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"Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)

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"Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 28, 2011
http://www.scottcounseling.com/wordpress/is-my-child-becoming-a-serial-killer/2009/06/12/


After a serial or spree killer is caught the parents typically claim they had NO IDEA their sweet little boy was capable of such a thing. Yet, here's an article by a parenting counselor that CLEARLY indicates there ARE warning signs and after having read them I don't see how they could go unnoticed by the parents. In addition to that, it appears most of the "signs" have been CAUSED (or allowed to happen) by that very same parent! I believe, with few exceptions, when a kid goes on a spree killing or becomes a serial killer the parents should be prosecuted for either being accomplices to the crimes or for conspiracy and locked up.mob with pitchforks chasing anothermob



"For the most violent of criminals, there are warning signs that often start in childhood. Parents who come from a family history of mental health issues, violence, abuse and drug abuse need to be extra cautious. BullSHIT! If they have THIS type of history then they shouldn't shit or sire a loaf AT ALL, ever.! To do so is criminal, IMHO.

The list below presents the most common traits serial killers have exhibited over history.

1) Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.
2) Serial killers hate their parents.
3) Serial Killers tend to be intelligent, high IQ’s and “street smart.”
4) Serial killers tend to come from unstable or dysfunctional families.
5) Serial killers usually come from single parent homes, abandoned by the father and raised by an aggressive mother.
6) A serial killer’s family often has a history criminal, psychiatric and drug-abusing legacy.
7) Serial killers have a history of doing poorly in school. They have trouble keeping a job and often work as unskilled laborers.
8) Many serial killers were abused as children. This abuse included, physically, sexual and emotional abuse. Often this abuse has come at the hands of another family member.
9) While growing up, many serial killers spent time in mental health facilities as and have records of early psychological problems.
10) Serial killers often began their practice by tormenting small creatures or animals.
11) Serial killers have high rates of attempted suicide.
12) From an early age, many serial killers have shown an interest in pornography. This interest was often intensely and often included sadomasochistic pornography.
13) More than 60 percent of serial killers are bedwetters- beyond the age of 12.
14) Many serial killers are obsessed with fire starting tactics and pyromaniac techniques.


If your child is displaying anyone of these characteristics, contact a Parenting Counselor"



shrug Instead of contacting a counselor and doing something about their little monster, they will just ignore the behavior, make excuses, and pretend everything is honky-fucking-dory. Then, after he maims and kills a bunch of innocent people they start up with the, "But he was such a GOOD boy!" bullshit. I have NEVER bought it when they claim they knew nothing of his violent nature and feign complete surprise when he randomly murders people or opens fire in a crowd of people.

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 28, 2011
All the parents think, "My DNA replicant would NEVER do thaaaat!" Because that would be admitting they are colossal fuck-ups.

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Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 28, 2011
I love how so many Moos are in total denial about their little psychopaths when often times they are the sole reason their kids are so crazy. However, I think modern serial killer brats will not have come from aggressive homes nearly as much as they've come from homes with no discipline, no boundaries,and basically never learning that they don't always get what they want. So rather than abuse cultivating a murderous child, neglect may do the same thing. It can create a child who only cares about their own needs, has absolutely no empathy, doesn't understand the difference between right and wrong...totally textbook anti-social personality.

Moos will rationalize and justify their kids' behavior no matter what, so it's often hard to make them understand how dangerous their little mistakes really are. Even if the kid kills animals, hurts other kids beyond typical slapping and kicking, tries to burn down someone's house, molests younger and more defenseless kids, gets caught in school with a knife or some other weapon. It'll always be someone else's fault because Mommy is never ever to blame for the way her child turns out. It's the fault of his father for leaving, or the media for its violent video games, artificial dyes in food, gluten allergies, or any other scapegoat Moo can latch on to.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 28, 2011
The McDonald triad is usually the trifecta in diagnosing a psychopath: bedwetting, firestarting and animal abuse.

