Moo butthurt because doctor stood up to her ridiculous demands.

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ashari
It's not exactly reasonable to judge a person's motivations or abilities on the basis of one or two posts from them, nor to lump them in with every other professional that may have fallen short of our personal standards. It's no more reasonable or useful to make uninformed judgments about their career choices, which are really none of our business.

Let's leave the Eau de Moo in the diaper aisle.

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law
That said, I have never gotten the impression that Amy was any more self-involved than the rest of us. I think she has a valid point - doctors have needs too, and if I were an asthmatic doctor being asked to work on some daft idiot who doused herself in baby powder and White Shoulders, there might be a problem. A hospital should be a sterile environment that is hospitable for EVERYONE there, those who need help and those who provide it. Personal preferences for scents and atmospheres shouldn't even really be an argument. If you want to give birth or have surgery in a suite decked out like Shangri-La, shop around for a hospital that has it. Like, WTF.

These days, many offices have no perfume policies because of the needs of others who also work there. I think not having a headache or asthma attack at work isn't asking too much. "Needing" to smell like Vanilla Sugar isn't a need as opposed to people who need to breathe AIR or to be able to see.

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“Alive” is not an acceptable minimum standard.

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zatoth
the hospital is not your spa.

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law
That said, I have never gotten the impression that Amy was any more self-involved than the rest of us. I think she has a valid point - doctors have needs too, and if I were an asthmatic doctor being asked to work on some daft idiot who doused herself in baby powder and White Shoulders, there might be a problem. A hospital should be a sterile environment that is hospitable for EVERYONE there, those who need help and those who provide it. Personal preferences for scents and atmospheres shouldn't even really be an argument. If you want to give birth or have surgery in a suite decked out like Shangri-La, shop around for a hospital that has it. Like, WTF.

These days, many offices have no perfume policies because of the needs of others who also work there. I think not having a headache or asthma attack at work isn't asking too much. "Needing" to smell like Vanilla Sugar isn't a need as opposed to people who need to breathe AIR or to be able to see.

I agree.

The hospital has to consider the well-being of all patients, and also its staff.

Anything which makes a medical experience more pleasant for the patient should be allowed--unless it has a negative impact on the staff or another patient.

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zatoth
the hospital is not your spa.

Exactly. No one wants to be in a hospital (or they shouldn't want to if they had any sense). Hospitals are like public bathrooms. So, do your business and get the fuck out. Shit the loaf, take out the cyst, get the IV etc. The yellow pages are full of spas....deal with that pampering stuff when you get out.

If moo wanted all of that extra stuff, she should've looked into homebirfin' or birthing centers. I think people are reacting so negatively to moo in this thread because everyone is tired of the same mooing and lowing. People have been shitting loaves for centuries. It is nothing special. And no amount of candles and private symphonies or udder rubs will change the fact that moo is giving birth to another resource sucking parasite who will suffer and die like all humans do. By giving birth, you are giving death. People are just tired of the moos requiring worship for giving "lyfe". Cockroaches can breed...life is full of trouble and ends in death. Mothers are not doing anything special--except adoptive mothers.

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catharsist
I'm sorry, but breeders keep acting like they are birthing the next messiah. If they really wanted to feel like they were birthing the messiah, they should give birth in a barn.

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mumofsixbirds
Moo will get aromatherapy alright...the aroma of shit, piss and blood.

That aromatherapy will be accompanied by an excruciating tearing sensation down below....as a new vaginabutthole is created. This is a gift from her new loaf...and it hasn't even been on the planet for five minutes yet.

The piped-in music? That is her farting as she passes log after log after log...followed by the shriek of a slimy, bloody loaf that will drain every ounce of life from her marriage, social life, bank account and sanity forever...with no hope of escape.

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bell_flower
People have no idea how horrible fragrance sensitivities are. It's not a matter of preference--some scents make me truly and violently ill. Some brands of perfume are particularly bad. That said, I am not a prima donna about it, but if I'm required to be somewhere to do my job, I cannot work in a heavily scented environment and I will get sick. Not worth it.

I didn't ask to be this way. I like how perfume smells for about a milisecond then it turns on me. I wish I could be "normal," but I'm not. The asthma attack is controllable but the headache is worse.

Last year I went on business trip to another facility with a co-irker. At the site one of the admin people had on some heavily-applied perfume that was a trigger scent for me. I started getting sick. I told my co-irker, typical insensitive macho guy, that it was bothering me and I was getting into trouble. He was like, it can't be that bad. I quietly caught a ride back to the hotel with one of the female managers on the site. She was very kind. She had to pull the car over so I could vomit. I had to tell her why I was sick. She said she didn't like the person's perfume either. She found the scent cloying and it was heavily applied, and although it didn't make her sick, it annoyed her because of that. Even if I liked perfume, some people DROWN THEMSELVES IN IT. It's there, hanging in the air, ten minutes after they leave. GROSS.

I have phenergan suppositories just for occasions like these and I used them when I got back to the hotel, but it was already too late. I can VOMIT UNTIL I BREAK BLOOD VESSELS IN MY FACE in these situations and I was sick until midnight.

We went back to the plant the next day and the perfume smell wasn't so bad. The manager probably said something to her employee.

I'm not a jerk about it. I don't go to work and say, NOBODY CAN WEAR PERFUME. It hasn't really come up. There is someone a few quads down who wears a bad one some days and I just stay away from her. I used to sit next to a guy in another job who wore a heavy aftershave that bothered me. I asked him if he could tone it down and explained to him that I have asthma and migraines and I apologized profusely. I should, because I'm asking someone for an accommodation. I ran a fan at my desk; he toned it down and it wasn't a problem.

If I were in a situation where a Moo wanted to burn incense while she calved, I probably couldn't be there. Hopefully another nurse could be found. If not, someone in charge would have to make a decision, and I think someone not getting ill and being able to do his/her medical job is the important point here. At least, that's how I would decide. If nobody is sensitive and a customer wants to have scents and none of the workers cares, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

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SlumSlut
Hey folks. I just had a colonoscopy and they DID ask me what kind of music I'd like (i asked for classical or smooth jazz and got smooth jazz) and they DID dim the lights, but i think that was a normal part of the procedure.

They also gave me as many blankets as i wanted while i was waiting, and there were nice pictures of country scenery like i see when i go on vacation.

So, whoever said they wanted dim lights and m usic of their choice at their next colonoscopy, I suggest you find a better facility where they do that. PM me and i'll tell you where i had mine done, although it's probably not in the same part of the country.

• Scented candles
• Trickling waterfall in the corner
• Compliments from the staff on the beauty of your digestive system
• Foot massage during, back massage after
• Nubile, scantily-clad creature feeding you peeled grapes
• Happy ending

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SlumSlut
Hey folks. I just had a colonoscopy and they DID ask me what kind of music I'd like (i asked for classical or smooth jazz and got smooth jazz) and they DID dim the lights, but i think that was a normal part of the procedure.

They also gave me as many blankets as i wanted while i was waiting, and there were nice pictures of country scenery like i see when i go on vacation.

So, whoever said they wanted dim lights and m usic of their choice at their next colonoscopy, I suggest you find a better facility where they do that. PM me and i'll tell you where i had mine done, although it's probably not in the same part of the country.

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law
I've had an endoscopy before. There were no sounds of trickling water, music, massages, or aromatherapy. I did get a warm blanket though. Quite frankly the drugs were all the amenity I could ask for.