occur in the ovary, cervix, or are intraabdominal. Transvaginal ultrasound examination is usually able to detect a cervical pregnancy. An ovarian pregnancy is differentiated from a tubal pregnancy by the Spiegelberg criteria.[5]
While a fetus of ectopic pregnancy is typically not viable, very rarely, a live baby has been delivered from an abdominal pregnancy. In such a situation the placenta sits on the intraabdominal organs or the peritoneum and has found sufficient blood supply. This is generally bowel or mesentery, but other sites, such as the renal (kidney), liver or hepatic (liver) artery or even aorta have been described. Support to near viability has occasionally been described, but even in third world countries, the diagnosis is most commonly made at 16 to 20 weeks gestation. Such a fetus would have to be delivered by laparotomy. Maternal morbidity and mortality from extrauterine pregnancy are high as attempts to remove the placenta from the organs to which it is attached usually lead to uncontrollable bleeding from the attachment site. If the organ to which the placenta is attached is removable, such as a section of bowel, then the placenta should be removed together with that organ. This is such a rare occurrence that true data are unavailable and reliance must be made on anecdotal reports.[6][7][8] However, the vast majority of abdominal pregnancies require intervention well before fetal viability because of the risk of hemorrhage.
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yurble
From rape not causing pregnancy it is a small step to saying that women's lives are never endangered by pregnancy.Quote
In a far-fetched way, this reminds me of one of the few times John Rosemond screwed up, last December: A 14-year-old girl was planning to have sex with her boyfriend and the mother wasn't sure what to do. He wrote:
"By the way, the age of sexual consent in every U.S. state is between 16 and 18. Mom should point that out and assure the girl that she is not shy about pressing charges against the boy. When the girl tells him that - and she will - he will vanish.
(I have to wonder about that - is it still statutory rape when she's 14 and he's 15? If not, there's a problem.)
"Lastly, dad is not mentioned by either mom or the therapist. Maybe he's not in the home, but if he's available, then he needs to sit down with his daughter and tell her how much he loves her and how important it will be to him that he walk a virgin to the altar, not to mention how important it will be to her husband."
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I mean, HONESTLY! What makes Rosemond think that THIS father - if he's around at all, which I doubt - is that different from the mother? Why WOULD he try to give a speech like that to his daughter?
Rosemond doesn't seem to grasp what people have known for centuries; you can make a girl marry while she's still a virgin - that is, in her teens or earlier, OR you can make her marry at the age when pregnancy is least likely to kill her - that is, AFTER she turns 20. Not both. However, most cultures chose the former until the 20th century or so. And, for those who don't know, teen pregnancy is dangerous for the baby as well. (Of course, one reason it was hard for girls to stay virgins in past centuries was that rich unmarried women, especially, were supposed to stay indoors except to go to church, and any unmarried woman - rich or not - who didn't have a chaperone was practically legally fair game for rape.)
Most parents born after 1970 (aside from the most religious ones) do NOT expect daughters to marry at 20 or wait until 30 to have sex if they can't find anyone to marry - and how many men want to marry 30-year-old virgins??
Bottom line is: If parents aren't that religious, kids know that. Therefore, the best such parents can do, IF the teens are over the age of consent, is to play the money card instead - that is: "As long as you're living under my roof and I'm paying the bills, I expect you to do as I say. Even if you don't, rest assured I'm not paying for birth control, an abortion, or the thousands of dollars' worth of baby expenses. YOU will do that."
With any luck, that will work at least until the kid moves out for good - even if the parent is still paying a few bills.
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Personally, I believe (although I am not backed by any trained doctors) that a blow from a shovel to the head is not dangerous, and is in fact a damn good way to improve the minds of people like Joe Walsh. I challenge anyone to come up with a single paper studying the effects of shovels and Joe Walsh's head which disproves my theory.
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Rep. Joe Walsh, R-Ill., said a debate last night that he is against abortion “without exception,†even in cases of rape, incest, and when the life of the mother is in danger. When asked by reporters if he means that it’s never medically necessary to save a pregnant woman’s life, Walsh said “absolutely.â€
“With modern technology and science, you can’t find one instance,†he said. “… There is no such exception as life of the mother, and as far as health of the mother, same thing.â€
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Dear Mr Joe Walsh,
Are you a doctor? No? Are you a woman seeking reproductive info? No? Then kindly butt the fuck out.
I second/third implanting a uterus in him, get him pregnant and leaving him to deal with it. Oh, and maybe dumping him in an area where woman are treated like scum, too.
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