Sounds like most modern boys.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
After watching "Deadly Women", I think the percentage of women serial killers is incorrect. I think it is more, probably closer to 20%. My logic is because for decades, even centuries, women were considered the "kinder" gender and often were considered incapable of murder, let alone spree or serial killing. I think women still get away with it more often than men.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
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After watching "Deadly Women", I think the percentage of women serial killers is incorrect. I think it is more, probably closer to 20%. My logic is because for decades, even centuries, women were considered the "kinder" gender and often were considered incapable of murder, let alone spree or serial killing. I think women still get away with it more often than men.

And the fact that moos tend to be exempt from following any of the rules and laws of our soceity and don't have to suffer consequences for breaking such rules because after all, motherhood=sainthood.

JD
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
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zatoth
After watching "Deadly Women", I think the percentage of women serial killers is incorrect. I think it is more, probably closer to 20%. My logic is because for decades, even centuries, women were considered the "kinder" gender and often were considered incapable of murder, let alone spree or serial killing. I think women still get away with it more often than men.

Probably higher than that....they never shot or stabbed. Over the years they got a lot of mileage out of arsenic. And there are probably way more who just were never caught.

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I want to pick up a bus full of unruly kids and feed them gummi bears and crack, then turn them loose in Hobby Lobby to ransack the place. They will all be wearing T shirts that say "You Could Have Prevented This."
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
Quite a few of them convince others, mostly men, to do the "dirty work". But how many times do one of these geriatric home health care nurses turn out to be an angel of death? And you are right-mothers get off as the suffering parent. There's quite a few that targeted their children. Any time one of these moos starts with "I'm a mom, so I care more" or "motherhood makes you a better person" bring up "Deadly Women" and mention the mom who Told her kids to stay in a burning house or the mother who poisoned her entire family after he husband lost his job.

And arsenic is used so much, I am considering buying stock in Extermination chemical companies.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
They just found a body here stuffed with corn flakes.

Police believe it's a cereal killer...

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Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
"Many serial killers were abused as children. This abuse included, physically, sexual and emotional abuse. Often this abuse has come at the hands of another family member."

So putting two and two together, are we to understand that all this soft-touch, talk-it-out, 'naughty step' business of non-discipline parenting is going to put an end to serial killing?

Hah.

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Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
My suspicion is that women are more than 10% of serial killers too. Along with the "angel of death" scenario in nursing homes, some women successfully blamed crib/cot death for a number of their children dying when in fact they murdered the children. (The authorities are much more aware of this possibility now and actively investigate supposed SIDS deaths, hence the ongoing upswing in Forgotten-in-a-Hot-Car Syndrome.)
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
Marybeth Tinning killed nine of her babies before finally getting caught (she convinced all that she had some genetic disorder that caused SIDS but when her adopted kid died the same way it was her downfall.) There were a couple of others who played the SIDS card multiple times, but gambled and lost. I forget their names. Susan Smith found some rich cock, but he did not want her kids (really, he did not want her anymore, but the kids were a convenient excuse.)

All had one gene in common, the attention whore gene. All of the "SIDS" moms loved the preggo attention and loved the attention they got when a kid died. They did not like NOT being the center of attention.

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I want to pick up a bus full of unruly kids and feed them gummi bears and crack, then turn them loose in Hobby Lobby to ransack the place. They will all be wearing T shirts that say "You Could Have Prevented This."
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
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zatoth
After watching "Deadly Women", I think the percentage of women serial killers is incorrect. I think it is more, probably closer to 20%. My logic is because for decades, even centuries, women were considered the "kinder" gender and often were considered incapable of murder, let alone spree or serial killing. I think women still get away with it more often than men.

Probably higher than that....they never shot or stabbed. Over the years they got a lot of mileage out of arsenic. And there are probably way more who just were never caught.

I had to research this for work. Multiple poisonings of family members were surprisingly common.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/women/index.html

Also, there have been both male and female nurses who kill patients in "mercy" killings.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 29, 2011
Waneta Hoyt is another SIDS serial killer - she smothered five of her six kids and it was ruled that SIDS was the cause. However, having two loaves die of SIDS is pretty much astronomical, so why it took five of them dying for people to get suspicious is beyond me. I read a more in-depth article on her a long time ago and it said she was very distant from her kids (as in she'd hold them at arm's length rather than cradle them close to her body) and she just loved when the nurses would shower her and her shiny new loaf with attention. I think it was the nurses who became wary of the bitch killing her kids, but their words didn't mean much of anything due to their rank in the hospital.

