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Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?

Posted by clematis 
Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 19, 2012
(copied from a Reddit post):

[This just happened about 20 minutes ago in downtown Boston. I was at the corner of a major intersection waiting to cross when an adorable kid in his Sox garb pulled away from his texting mother and try to cross on his own.

By the time I realized what was really happening the kid was about 10 feet in front of an armored data tape truck which based on how high the cab is I don't think the driver could have even seen the kid if he was looking. A girl who looked like she was about 25 stepped into the street and lifted the kid up by the arm and pulled him back onto the curb as the truck skidded to a stop.

I was shocked and impressed, I had watched the whole thing happened and in no way could have responded so quickly. Well instead of thanking the woman that just stopped her child from dying in front of her the mother went absolutely bonkers. She started screaming "How dare you touch my child" along with a string of obscenities. The young woman kept her cool for about 30 seconds of screaming before telling the mom that next time she'd just let the kid get hit before storming off.]
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 19, 2012
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you do help, you're a pervert. If you don't help, the kid gets hit by a car and you go to jail. In all honesty, I've learned to look away and keep walking.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 19, 2012
Obviously the moo wanted her brat to be hit by the truck. Otherwise she would have been teary-eyed, thanking and hugging that woman, grateful that she saved her brat's life.
Mooo was hoping that her "Little Mystayke" would be flattened and killed, and this woman stopped her from getting her wish.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
All together now:

'Attempted Post-Natal Abortion!!!!!'

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'Though I am satisfied at first by my actions, I'm suddenly jolted with a mournful despair at how useless, how extraordinarily painless, it is to take a child's life. The thing before me....has no real history, no worthwhile past, nothing is really lost.' AMERICAN PSYCHO - Patrick Bateman critiques killing a child
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
This reminds me of one of the most absurd stories ever relayed by a Moo on one of the Gentle Discipline Moo forums, I think it was KellyMoo or maybe Mothering.commode. You all know how they race to the computer to detail every minute of their lives when they aren't texting it from their phones. Anyway, this Moo was seeking advice on how she should have reacted when a passerby very UN gently snatched her toddler out of the way of a moving vehicle in a Pizza Hut parking lot. She was pissed because the man literally grabbed the kid by the arm and thwarted his getting hit by a car because the he-brat had broken free from her "gentle" grip and ran out into the open parking lot. I couldn't even believe it, but there she was lowing about it.eyeroll

They all agreed the man should have "gently" picked him up and set him down out of harm's way and then she could have "gently" picked him up, nursed him to calm him down, and afterwards "gently" explained to him why he couldn't run into ongoing traffic. They nearly ALWAYS recommend nursing a toddler before you "gently" scold it about anything.Head-Brick

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
"Gentle" my ass. Toddlers don't respond to "gentle discipline." The only way they learn is if you yank them out of traffic, swat them on the butt, and yell that they just did something stupid. They're not going to do it again because they don't want to get spanked and yelled at again.
lenona
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
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clematis
(copied from a Reddit post):

Well instead of thanking the woman that just stopped her child from dying in front of her the mother went absolutely bonkers. She started screaming "How dare you touch my child" along with a string of obscenities.

Sorry to play devil's advocate, but unless the screamer somehow didn't SEE what almost happened, that sounds to me like someone who is seriously mentally ill. Believe me, I know a few things about genuine mental illness.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
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paragon schnitzophonic
"Gentle" my ass. Toddlers don't respond to "gentle discipline." The only way they learn is if you yank them out of traffic, swat them on the butt, and yell that they just did something stupid. They're not going to do it again because they don't want to get spanked and yelled at again.

Exactly. If the he-brat associates running out into traffic with being held, udder feeding, and catered to he will likely try it again as soon as he can. Of course, this could be what they are hoping for anyway and the posting about their worries on a time stamped website might be an attempt at an alibi. "I ONLY looked away for a minute while he was racing into the intersection to seek advice from my fellow tit feeders as to the best course of action". That they do, "What's best for my chyyld" is complete and total bullshit. With few exceptions, they do what is best for them and what will get them the most attention.

