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"Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)

Posted by kidlesskim 
I have said a thousand times that I believe my step son is going to be a serial killer. I have went to counselors and dr's and even the law with this and each time I am shot down. His own mother kicked him out at 15 and was going to put him into foster care but my husband stepped in thinking he just needed a new enviroment. Three years later he has been in more juvinile detention centers then he has ever spent out of them. One after the other say oh hes on his meds now so he is ok. Well he;s 18 now and worse than ever. I fear for the lives of my children but until he actually commits a violent crime there is NOTHING they will do. I need help. Nobody will listen. Not his probation officer, lawyer, or any "counselor" he has ever seen. Please help me get this potential killer off the streets.
Jennifer Ethridge Ward

Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
Get lost. This is a childfree board. Sucks to be you, I recommend going to the corner store for a Coke, then just keep on driving.

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"A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends, and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt, will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter." -Jonathan Swift, A Modest Proposal
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
A bunch of random people on the internet are hardly going to be in the position to help you, assuming we care about your problems.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
My .02: Keep on reporting and get a divorce, run screaming into the night. You do have the power to leave.

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Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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Jennifer Ethridge
I have said a thousand times that I believe my step son is going to be a serial killer. I have went to counselors and dr's and even the law with this and each time I am shot down. His own mother kicked him out at 15 and was going to put him into foster care but my husband stepped in thinking he just needed a new enviroment. Three years later he has been in more juvinile detention centers then he has ever spent out of them. One after the other say oh hes on his meds now so he is ok. Well he;s 18 now and worse than ever. I fear for the lives of my children but until he actually commits a violent crime there is NOTHING they will do. I need help. Nobody will listen. Not his probation officer, lawyer, or any "counselor" he has ever seen. Please help me get this potential killer off the streets.
Jennifer Ethridge Ward

Kick his ass out onto the streets if you love your kids so much. Gee that was hard.
Well he has moved out and lives somewhere else. But still rides the rodes with his stupid friends. He and his friend was "playing" around yesterday and almost hit four minors including his two younger brothers which sent my youngest into an asmtha attack and kept him up all night scared. I called the police and since my step son, who I have no doubt told his friend to do it, was not the driver he can not be charged and the other boy, a minor his self can only be charged with a misdamenor "reckless endangerment". And i am trying to contact anybody for help. If you dont care and dont want to listen then dont reply. This is serious and life endangering.

The search traces back to a friend of "childfree Zach" on myspaz. This is about as real as pokemon.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
"This is serious and life endangering"

Then get the fuck off the 'net and go do something about it! Christ...

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"A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends, and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt, will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter." -Jonathan Swift, A Modest Proposal
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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kidlesskim
http://www.scottcounseling.com/wordpress/is-my-child-becoming-a-serial-killer/2009/06/12/


After a serial or spree killer is caught the parents typically claim they had NO IDEA their sweet little boy was capable of such a thing. Yet, here's an article by a parenting counselor that CLEARLY indicates there ARE warning signs and after having read them I don't see how they could go unnoticed by the parents. In addition to that, it appears most of the "signs" have been CAUSED (or allowed to happen) by that very same parent! I believe, with few exceptions, when a kid goes on a spree killing or becomes a serial killer the parents should be prosecuted for either being accomplices to the crimes or for conspiracy and locked up.mob with pitchforks chasing anothermob



"For the most violent of criminals, there are warning signs that often start in childhood. Parents who come from a family history of mental health issues, violence, abuse and drug abuse need to be extra cautious. BullSHIT! If they have THIS type of history then they shouldn't shit or sire a loaf AT ALL, ever.! To do so is criminal, IMHO.

The list below presents the most common traits serial killers have exhibited over history.

1) Over 90 percent of serial killers are male.
2) Serial killers hate their parents.
3) Serial Killers tend to be intelligent, high IQ’s and “street smart.”
4) Serial killers tend to come from unstable or dysfunctional families.
5) Serial killers usually come from single parent homes, abandoned by the father and raised by an aggressive mother.
6) A serial killer’s family often has a history criminal, psychiatric and drug-abusing legacy.
7) Serial killers have a history of doing poorly in school. They have trouble keeping a job and often work as unskilled laborers.
8) Many serial killers were abused as children. This abuse included, physically, sexual and emotional abuse. Often this abuse has come at the hands of another family member.
9) While growing up, many serial killers spent time in mental health facilities as and have records of early psychological problems.
10) Serial killers often began their practice by tormenting small creatures or animals.
11) Serial killers have high rates of attempted suicide.
12) From an early age, many serial killers have shown an interest in pornography. This interest was often intensely and often included sadomasochistic pornography.
13) More than 60 percent of serial killers are bedwetters- beyond the age of 12.
14) Many serial killers are obsessed with fire starting tactics and pyromaniac techniques.