I guess these SIDS addict Moos aren't considered serial killers because they're women, and women obviously can never be murderers. And because they're mothers, and as we all know, mothers would never kill their own babies. smile rolling left righteyes2 Just because someone doesn't shoot or stab a whole bunch of people doesn't mean they aren't serial killers.
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They just found a body here stuffed with corn flakes.

Police believe it's a cereal killer...
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If you have to ask "Is my kid going to be a serial killer?" he/she probably IS!
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
August 30, 2011
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Waneta Hoyt is another SIDS serial killer - she smothered five of her six kids and it was ruled that SIDS was the cause. However, having two loaves die of SIDS is pretty much astronomical, so why it took five of them dying for people to get suspicious is beyond me. I read a more in-depth article on her a long time ago and it said she was very distant from her kids (as in she'd hold them at arm's length rather than cradle them close to her body) and she just loved when the nurses would shower her and her shiny new loaf with attention. I think it was the nurses who became wary of the bitch killing her kids, but their words didn't mean much of anything due to their rank in the hospital.

I guess these SIDS addict Moos aren't considered serial killers because they're women, and women obviously can never be murderers. And because they're mothers, and as we all know, mothers would never kill their own babies. smile rolling left righteyes2 Just because someone doesn't shoot or stab a whole bunch of people doesn't mean they aren't serial killers.

Waneta was the other one I was thinking of. And she was also addicted to the attention.

Marybeth Tinning's first baby died of a heart infection...she would be the only one to die of natural causes. She got addicted to the attention of losing a baby, and blew through a lot of that drug before finally getting caught.

Now that the docs are onto SIDS we have the epidemic of Lil Sizzlers.

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I want to pick up a bus full of unruly kids and feed them gummi bears and crack, then turn them loose in Hobby Lobby to ransack the place. They will all be wearing T shirts that say "You Could Have Prevented This."
Miss Hannigan said:

All the parents think, "My DNA replicant would NEVER do thaaaat!" Because that would be admitting they are colossal fuck-ups.
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Yes and no.

That is, a parent can do everything right and STILL have the kid grow up to be a criminal, if not a serial killer. This terrifies many a parent, who wants to be in control every minute.

The trouble often lies with the overly defensive parent who assumes that outsiders who bring complaints about the kid are somehow criticizing the PARENT. No, we're not. Not unless there's proof the parent is to blame. In other words, EVERYONE is born with free will, and parents need to acknowledge that their kids are going to exercise that free will, time and again. Just give the adult the benefit of the doubt. That is, punish first and talk later - chances are, you'll have stopped the kid from starting a string of lies than if you'd tried talking first.
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http://www.scottcounseling.com/wordpress/is-my-child-becoming-a-serial-killer/2009/06/12/

The list below presents the most common traits serial killers have exhibited over history.

1) Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.
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14) Many serial killers are obsessed with fire starting tactics and pyromaniac techniques.


If your child is displaying anyone of these characteristics, contact a Parenting Counselor"

I read the list and I must say I'm concerned with myself. I am 43 years old but I scored11/14.

My grades were poor until I was tested with ADHD and put in advanced classes and was allowed out of certain classes by taking college classes for dual credit of graduation from HS & towards my degree (12/14?). Now I have a degree in Computer Business Administration and was a Mensa member as well as Phi Theta Kappa.

I was not a bed wetter. I was sexually and verbally abused while growing up. I was born with foot & leg problems making me less active than others hence overweight, had few friends, and was considered a loaner.

Because of my intelligence and free thinking I was accused of being satanist. I never sacrificed any animals, nor worshiped the devil. I was a Roman Catholic that burned out from going to Catholic school every day for years until my parents divorced, and we couldn't afford private schools anymore.