After all, if the kid gets run over by a street cleaner or abducted by a perv while they, "only looked away for a minute", they can be assured of the following:

1)Immediate outpour of public sympathy that will span a lifetime
2)Thousands of letters, emails, and internet posts that start out with things like, "As a Moo, I can imagine how you feel.....my heart goes out to you..........every parents' worst nightmare....I think of my little she-brat and can imagine your pain.........."etc.........
3)Candle light vigils,Teddy bears, and balloons will litter their community
4)Money cans for donations and memorial funds will be set up all over town
5)They'll get enough casseroles and pot roasts they won't have to cook for a year

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
Should have thrown the little shitbag back into traffic. Moo can clean up the mess.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
This Reddit thread is a microcosm of all that is right and wrong in the world.

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

Eat U
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
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kidlesskim
Anyway, this Moo was seeking advice on how she should have reacted when a passerby very UN gently snatched her toddler out of the way of a moving vehicle in a Pizza Hut parking lot. She was pissed because the man literally grabbed the kid by the arm and thwarted his getting hit by a car because the he-brat had broken free from her "gentle" grip and ran out into the open parking lot. I couldn't even believe it, but there she was lowing about it.eyeroll

They all agreed the man should have "gently" picked him up and set him down out of harm's way and then she could have "gently" picked him up, nursed him to calm him down, and afterwards "gently" explained to him why he couldn't run into ongoing traffic. They nearly ALWAYS recommend nursing a toddler before you "gently" scold it about anything.Head-Brick

My god, being that stupid should be painful.

Seriously? He wasn't 'gentle' enough? If he had taken the time to make sure he was being gentle, that kid would have been hit. I'm surprised he didn't get busted for unlawful restraint or some stupid thing.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
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kidlesskim
This reminds me of one of the most absurd stories ever relayed by a Moo on one of the Gentle Discipline Moo forums, I think it was KellyMoo or maybe Mothering.commode. You all know how they race to the computer to detail every minute of their lives when they aren't texting it from their phones. Anyway, this Moo was seeking advice on how she should have reacted when a passerby very UN gently snatched her toddler out of the way of a moving vehicle in a Pizza Hut parking lot. She was pissed because the man literally grabbed the kid by the arm and thwarted his getting hit by a car because the he-brat had broken free from her "gentle" grip and ran out into the open parking lot. I couldn't even believe it, but there she was lowing about it.eyeroll

They all agreed the man should have "gently" picked him up and set him down out of harm's way and then she could have "gently" picked him up, nursed him to calm him down, and afterwards "gently" explained to him why he couldn't run into ongoing traffic. They nearly ALWAYS recommend nursing a toddler before you "gently" scold it about anything.Head-Brick

The man didn't "gently" grab the toadler? If he tried to "gently" grab the brat, the brat would've likely squirmed out of the man's grip and gotten killed. Instead of thanking the "village" for helping, all they do is moan and fucking whine that "the village" didn't do it the way they like. Too Fucking Bad.
Also: Any excuse to shove their big, sweaty tits into their toadler's mouths, huh?
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
Unbelievable.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
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kidlesskim
They all agreed the man should have "gently" picked him up and set him down out of harm's way and then she could have "gently" picked him up, nursed him to calm him down, and afterwards "gently" explained to him why he couldn't run into ongoing traffic. They nearly ALWAYS recommend nursing a toddler before you "gently" scold it about anything.

gently my ass! if the guy ever gently picked him up, gently nursed him to calm down, gently blah blah blah, the moo would scream pedophilia.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
In an emergency there is no time to piddle around with being "gentle". Roll-Eyes
PeaceNLI
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 20, 2012
gently nursed him?? I guess moos will use any excuse to get their tits sucked!!
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
You know, everybody wanted to jump on China's ass when that toddler was run over twice by a van and was left to die by people who walked past her and didn't bother to help. Then it was revealed that if anybody helped, they could have been held legally responsible for the kid's injuries, so everybody was too afraid to help. A tragedy to be sure and watching the video was horrifying, but this is the end result when breeders think that everybody else is responsible when it's convenient to them.

Case in point: that woman in PA a few years back who was charged with a toddler's death (a child that was not hers) because she didn't jump into a swollen river to save the little idiot because it was dangerous and she couldn't swim even in the best of circumstances. The father got off, but she got convicted because she pulled the kid back from the river the first time around. Jesus fuck, I was an EMT back in the day and one of the things we were taught is to NOT go in because there's no point in water rescue bringing back TWO dead bodies.