If your child is displaying anyone of these characteristics, contact a Parenting Counselor"



shrug Instead of contacting a counselor and doing something about their little monster, they will just ignore the behavior, make excuses, and pretend everything is honky-fucking-dory. Then, after he maims and kills a bunch of innocent people they start up with the, "But he was such a GOOD boy!" bullshit. I have NEVER bought it when they claim they knew nothing of his violent nature and feign complete surprise when he randomly murders people or opens fire in a crowd of people.

i am going to dispute a few of these:

1. I think that number is lower simply because, after watching shows such as "Deadly Women", female serial killers use poisons as their main method of killing or usually convince a male companion to aid them with murders. It was also thought-and I suspect in some areas, still is-that women are incapable of serial killing. It is possible for a female serial killer to go undetected for years-some may have never been caught-because focus fell onto the male companion or that the poisonings were viewed as illnesses.

2. I think this is more a stereotype than a fact. Several serial killers, including the one that murdered Amber DuBois and Chelsea King, stayed with their parents at some point in their adulthood and BTK and John Wayne Gacy were family men.

3. Do not deny this-to rack up the body counts, the more prolific ones were smart enough to outwit police for years. BTK outwitted police for decades.

4, 5, 6, 7 8 & 9-More of what I believe is stereotyping than it is hard fact. If these were consistent, then we would know who the serial killers are quickly. The first thing out of people's mouths is "You wouldn't think this guy would do that! He was so nice and quiet!" I think more accurately, when hearing descriptions of serial killers from profilers such as Candace DeLong and Dayle Hinman, the overall characteristic of serial killers is narcissism-they feel they are empowered and entitled to do what they do. They are sociopaths-with little emotion or disregard for other people. They are highly charismatic. Jeffrey Daumer talking police officers into turning over a fleeing victim to him, despite the victim being naked and crying as he was running from the home. They can be very manipulative-many female serial killers convince others to help them kill or dispose of bodies. Serial killers, however, are very rare creatures and if you go by the numbered question given, almost 47% of the population is a bunch of serial killers. I think serial killers are not created-I think to do what they do, they are born predators.

10. This is the key symptom. Plus, serial killers "practice" and "experiment" much of the time. They plan, they study other serial killers. Some have an obsessive interest in police investigation and forensics. One key thing found with serial killers are journals about how they plan their murders and how they feel about killing. They research how to lure victims, how to incapacitate victims and how to kill victims. You want to know if you have a serial killer in training? Go look in your kid's room and see what the kid's obsessions are. If Johnny or Sally has a lot of books and computer bookmarks on poisons and animals are mysteriously dying in the neighborhood, you have a serial killer in training.

11, 13 & 14-Again, not sure if these are stereotyping over fact.

12. I am going to agree, BUT...We live in a society in the USA that tends to link glorified violence and sex especially in pop culture. An interest in S&M does not necessarily mean the person is a serial killer any more than an interest in horror movies and heavy metal music means you are a satanist. And some serial killers are not interested in sex so much as the rush of having control over if someone lives or dies. I would say that serial killers who are also serial rapists or sadists are more likely to have violent porn.

I would say another sign is unexplained caches of uncharacteristic items. If you find a box and it has jewelry, underwear of the opposite sex, driver's licenses of people you do not know, newspaper clippings of murders, etc-you found a trophy case of your kid's murders and/or rapes.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
Nice geezer breeder you found, Jennifer (M)Ethridge, a.k.a. WHITNUR. He's probably got a big life insurance policy on your head.



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Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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I think that the reason for which women aren't considered serial killer while men are, is because one of the leading tract of serial killers is that they kill people they don't know. Serial killers kill people at random as long as they fill some criteria (ie: blonde girls), and that they need to *kill*.