I'm a man, and I loved porn as a youth, and was into the kinkier things, but not torturing or molesting anyone or animals. My parents were divorced, and I never saw them love each other; holding hands, kissing, etc. I became a sex addict to fill in the lost emotions of my childhood.

I love pyrotechnics (fireworks), fire, and anything that goes boom or bang, but I never set anyone or any houses or property on fire. We had an abandoned parcel that was supposed to be construction property for more houses and another apartment behind the apartments that I lived in and we would regularly go back there and have bon fires, but being a boy scout we kept it safe and under control.

I collected weapons from an early age; Knives, bow and arrows, spears, swords, and when of age and away from Illinois, guns. I've never shot anyone, stabbed, or even hurt anyone with any of them. I did place high in competition with the bow during my childhood.

I've killed animals before with little to no regrets. I have livestock and have had to dispatch other animals that have killed or tried to kill my animals. I have never shot a known house pet (dog) even after one killed 4 chickens in 2 nights and telling the owner did nothing. I let animal control get them, and had the owner threaten me thinking I killed them. When he did get them back, they never ran loose again. Did I want to kill them? Yes, but I didn't.

So should I worry that I am a closet case Serial or psycho killer about to burst? Remember, going to the shrink would cause me to be admitted for observation, put on suicide watch, I would AUTOMATICALLY loose my rights to own any weapons, no more hunting, my name would be on multiple lists, treated differently if pulled over, and I would have a permanent record saying I'm crazy.

Do it to a child that has few or no friends and it gets out that you were in a psych ward they would tease you even more. Many times taking them to the point of trying to commit suicide. Kids lives are hard enough. If already knocked down do they need to get hit harder?

My conspiracy theory is that all the chemicals, media, video games that we take in, as well as ll the politically correct BS we have to put up with make those feeble mind crack..

Could I happen to me? What do you think?
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
July 23, 2012
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kidlesskim
http://www.scottcounseling.com/wordpress/is-my-child-becoming-a-serial-killer/2009/06/12/

The list below presents the most common traits serial killers have exhibited over history.

1) Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.
....
14) Many serial killers are obsessed with fire starting tactics and pyromaniac techniques.


If your child is displaying anyone of these characteristics, contact a Parenting Counselor"

I read the list and I must say I'm concerned with myself. I am 43 years old but I scored11/14.

My grades were poor until I was tested with ADHD and put in advanced classes and was allowed out of certain classes by taking college classes for dual credit of graduation from HS & towards my degree (12/14?). Now I have a degree in Computer Business Administration and was a Mensa member as well as Phi Theta Kappa.

I was not a bed wetter. I was sexually and verbally abused while growing up. I was born with foot & leg problems making me less active than others hence overweight, had few friends, and was considered a loaner.

Because of my intelligence and free thinking I was accused of being satanist. I never sacrificed any animals, nor worshiped the devil. I was a Roman Catholic that burned out from going to Catholic school every day for years until my parents divorced, and we couldn't afford private schools anymore.

I'm a man, and I loved porn as a youth, and was into the kinkier things, but not torturing or molesting anyone or animals. My parents were divorced, and I never saw them love each other; holding hands, kissing, etc. I became a sex addict to fill in the lost emotions of my childhood.

I love pyrotechnics (fireworks), fire, and anything that goes boom or bang, but I never set anyone or any houses or property on fire. We had an abandoned parcel that was supposed to be construction property for more houses and another apartment behind the apartments that I lived in and we would regularly go back there and have bon fires, but being a boy scout we kept it safe and under control.

I collected weapons from an early age; Knives, bow and arrows, spears, swords, and when of age and away from Illinois, guns. I've never shot anyone, stabbed, or even hurt anyone with any of them. I did place high in competition with the bow during my childhood.

I've killed animals before with little to no regrets. I have livestock and have had to dispatch other animals that have killed or tried to kill my animals. I have never shot a known house pet (dog) even after one killed 4 chickens in 2 nights and telling the owner did nothing. I let animal control get them, and had the owner threaten me thinking I killed them. When he did get them back, they never ran loose again. Did I want to kill them? Yes, but I didn't.

