Moo: Are You Jealous of the Childfree?

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CFinPenthouse
One of the moos:

"Having children gives you wisdom, tolerance and teaches you how to be giving. Having children is not a sentance, and the term ” child free”, is probably up for debate as children are everywhere. I am a mother, and successful career women, and go the gym, and have brilliant child free time as well as being motivated to make my children informed , educated and independant."

Makes you wonder where all the mouth-breathing, selfish, eternally stupid breeders who are 99% of parunts come from.

This bestowing of traits by having kids is utter bullshit. A child does not make you less a selfish ass. It makes you a selfish ass with a child.

And I am not jealous of people with kids any more than they should be jealous of me. It is what it is. If you're jealous because I am going to rock concerts or buying sushi and fossils, that is your problem, not mine. Your anger and jealousy says more about you than me anyway.

If they are not jealous as they claim, then why all the fuss, article, comments and bitching? By doing all that show they prove exactly the opposite.

Yes because exercising and being fit rather than sitting on your ass Twittering and occasionally looking in the general direction of your child is "self-mutilation." This coming from someone who voluntarily remained pregnant and gave birth, resulting either in a destroyed vag or a big fat C-section scar, and stretch marks and deformed tits either way.

These people are dumb..."Oh I don't envy those childfree people at all! But I envy their nice homes, nice clothes, extra income, intact bodies, faithful partners, ability to sleep in, vacations and spare time." Those tend to be things CFers have, so to be envious of what they have means you are envious of them. But it doesn't stop there because even while talking anonymously, they must make sure everyone knows that, "Oh being a mother is all worth it! I wouldn't trade my baybees for a childless life. I don't regret having children and I love my life and wouldn't change anything about it." Mmhmm, right.

I also love how people can say they have good careers, interesting hobbies they regularly pursue, are well-off financially, and are healthy, yet they think there is MORE to life, throw away everything they have and have worked for to have kids. Yeah, give it about a year and they'll realize that the real treasure and the real worthwhile things are the ones they threw away

And lastly, I want to punch the ones who go, "You can have kids and still have childfree moments." Umm, no, you can't. That's like saying a thin person can have fat moments. Makes no sense. If you have kids, you are not and will never be childfree. You can have times when you leave the brats with a sitter and enjoy an evening without YOUR children, but you are in no way childfree.

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Cambion
I also love how people can say they have good careers, interesting hobbies they regularly pursue, are well-off financially, and are healthy, yet they think there is MORE to life, throw away everything they have and have worked for to have kids. Yeah, give it about a year and they'll realize that the real treasure and the real worthwhile things are the ones they threw away.

This shows how terribly selfish and ungrateful they are. People will throw away all that and their relationships as well for this sprogging. Now to have it all and toss it like trash because you don't appreciate your good fortune is just piggish. Some people would kill just to have a shitty job or to be healthy or to have a loving partner but wanna breeds would spit on all this and whine it's not enooouuugh. Then when they get what they want they whine about how haaaaard it is and say things like though they are moos they can have a "childfree mindset". LOL.

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satansbitch
I knew this comment would be in there somewhere and it didn't take me long to find it.

“When they are old and on their deathbed…..I hope they have lots of friends there for them, supporting them”

I'd be just fine with only Oscar the Death Cat

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Another article

"People were actually taking great comfort in this idea, that this animal was there and might be there when their loved ones eventually pass. He was there when they couldn't be," he said.

Maybe that should be changed to "He was there so they wouldn't have to be"

I have just returned from one of those 'care free' and spur of the moment CF jaunts - not clubbing or tripping - shopping.

Yes indeed, we CF can indulge in profligate spending and I hesitate to even mention it for concern that Lurking Moos might become enraged with envy.

Actually, I'm not concerned

So - let me tell you all about this exciting spur of the moment shopping extravaganza! It was some time in the making though, because what I purchased I have been researching online and coveting one item in particular, after I narrowed it down.

So my friend called up and said - hey - let's go shopping! I yelled CHARGE IT!!! Like Wilma Flintstone crazed with consumer lust - oh I just could NOT wait!

Well. I'm just too excited by it all! I'm turning Awtiztic trying to get the words out and I should get to the point here, so I'll just tell you what I got:

A blanket at K Mart.