Women who kills "serially", usually kill people close to them (husbands, children) and killing is a by-product of something else. They kill their children because of the attention they get, not because they want to kill or take pleasure from killing. Killing is a by-product of the fact that they want the attention. Also, there is no "profiling" of their victim. They don't kill all babies because they are babies, they kill their own babies because they want to play martyr.
Since both:
1. Killing "random" people who fall in some criteria
and
2. The murder must be the focus part of the business
are usually considered Serial Killer traits, those women don't fall neatly in the category.

In short, I think it is a matter of definition.

Also, I have know a serial killer in making. He was a boy in my school. Youth Skizophrenia, properly diagnosed.
He set papers on fire in the bathrooms. He tried to throw one of our classmates down the chute of the stairs. He threatened to cut people with scissors.
When he was "normal" he was nice. And he was breathakiling beautiful for a young boy (10 years old).
But he was crazy.

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I disagree. While they do not go and kill strangers too often, they can and do for the pleasure of killing. I think since many women prefer poisoning as their method, family members often become victims out of opportunity and convenience-they are right there and they can use poison to kill them slowly. It is not unusual for women serial killers to marry men who have children and kill the new husband and the step kids. When they have been presented other oppotunities to kill, such as a pediatric nurse position or a person who takes in foster children or orphans, they killed them, too. Erzsebet Bathory, the first well documented and most prolific female serial killer, set up a "finishing school" to teach young girls courtly manners as a way to load up on a seemingly endless supply of victims. She was pretty much figured out when she started targetting the daughters of nobles in the area. Her motive was to retain her youth allegedly, which she believed was through the bathing and drinking of the blood of young girls. She was convicted of 80 murders, although it is said she committed as many as 650. She was a noble, prone to epilepsy and violent rages, was very intelligent, highly promiscuous, is a reported narcissist, was extremely entitled (so much so that there really was no law that could prevent her from killing girls) and reportedly psychotic.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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Jennifer Ethridge
I have said a thousand times that I believe my step son is going to be a serial killer. I have went to counselors and dr's and even the law with this and each time I am shot down. His own mother kicked him out at 15 and was going to put him into foster care but my husband stepped in thinking he just needed a new enviroment. Three years later he has been in more juvinile detention centers then he has ever spent out of them. One after the other say oh hes on his meds now so he is ok. Well he;s 18 now and worse than ever. I fear for the lives of my children but until he actually commits a violent crime there is NOTHING they will do. I need help. Nobody will listen. Not his probation officer, lawyer, or any "counselor" he has ever seen. Please help me get this potential killer off the streets.
Jennifer Ethridge Ward

the word "divorce" mean anything to you? if your husband refuses to rein him in and the system refuses to do something, leave and buy a gun. i find your story a tad odd though because most social workers and police go into panic mode these days if you so much as say your kid is acting strange. hey-you want the cops to come for him, tell them you heard he was going to shoot up a school. for some reason, if a large group of children seem to be in danger of becoming taget practice, they actually put the donuts down and come out to bust his ass.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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Speaking of the original topic they've found several bodies in Vegas. The mouths and anuses were stuffed with corn flakes.

CSI suspects a cereal killer



ducking and running

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>>I defy you. Why don't you attack the PIECE OF SHIT "fathers" that run off? I am doing the best I can but it affects a young boy when their FATHER isn't around. I don't make excuses. I've given everything I have to make his life bearable while his sperm donor walks around making MORE babies. I work from home to be there when my son gets home, I attend all school functions, I've taken him to see a psychiatrist. What else is there oh fucking genius of little boydom?
You make me sick, judging all the single moms out there as one great big lump of shit when the fathers could have done what was right and stuck around instead of fertilizing everything in sight.
I take care of my responsibilities
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well, since it is proven that the thing contributing primarily to crime, gangs, drug use, teen pregnancy and dropping out of school is a single parent household (and Ann Coulter was quoting a report from a left leaning association when she wrote on it), then i think we can judge you rightly. By the way, I love when my white hood and robe first comes out of the dryer and is toasty warm-don't you?
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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Jennifer Ethridge
Well he has moved out and lives somewhere else. But still rides the rodes with his stupid friends. He and his friend was "playing" around yesterday and almost hit four minors including his two younger brothers which sent my youngest into an asmtha attack and kept him up all night scared. I called the police and since my step son, who I have no doubt told his friend to do it, was not the driver he can not be charged and the other boy, a minor his self can only be charged with a misdamenor "reckless endangerment". And i am trying to contact anybody for help. If you dont care and dont want to listen then dont reply. This is serious and life endangering.