Breeders don't seem to understand that when somebody saves your child from certain injury and/or death, the proper fucking response is, "THANK YOU." They keep this shit up, one day a kid is going to run out into a busy intersection and get struck and killed because everybody finds it better to pretend they didn't see anything than help. And then the breeders will want to go on the news and there will be endless sensationalist topics like, "Have Americans become heartless?" and nobody will have the balls to say that nobody wants to fucking help these people anymore because they're no longer expected to show a little fucking gratitude.

I mean, I found somebody's cell phone in the street and managed to return it to him and he gives me $20. And it was just a cell phone. A breeder can't say a simple "Thank you," when a complete stranger saves their kid's life?
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
When I was 19 I watched while a Burger King employee, not much younger than I was, walk a toddler back into the dining room. He was out in the parking lot by himself. Teenage girl finds moo, who seriously flips out on her. "You bitch, what are you doing with my baby? I want police! Kidnapper! Help!" This goes on until police are called. The girl who tried to help isn't in trouble but moo dealt with one cop who decided to make her life hell. Lucky for the girl everything was on survelliance camera. Come to find the kid was away from it's moo for more than twenty minutes while she was yapping with a friend. If this is the kind of reaction people get for being kind it's not worth it. I learned a long time ago to look away and just keep walking where kids are concerned. It's not worth going to jail for.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
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paragon schnitzophonic
You know, everybody wanted to jump on China's ass when that toddler was run over twice by a van and was left to die by people who walked past her and didn't bother to help. Then it was revealed that if anybody helped, they could have been held legally responsible for the kid's injuries, so everybody was too afraid to help. A tragedy to be sure and watching the video was horrifying, but this is the end result when breeders think that everybody else is responsible when it's convenient to them.

Case in point: that woman in PA a few years back who was charged with a toddler's death (a child that was not hers) because she didn't jump into a swollen river to save the little idiot because it was dangerous and she couldn't swim even in the best of circumstances. The father got off, but she got convicted because she pulled the kid back from the river the first time around. Jesus fuck, I was an EMT back in the day and one of the things we were taught is to NOT go in because there's no point in water rescue bringing back TWO dead bodies.

Breeders don't seem to understand that when somebody saves your child from certain injury and/or death, the proper fucking response is, "THANK YOU." They keep this shit up, one day a kid is going to run out into a busy intersection and get struck and killed because everybody finds it better to pretend they didn't see anything than help. And then the breeders will want to go on the news and there will be endless sensationalist topics like, "Have Americans become heartless?" and nobody will have the balls to say that nobody wants to fucking help these people anymore because they're no longer expected to show a little fucking gratitude.

I mean, I found somebody's cell phone in the street and managed to return it to him and he gives me $20. And it was just a cell phone. A breeder can't say a simple "Thank you," when a complete stranger saves their kid's life?

very true. i think the woman who was charged was a target of judicial activism-that is, they feel that they have to make an example of SOMEBODY, even if the situation was not the person's fault. i would have appealed that.
lenona
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
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satansbitch
When I was 19 I watched while a Burger King employee, not much younger than I was, walk a toddler back into the dining room. He was out in the parking lot by himself. Teenage girl finds moo, who seriously flips out on her. "You bitch, what are you doing with my baby? I want police! Kidnapper! Help!" This goes on until police are called. The girl who tried to help isn't in trouble but moo dealt with one cop who decided to make her life hell. Lucky for the girl everything was on survelliance camera. Come to find the kid was away from it's moo for more than twenty minutes while she was yapping with a friend.

Details, please! What did the cop do (besides show the video to everyone, I assume)?
lenona
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
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lenona
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clematis
(copied from a Reddit post):

Well instead of thanking the woman that just stopped her child from dying in front of her the mother went absolutely bonkers. She started screaming "How dare you touch my child" along with a string of obscenities.

Sorry to play devil's advocate, but unless the screamer somehow didn't SEE what almost happened, that sounds to me like someone who is seriously mentally ill. Believe me, I know a few things about genuine mental illness.