So should I worry that I am a closet case Serial or psycho killer about to burst? Remember, going to the shrink would cause me to be admitted for observation, put on suicide watch, I would AUTOMATICALLY loose my rights to own any weapons, no more hunting, my name would be on multiple lists, treated differently if pulled over, and I would have a permanent record saying I'm crazy.

Do it to a child that has few or no friends and it gets out that you were in a psych ward they would tease you even more. Many times taking them to the point of trying to commit suicide. Kids lives are hard enough. If already knocked down do they need to get hit harder?

My conspiracy theory is that all the chemicals, media, video games that we take in, as well as ll the politically correct BS we have to put up with make those feeble mind crack..

Could I happen to me? What do you think?


I'd like to point out that you know right from wrong. I will also point out that there is a HUGE difference between farming and hunting for food and setting pets on fire just because you can. You also never set your apartment building on fire just for laughs. If any child is doing any of the things I mentioned then yes, he should be thrown into a psych ward. From your description I don't think you're going to randomly go ballistic on the world at large, no matter how tempting that is. Believe me, I've often wanted to and can totally sympathize with anyone who's considered it. The criteria for being thrown into a psych ward is very clear. You have to be a danger to self or others. Setting fires and torturing animals is a prelude to something darker than most people can understand. For that reason alone I have to say that any kid torturing pets or setting fires needs to be locked up. I do disagree with a few points on that list.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
July 23, 2012
I have a high number of those "serial-killer traits" exept I am not violent, did not show an interest in porn (being PSO is only for the money - I am NOT interested in it for any recreational purposes) I have never harmed another living thing, including animals or humans. In fact, I am one of the least violent people that I know.

I also have a conscience, I am not a narcissist, and understand the difference between right and wrong. Taking a life would be a devastating thing to me, even killing an animal by accident would haunt me. Even stealing something would hurt my conscience beyond believe, so therefore I do not steal.

My moo was horrible to me, my father abandoned us both when I was a loaf and I was raped by a famblee member. I was quiet and introverted and because of my mental illness, I've had trouble keeping several jobs - except for the one I have now. I have spent time in mental facilities throughout my young adult life. I also take psych meds, although I have never abused drugs or alcohol in my adult years. The worst thing I ever did was smoke a bit of pot, and I quit that in my early 20s.

I guess I'm fortunate because I don't have much of an anger problem, I don't feel entitled to harm others because my life was in the shitter for the most part, and I don't take enjoyment in the sadistical act of harming someone else or taking a life. Those things were never even in my radar.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
July 23, 2012
I think that the reason for which women aren't considered serial killer while men are, is because one of the leading tract of serial killers is that they kill people they don't know. Serial killers kill people at random as long as they fill some criteria (ie: blonde girls), and that they need to *kill*.

Women who kills "serially", usually kill people close to them (husbands, children) and killing is a by-product of something else. They kill their children because of the attention they get, not because they want to kill or take pleasure from killing. Killing is a by-product of the fact that they want the attention. Also, there is no "profiling" of their victim. They don't kill all babies because they are babies, they kill their own babies because they want to play martyr.
Since both:
1. Killing "random" people who fall in some criteria
and
2. The murder must be the focus part of the business
are usually considered Serial Killer traits, those women don't fall neatly in the category.

In short, I think it is a matter of definition.

Also, I have know a serial killer in making. He was a boy in my school. Youth Skizophrenia, properly diagnosed.
He set papers on fire in the bathrooms. He tried to throw one of our classmates down the chute of the stairs. He threatened to cut people with scissors.
When he was "normal" he was nice. And he was breathakiling beautiful for a young boy (10 years old).
But he was crazy.

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“I was talking about children that have not been properly house-trained. Left to their own impulses and indulged by doting or careless parents almost all children are yahoos. Loud, selfish, cruel, unaffectionate, jealous, perpetually striving for attention, empty-headed, for ever prating or if words fail them simply bawling, their voices grown huge from daily practice: the very worst company in the world. But what I dislike even more than the natural child is the affected child, the hulking oaf of seven or eight that skips heavily about with her hands dangling in front of her -- a little squirrel or bunny-rabbit -- and prattling away in a baby's voice.”