You came onto our board. OUR. BOARD. If you didn't want to hear OUR REPLIES then you shouldn't have come here. We are not going to kowtow to your whining about how "this is serious and life endangering"; you are the one who came into our space and now you're demanding that WE obey YOU? FUCK. THAT. NOISE.

And since you wanted advice? Fine, I've got some for you. LEAVE. Take your children and LEAVE. Obviously your husband is a useless waste of space that doesn't give two shits about you and your children, since he's more concerned with defending sonnybubbles than defending you. Is this future serial killer stepson gonna follow you across state lines and hunt you down? No? Then LEAVE.

Oh, what's that? You don't want to leave because you love your husband? Well, clearly you don't give a shit about your children either, since you, like so many other "good mothers" out there, are putting your chosen penis/wallet ahead of their well-being. My advice in that case would be to put them into foster care. That way they won't be affected when sonnybubbles finally sets your house on fire.

There. That's my advice. Don't like it? TOUGH TITTY.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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Jennifer Ethridge
Well he has moved out and lives somewhere else. But still rides the rodes with his stupid friends. He and his friend was "playing" around yesterday and almost hit four minors including his two younger brothers which sent my youngest into an asmtha attack and kept him up all night scared. I called the police and since my step son, who I have no doubt told his friend to do it, was not the driver he can not be charged and the other boy, a minor his self can only be charged with a misdamenor "reckless endangerment". And i am trying to contact anybody for help. If you dont care and dont want to listen then dont reply. This is serious and life endangering.

i suggest again divorcing the breeder you hooked up with and buying a gun. i also recommend a restraining order if need be. then if little hiednik decides to pay you a visit, you paint the walls with his brain and a .357 magnum brush...
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October 17, 2012
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If you dont care and dont want to listen then dont reply. This is serious and life endangering.

Look, bitch. YOU invaded OUR boards. We don't give a shit about your little sob story. Grow up and deal with it and get the fuck out of here.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
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Jennifer Ethridge
Well he has moved out and lives somewhere else. But still rides the rodes with his stupid friends. He and his friend was "playing" around yesterday and almost hit four minors including his two younger brothers which sent my youngest into an asmtha attack and kept him up all night scared. I called the police and since my step son, who I have no doubt told his friend to do it, was not the driver he can not be charged and the other boy, a minor his self can only be charged with a misdamenor "reckless endangerment". And i am trying to contact anybody for help. If you dont care and dont want to listen then dont reply. This is serious and life endangering.

Your story might be true but I doubt it. For all I know you and your kids were horrible to your wallet's kid. I also get the impression you favored your own over the step kid. Now that I've added my two cents please go away.This is a child free board and I couldn't care less for your mommy drama. It's tiring.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 17, 2012
As you can see, my message was the polite version of telling you that if you have a serious problem, our board is not the place to get help. You should seek out resources in a position to actually help.

People who continually flout the board rules by posting here when they aren't qualified to participate in the board are assumed to be trolls. If you consider my message unhelpful you're going to find the response to trolls far less so.
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October 17, 2012
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As you can see, my message was the polite version of telling you that if you have a serious problem, our board is not the place to get help. You should seek out resources in a position to actually help.

People who continually flout the board rules by posting here when they aren't qualified to participate in the board are assumed to be trolls. If you consider my message unhelpful you're going to find the response to trolls far less so.


I agreethumbs upwink

It's actually disturbing to me this woman actually thinks her step son is capable of hurting her children, YET there she stays putting them at risk every single day! THIS is why I think parents would be held criminally, morally, and civilly accountable when their kids drag out weapons and start shooting innocent people! Like this cow has demonstrated, she and her husband KNOW IN ADVANCE the boy is a danger to them, their other kids, and society in general, but they do nothing! Instead of trolling childFREE message boards and whining about this Bad Seed, she NEEDS to be contacting the appropriate agencies to stop him BEFORE he fills up a gym bag with guns and grenades and goes on a shooting spree at the mall OR before he harms her OWN kids!the world 'fail' on flames

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I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
October 18, 2012
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Nice geezer breeder you found, Jennifer (M)Ethridge, a.k.a. WHITNUR. He's probably got a big life insurance policy on your head.