But, now that I think about it, you don't have to be seriously ill to be a shameless narcissist who will never accept blame for anything.
lenona
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
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paragon schnitzophonic
Case in point: that woman in PA a few years back who was charged with a toddler's death (a child that was not hers) because she didn't jump into a swollen river to save the little idiot because it was dangerous and she couldn't swim even in the best of circumstances. The father got off, but she got convicted because she pulled the kid back from the river the first time around. Jesus fuck, I was an EMT back in the day and one of the things we were taught is to NOT go in because there's no point in water rescue bringing back TWO dead bodies.

To repeat (her name was Newkirk, BTW):

Does ANYONE understand why they could jail her for this but (maybe) couldn't jail her for not simply keeping a sharper eye on the kid beforehand? After all, a nearby non-swimming STRANGER who hadn't seen the kid until AFTER the kid fell in wouldn't be blamed for not jumping in, so what's the difference?
lenona
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
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paragon schnitzophonic
Breeders don't seem to understand that when somebody saves your child from certain injury and/or death, the proper fucking response is, "THANK YOU." They keep this shit up, one day a kid is going to run out into a busy intersection and get struck and killed because everybody finds it better to pretend they didn't see anything than help. And then the breeders will want to go on the news and there will be endless sensationalist topics like, "Have Americans become heartless?" and nobody will have the balls to say that nobody wants to fucking help these people anymore because they're no longer expected to show a little fucking gratitude.

Um, if you're going to say "the last time I snatched a child out of harm's way, I got unjustly INDICTED for attempted kidnapping and molestation" that's one thing.

But implying that you'd rather see a kid killed than have yourself merely get YELLED at is something the public is not going to forgive you for.
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
Zatoth said of the woman in Pennsylvania convicted for not pulling the child out of the river: "i think the woman who was charged was a target of judicial activism-that is, they feel that they have to make an example of SOMEBODY, even if the situation was not the person's fault. i would have appealed that."

The woman did and lost. I raised the question of what did happen with the appeal several months back on another thread here, and this was the response:

http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,159716,160273#msg-160273

K-Man asked: “We have discussed this a few times here.

“Link (take spaces out of ‘w w w’:

http://w w w.post-gazette.com/pg/05278/582741.stm

“This was reaction to the verdict against Susan Newkirk, the Pennsylvania woman convicted and sentenced to 9–18 months in jail in 2005 after her boyfriend's toddler drowned in a flooded river in 2004. The prosecution claimed that she had a 'duty' to try to save the boy, even though she couldn't swim and did tell the father immediately. Many who responded to this news believed that the sentence would be overturned on appeal. But what did happen?”

Nemo posted in response: “Per the docket and briefs appended to a table decision on Westlaw, her conviction for child endangerment was affirmed on September 5, 2006, after her defense team tried to argue that the trial court erred in allowing Daddy Dearest not to testify.”
Re: Just watched a young woman pull a toddler out of oncoming traffic only to get shouted at by the mother for touching her kid, what kind of shit has just flabbergasted you Reddit?
April 21, 2012
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lenona
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paragon schnitzophonic
Breeders don't seem to understand that when somebody saves your child from certain injury and/or death, the proper fucking response is, "THANK YOU." They keep this shit up, one day a kid is going to run out into a busy intersection and get struck and killed because everybody finds it better to pretend they didn't see anything than help. And then the breeders will want to go on the news and there will be endless sensationalist topics like, "Have Americans become heartless?" and nobody will have the balls to say that nobody wants to fucking help these people anymore because they're no longer expected to show a little fucking gratitude.

Um, if you're going to say "the last time I snatched a child out of harm's way, I got unjustly INDICTED for attempted kidnapping and molestation" that's one thing.

But implying that you'd rather see a kid killed than have yourself merely get YELLED at is something the public is not going to forgive you for.

How would you know nowadays, what will happen to you, if you DO stick your neck out and rescue a toadler...and the parent wants it to really be killed? Would she, out of spite, try and have me charged with attempted kidnapping if I grabbed the kyd away from a moving vehicle? Would she accuse me of something I didn't do, just so she didn't look like a bad parent?

I saw an incident on TV where a young man was tossed in jail and accused of child abduction because he was trying to help a little girl find her moo...which had vanished. He found a group of moos outside of the store and asked if she belonged to any of them. Next thing this poor kyd knew, he was being arrested and tossed in jail.

Call me fucking heartless....but since breeders have made it so difficult and injurious to myself to save their brats from certain doom, I"ll probably look the other way too.
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