Here's a pic of it ~
http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_070B693242110001P?prdNo=1#reviewsWrap

Isn't it just SPECTACULARLY AWESOME???!!!

I know, it's just so cool and like I say - I hesitate to even whisper about this for fear that peeps may become enraged with jealous passions and start a nuclear war or something.

I mean it is - really exciting!!!

Ah....... the wonderfully indulgent life of the CF. It's really something, isn't it? Boggles the mind.

"A blanket at K Mart."



it is exciting! so are you gonna wear it when you go out clubbing? then you can get wasted and sleep until, like, noon. because unlike a SAHMoo you don't have any responsibilities and you aren't doing TMIJITW, so you can be a crazy, immature, selfish CF person who refuses to grow up.

There's something I've noticed.

On one of the other threads, the "letter from moms to CF people" or whatever, the mombie said that when she hung out with friends, she did NOT want them to just invite her to their place for movies, because she can do that at home, and when she goes to all the trouble to get a sitter she wants to really let loose and........go clubbing.

But then, they're always slamming on the CF implying that all we ever do is club, and that when we do club it's some awful immature thing.

This raises an interesting point:

They think THEY have every right to club and just let their hair down, but when WE go clubbing, we're sad people with no life who think we're still 18.

Double standards much?

All this tripe.... "The moos doth protest too much, methinks".
Keep trying! We can see right through it

" their crazy-pants running habit; they are training for ultra-marathons, events which require them to run uphill for 100 miles."

At least that's a real achievement.

I fucking hate it when they say they still have "childfree time." No, morons, you don't get childfree time. That time is reserved for those of us who are really, actually, truly childfree. Like others have said, you can just feel the jealously coming through. Never once have I heard a childfree person state that they feel like they're missing out on anything. But mooooos....how fucking often do you hear them say, "I miss sleeping in" or "I miss brunch" or "I miss adult time with my friends." ALL.THE.DAMN.TIME. And those idiots who say we're all nursing hangovers and they're past the partying stage, well, I got over the partying stage when I was 25. Granted, I've nursed hangovers since then but nothing like years ago. When I got bored of the partying stage, it didn't automatically make me an adult or make me think dropping a loaf was the next logical step. I hate moos. Fucking hate them.

Katelyn is a fucking idiot.

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katelyn says:
April 20, 2011 at 8:37 pm
You should not be jealous of the childfree – and if you have children, you can also have childfree moments. Childfree can be a mentality as well. You have to live your life and be independent while also being a mommy. Take time for yourself and your significant other, take vacations together, have conversations with people about things beyond diapers. Practice it and balance it and you will have no reason to be jealous. The DINK lifestyle (dual income no kids) is a great lifestage, but anyone can live the MINDSET. Start by checking out DINKlife.com – the lifestyle of dual income no kids couples. All of the content is about the lifestyle of having fun while experiencing personal growth, but it can apply to moms too! Enjoy

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deanad
Quote: One of the pleasures of being a parent for me is not thinking about myself all the time.


I LOVE thinking about myself and what would make me happy on any given day.

yes...! some people (THE moos) are concerned too much to look good in front of other. whatever. we're still homo sapiens, which by nature are selfish.
yup, i'm selfish, and i love thinking about myself.

Moos are under the false impression that since they are "forced" into caring for their DNA replicant, it somehow makes them more compassionate, selfless and giving.

I mean....what other choice do they have but to care for their own offspring? How does that make them selfless?

And, as evidenced by the high number of brats and loaves that get abandoned, abused, neglected and killed by their own handlers...I'd say that many of them are doing a pretty shitty job at it.

Someone should tell these idiots that compassion shows in lies towards others who are outside of your own personal bubble...helping them without any expectations in return. It is in volunteering with those who are less fortunate, helping out in a soup kitchen for the homeless...working in a shelter with abandoned and abused animals. Coming to the need of others who don't even know your name. That is true compassion and selflessness.

It can even mean helping your elderly next door neighbor, by picking up a few groceries for her at the store, or visiting someone who is lonely. It can mean bringing a casserole to a sick person's house after they've had surgery. These are kind, random acts that can be considered compassionate.

Do I consider myself compassionate and selfless because I take care of the pets I choose to keep?

NO. I have chosen to bear the responsibility of loving them, giving them what they need to thrive....but since I chose to own them and they are at my mercy, it only makes me a responsible pet guardian....not some compassionate martyr.