waving hellolarious HE LOOKS AS OLD AS MY DAD!! waving hellolarious

You ever see Deadly Women, where a younger woman hooks up with some old fart, convinces him to make her his sole heir, secretly puts a cool million dollar insurance policy on his ass, then poisons him so it looks like he died from illness? That's what this looks like: "He might not be good in bed, but his extremely valuable Civil War collection is MINE!"
Some of these comments are discusting. The mother is not always to blame! I am a mother of a nut case 16 year old who has had mental health problems since he was very little. He was diagnosed as bi-polar with psycotic features at the age of 4. Through out the years I have had him rediagnosed by different doctors only to get the same results. I have had him in intensive therapy with no great results since the age of 4. This is not a kid that has had mediocre mental health care. With in the last 2 years I have been crying out for help because the older he gets the worse the problems seem to be. He turns my house into a war zone on a daily basis and he tends to have the "everything is about me" additude. He is very nasty to everyone in our family including his 2 year old sister. He is currently in a mental health hospital and has been there for over 2 months now. Everyone involved in his case has admitted they have made no progress with him. He has manipulated his current doctors (at the hospital) to believe he has body dismorphic disorder...something he had researched and studied for over a year. It wasn't until he was in the hospital that we found a bunch of information about this disorder that he had printed from a computer and stashed in his room. When I asked him where he was using a computer to get this information at (computers at home are locked at all times so he can't use them) he told me that he used the computers at school and at some of his friends houses. We just has a family day pass with him a couple of days ago and he started a conversation with me about research he had been doing at the hospital about serial killers...my heart stopped. He went on to tell me that he thought their choice of victims were interesting and what he would have done different. When I told his doctor of this conversation she dismissed my concern after telling me that ALL teens find something in life interesting and I don't need to overreact and make him feel as if I'm judging him. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?! I have been extremely fearful of something like this...please understand that this is a child who has told me the different ways he plans to kill me (his mother) and other people including school mates and staff. One of his doctors tried telling me that my son only talks like that when he feels threatened and he deserves to have a safe healthy enviroment when he is at school. My response to that comment was "so does everyone else's kid". I have been scrutinized by these doctors because I have not tried to understand my son and I always feel the need to protect other people including my other children and that's why my son doesn't feel loved by me. I had a social worker tell me that I need to find middle ground with him on the things he says and does that bother me. Really? So if he's telling me he wants to kill someone I should simply tell him "If your good today I will let you kill 1 person?". Sorry, but there is NO middle ground or negotiation when he talks about killing or hurting someone! I say BULLSHIT! I have a duty as a mother to protect myself and my children from him and I also a duty to protect the innocent people who may come into contact with him. It is absolutely exhausting to deal with this every day. The ironic thing is everyone in his bio dads side of the family has been diagnosed with mental problems...my son was not raised by his dad and all contact with him was severed at the age of 3. However, he acts just like his crazy bio dad and nutty grandmother. I happen to think it's hereditary and in our case it's from his bio fathers side! I have never made any excuses for my child. I am scared shitless of what he could possibly do to myself and others. I have never said this to anyone but he always threatens to kill himself...part of me only hopes his life will be the only life taken by his hands.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
November 06, 2012
The nicest thing I can say to you is, you are SO in the wrong place. You need to find a mawm/childed site to complain on.

We don't have these problems because we choose not to breed. When you do so, that is the chance you take, that your chyld doesn't end up being a cancer-curer, but a dangerous psychopath.

That is not something we ever have to worry about, and not something we have ever wanted to worry about.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
November 06, 2012
Sucks to be MOOOO!

Are you fucking kidding? Do you know where you are even posting? This is a CHILDFREE board. We DON"T CARE that your kyd is creating problems and making your life a living HELL. YOU chose to breed, and this is what happens. Deal with it.

And have you ever heard of PARAGRAPHS? And please learn how to write correctly. I can always spot Moos from a mile away because you are illiterate.

Please look at the NAME of our site before you start mooing and lowing about your little serial killer. Now go the fuck AWAY.

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I miss my little feather baby.
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
November 06, 2012
Holy fucking wall o'text! :goggle

I had NO idea what you are saying, but if you are in a bad situation, my advice is to seek help OFFLINE. This is a childfree board and we don't take kindly to moos over here.

Now tell me again how 'it's all wooorrrtth it?'
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
November 06, 2012
Oh fuck, not this thread again.

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"A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends, and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt, will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter." -Jonathan Swift, A Modest Proposal
Re: "Is My Child Becoming a Serial Killer?" (The Signs)
November 06, 2012
If the father and his family have mental problems why the hell would you consider breeding with him?
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