― Patrick O'Brian, The Truelove


lib'-er-ty: the freedom given to you to make the wrong decision, based on the reasoned belief that you will normally make the right one.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
July 23, 2012
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kidlesskim
http://www.scottcounseling.com/wordpress/is-my-child-becoming-a-serial-killer/2009/06/12/

The list below presents the most common traits serial killers have exhibited over history.

1) Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.
....
14) Many serial killers are obsessed with fire starting tactics and pyromaniac techniques.


If your child is displaying anyone of these characteristics, contact a Parenting Counselor"

I read the list and I must say I'm concerned with myself. I am 43 years old but I scored11/14.

My grades were poor until I was tested with ADHD and put in advanced classes and was allowed out of certain classes by taking college classes for dual credit of graduation from HS & towards my degree (12/14?). Now I have a degree in Computer Business Administration and was a Mensa member as well as Phi Theta Kappa.

I was not a bed wetter. I was sexually and verbally abused while growing up. I was born with foot & leg problems making me less active than others hence overweight, had few friends, and was considered a loaner.

Because of my intelligence and free thinking I was accused of being satanist. I never sacrificed any animals, nor worshiped the devil. I was a Roman Catholic that burned out from going to Catholic school every day for years until my parents divorced, and we couldn't afford private schools anymore.

I'm a man, and I loved porn as a youth, and was into the kinkier things, but not torturing or molesting anyone or animals. My parents were divorced, and I never saw them love each other; holding hands, kissing, etc. I became a sex addict to fill in the lost emotions of my childhood.

I love pyrotechnics (fireworks), fire, and anything that goes boom or bang, but I never set anyone or any houses or property on fire. We had an abandoned parcel that was supposed to be construction property for more houses and another apartment behind the apartments that I lived in and we would regularly go back there and have bon fires, but being a boy scout we kept it safe and under control.

I collected weapons from an early age; Knives, bow and arrows, spears, swords, and when of age and away from Illinois, guns. I've never shot anyone, stabbed, or even hurt anyone with any of them. I did place high in competition with the bow during my childhood.

I've killed animals before with little to no regrets. I have livestock and have had to dispatch other animals that have killed or tried to kill my animals. I have never shot a known house pet (dog) even after one killed 4 chickens in 2 nights and telling the owner did nothing. I let animal control get them, and had the owner threaten me thinking I killed them. When he did get them back, they never ran loose again. Did I want to kill them? Yes, but I didn't.

So should I worry that I am a closet case Serial or psycho killer about to burst? Remember, going to the shrink would cause me to be admitted for observation, put on suicide watch, I would AUTOMATICALLY loose my rights to own any weapons, no more hunting, my name would be on multiple lists, treated differently if pulled over, and I would have a permanent record saying I'm crazy.

Do it to a child that has few or no friends and it gets out that you were in a psych ward they would tease you even more. Many times taking them to the point of trying to commit suicide. Kids lives are hard enough. If already knocked down do they need to get hit harder?

My conspiracy theory is that all the chemicals, media, video games that we take in, as well as ll the politically correct BS we have to put up with make those feeble mind crack..

Could I happen to me? What do you think?


My armchair psychological assessment of you, as you have presented the facts as known to you, is you are NOT serial killer material. First of all, you are AWARE of your "faults", and serial killers don't generally feel anything is "wrong" with them. Secondly, you are aware of right and wrong, and third, you are too old to have not already acted on anything serial killer related since the onset of serial killer related activity would have started two decades ago. Perhaps you may be troubled by things in your past, but you can not worry you are a killer, IMHO.