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lar19
Katelyn is a fucking idiot.

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katelyn says:
April 20, 2011 at 8:37 pm
You should not be jealous of the childfree – and if you have children, you can also have childfree moments. Childfree can be a mentality as well. You have to live your life and be independent while also being a mommy. Take time for yourself and your significant other, take vacations together, have conversations with people about things beyond diapers. Practice it and balance it and you will have no reason to be jealous. The DINK lifestyle (dual income no kids) is a great lifestage, but anyone can live the MINDSET. Start by checking out DINKlife.com – the lifestyle of dual income no kids couples. All of the content is about the lifestyle of having fun while experiencing personal growth, but it can apply to moms too! Enjoy

Yeah this one stood out at me as well.

Sorry. CF is not a 'moment' nor a 'mindset'.

This bool sheet sounds like some advert for chocolate candies or bubble bath. Savor the MOMENT! It's a MINDSET!
You can HAVE IT ALL!

Yeah,do shut up. If you think you can live two different and often conflicting lifestyles at the same time - you belong in a rubber room.

Or, you're just fooling yourself with surface crap like a vacay to MX or skiis for the Whole Famblee which will never be used.

I'm going to go back to savoring the moments of my 24/7 CF lifestyle now So mondo swanky, as I said previously, and I do savor the moments such as when I can piss in peace which is what I'm about to do next. I mean, go out clubbing

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Moo Moo Moo
One of the pleasures of being a parent for me is not thinking about myself all the time.

Horse hooey. If you weren't so selfish, you wouldn't be going off and spawning in the first place. The desire to replicate yourself is the ultimate sign of narcissism and selfishness to me.

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Moo Moo Moo
Having children gives you wisdom, tolerance and teaches you how to be giving.

Say WHAAAAAT?!

What antimatter universe did these idjits spew from?!

In my universe, having children has the side effect of making one less wise, tolerant and giving. Just read the average moo board or blog. Half of them joke about wanting to sell their little darlings on eBay or bitch non-stop about their kyds' shitty behavior. If that's wisdom and tolerance, then I'm Donald freaking Duck.

These moos may wish for just a speck of childfree time, but that's an impossibility short of adopting them out or pulling a Susan Smith. Sorry, parunts, the childfree parking spaces are reserved. Childfree class? All booked out. Go to coach with the rest of them.

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Floressa Silkstream (aka lonecretin)

The pitter-patter of little feet in the hallway spells mediocrity.

It sounds more like they're trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.
This is all I have to say.

There is no way for a breeder to be compassionate or selfless because they don't know how to think about anyone but themselves. They view their kids as mere extensions of themselves, so even they don't count as "anyone else." And I totally agree - giving, nurturing qualities are not something you acquire via giving birth. It's something you just have on your own or maybe develop over time, rather than the equivalent of a light switch being flipped on. Not only that, but in order to be selfless, one must be a little selfish first...basically, in order to properly help someone else, you need to make sure you yourself are taken care of first. With Moos, all they know how to do is shit for themselves and no one else because they can't see beyond their own little mental bubbles. How deep their friendships get depends on how much they can "use" the person. Their husbands are never so much as given a hug unless Moo needs money or wants another loaf. Family is taken advantage of for charity babysitting. They will abandon their children in stores or leave them to die in hot cars so Moo can shop in peace. Yeah, reeeeeeal selfless.

And another thing...I've never been a wild partying clubbing person. I went and got a drink for the first time in my life a few months ago and I had a damn Sprite. I don't dance, I don't drink, I don't do drugs, I don't even like going out sometimes, I don't like incredibly loud things. Must be something wrong with me because I'm not nor have I ever been the stereotypical wild, rich girl breeders seem to think all we CFers are.

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apparently the ideas that being moo is automatically making you selfless, that you're expected to sacrifice your life to be a moo forever, and that moo is a goddess you should praise on their feet are so widely acceptable by society everywhere so that no one ever rethinks about it, no one ever questions about it. it almost makes me feel bad for choosing the selfish way to live, for i have failed to follow the widely accepted normal, happy, full of god's blessing Life Script^tm.

is existence better than non-existence? is a human being all that important to the world so they must not become extinct, so that creating and raising them are considered sooooooo noble? would it make any difference at all? HA-HA! whoops. sorry. misanthropic mode on.

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Cambion
And another thing...I've never been a wild partying clubbing person. I went and got a drink for the first time in my life a few months ago and I had a damn Sprite. I don't dance, I don't drink, I don't do drugs, I don't even like going out sometimes, I don't like incredibly loud things. Must be something wrong with me because I'm not nor have I ever been the stereotypical wild, rich girl breeders seem to think all we CFers are.

in fact, from the ancient MBTi personality thread i created, most of us are hardcore introverts who need plenty of space and quiet alone time. we're not antisocial, shy, nor socially awkward, we're introverts! some of us enjoys solitary hobbies/activities, socializing in small groups... oh, the perks of being introvert!

with kids on tow, we would be devastated. gee...i don't want anything that cling onto my personal space that much.

i imagine moos who stereotyping CFers as wild promiscuous rich people are really bitter about their own life. they want to have the time, money, and company to be wild, but all they got is the kid and equally boring circle of moo friends for company. no money, no time.

spread meme, not genes

to my uterus: Y U NO GET THE FUCK OUT FROM MY BODY?

"and the term ” child free”, is probably up for debate as children are everywhere. "

DON'T remind me. maybe one AWESOME day, the brats will be kept in CAGES where they belong!

oh- they're not REALLY everywhere- they're not in my HOME!

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the term ” child free”, is probably up for debate as children are everywhere.

Yeah we fucking know they're everywhere, that's why we want you to keep them contained.

How does that even... that's not logical. Children are everywhere so you can't be childfree? The hell is she talking about?

It makes them feel better to pretend no one can be childfree. It's simple delusion. Children are out there but they are not in my home or even on my street at this point. I avoid places where kyds are as much as possible and have been doing well accomplishing this. If I have to be around them for short periods of time I'm still CF, I'll still be going home to my peaceful life and there's nothing moo can do to force kyds into my private life so fuck you, jealous bitch.

The first thing people do when they want to dismiss something is to try to trivialize it in order to make it sound absurd. So they try to pretend that the word "childfree" is meaningless by insisting that either anyone and everyone can be childfree ("My kids are at my MIL's house. I'm childfree tonight!") or that no one can be childfree because you still have to, like, see them and stuff. It's really not good that people this dumb are raising kids.

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blondie
It makes them feel better to pretend no one can be childfree. It's simple delusion.

LOL, more like what they call "mommy brain."

From Urban Dictionary:


1. Mommy Brain
The phenomenon known to mothers where their brains become useless piles of goo after being around their children for too long.

No wonder they think up such hogwash.

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blondie
It makes them feel better to pretend no one can be childfree. It's simple delusion.

LOL, more like what they call "mommy brain."

From Urban Dictionary:


1. Mommy Brain
The phenomenon known to mothers where their brains become useless piles of goo after being around their children for too long.

No wonder they think up such hogwash.

I was so disappointed to see a woman who has a degree in economics and speaks three languages say on Fb that she was suffering from "momnesia" after she had her kid. I was like "Oh, no. Not you too."

"One of the pleasures of being a parent for me is not thinking about myself all the time."



having a kid is a choice most moos make because they want to have a kid. hmmm...they want something and then get it and that's ok, but when CF people want something (other than a baybee) we are selfish? also, according to the worn-out bingos, they also have kids so someone will take care of them when they're old, pass on their genes, achieve immortality through their sproglets, have someone who will love them unconditionally, see what their babies will look like ("will he have my eyes?", etc), fit into society, improve their marriage, trap someone into marriage, please their parents/in-laws, relieve their boredom and/or loneliness, etc.

so how exactly are those selfless goals?

by the way, most of those things can be achieved through pets, martinis, and a good retirement account.

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i like caramel
There's something I've noticed.

On one of the other threads, the "letter from moms to CF people" or whatever, the mombie said that when she hung out with friends, she did NOT want them to just invite her to their place for movies, because she can do that at home, and when she goes to all the trouble to get a sitter she wants to really let loose and........go clubbing.

But then, they're always slamming on the CF implying that all we ever do is club, and that when we do club it's some awful immature thing.

This raises an interesting point:

They think THEY have every right to club and just let their hair down, but when WE go clubbing, we're sad people with no life who think we're still 18.

Double standards much?

I was going to start a new thread on just this.

You know, what, I will.

These martyr moos are so full of shit it's not funny.