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I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
July 23, 2012
"Remember, going to the shrink would cause me to be admitted for observation, put on suicide watch, I would AUTOMATICALLY loose my rights to own any weapons, no more hunting, my name would be on multiple lists, treated differently if pulled over, and I would have a permanent record saying I'm crazy."


unless you are living in a kurt vonnegut novel, this will not happen. and no, you do not sound like a serial killer - you sound like a classic nerd growing up - like i was. i was a loner growing up, got bad grades in school until they figured out i was bright but bored, and put me in a TAG (talented & gifted program); i now have a masters degree and qualify for mensa (IQ of 145); mr. minkoff was also a loner with bad grades who was obsessed with pyrotechnics as a kid and " blew stuff up real good" on a regular basis. we are not serial killers either.

many, many people have gotten help, and have been hospitalized and are doing much better without winding up on any list. i should know - i am one of them; i have seen a shrink for 10 years,am on anti-depressants, been hospitalized (suicide attempt) and i am not on any list. people have many reasons for seeking help; i read a report that said after 9/11 therapists saw a huge jump in people coming in to talk because they felt so hopeless and out of control. if every one of those people were automatically put under observation the hospitals would be overflowing. unless you walk into a therapist's office with a weapon, threaten to kill yourself, or go in ranting that your dog told you to go on a shooting spree, you will NOT be admitted to a hospital.

i hope fear will not hold you back; if you think you need help then you should get some. there is nothing wrong with admitting you need help talking through some anxieties. after all, if you had a broken arm you wouldn't try to set it yourself, right?

let us know how it goes.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
July 23, 2012
No worries - looking at this list again, I see quite a few apply to me as well (about half; would have been 8/14 except I don't know if I'd be considered intelligent. I think I'm average). Hell, I have felt murderous rage toward some people and did almost snap and hurt those people, but I somehow kept shit under control. It takes a lot to make me that angry, though. A lot. I know there's something wrong with my head, but I know I'm not a budding serial killer.

I came from a dysfunctional, single-parent home where I was emotionally and verbally abused a lot (I still am), did lousy in school originally because I just didn't want to do the work (but I was in advanced classes for a bit), and hey, I hate my mother. I guess I was into pornographic things as a kid? If you count drawing women in skimpy outfits at age 8 as being "pornographic." I think it was more a large curiosity about the human body for me. I also love lighting shit on fire and I have a major interest in abnormal psychology and serial killers. And I still can't hold down a job because I admit I develop problems with authority (bosses, teachers, etc.) when they get bitchy with me. Once they talk down to me like I'm a retarded child, I quit listening, period. Or I find ways to sabotage things - like in my old call center job, I hated my boss and I'd take the cassettes we'd use to record calls and cut the film in some of them. smiling smiley

However, I've also never killed any animals intentionally, never been to a shrink, never wet the bed (at least during an age where I have memories from), never been in trouble with the law (nor have my relatives). I also know right from wrong.

Let me put it this way, Skeptic - if you can look at this list and feel worry/concern for yourself, then this list does not apply to you. A genuine killer would not see how these signs relate to them. If you haven't killed someone intentionally yet, then I'd say you don't need to worry about being a potential killer. And try not to worry about the animals thing - most folks who slaughter livestock have to learn to be de-sensitized to killing those animals or they'd never eat/make a living. Same goes with killing something that is threatening your animals.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
July 23, 2012
A lot also boils down to personal choice. These lost souls also choose to do evil. (like the colorado shooter is evil). foo on the insanity plea: he should be executed..

Choice. That is all it is, choice. We cannot help the hand we are dealt in life: how we play it makes the difference.

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children
and I defy anyone to prove me wrong:

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

If I want to hear the pitter-patter of little feet I'll put shoes on my pets.

Mankind and its needs (wants) are like unto a black hole. It devours all available resources and it never is full: it merely grows larger and demands more.

Definition of 'wealthy': Anyone who makes more/has more than you do.

Someone pointed out that I'm a realist. And all along I thought I was just a pessimist crossed with a cynic.

Entitlement, thy name is mooooooooooooooo

"Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen.
Add to this that, many of those who refuse or are unable to prove they are
citizens, will receive free insurance paid for by those who are.""

I am confused enough already. I do not need outside help.
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