SAHMoos on Disabiltiy - Cafe Mom Smackdown

I'm gonna need to break out the popcorn for this one.

Hoo boy. I'm hearing about this crap from my younger sister. She became a paralegal a few years back and works in a law office that specializes in disability claims. She said it alternately breaks her heart and pisses her off, depending on the clientele she sees that day. The cows are the absolute worst. They walk in, surrounded by some of the most ill-behaved crack monkeys in existence, plop their fat asses in the chair and proceed to tell my sister that they have to get on disability, working is just toooooo haaaard, can't the gob't understand that it's all she can do to take care of her kids (at this point, the kids have half dismantled my sister's work area) and when will the checks start? When Sister explains that it will be a lengthy, detailed process, faux-disabled cow has a meltdown and screams at my sister as if to blame her. Meanwhile, my sister is sitting behind the desk with her leg discretely elevated. She's between surgeries to fix injuries she suffered in a car wreck several months ago. She'll never have the same mobility as before the accident, but wouldn't even consider not working. As she told me "there's this thing called 'pride'. I'd take any kind of job over sucking off the public tit."

If you have the ability to shit out kids and wrangle them, you can work. After all, isn't having kids SO MUCH HARD WORK???

It's always fun to see the moos turn on each other. Yes, I'm going to hell for that.

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If you have the ability to shit out kids and wrangle them, you can work. After all, isn't having kids SO MUCH HARD WORK???

Yeah, I thought these broads were so much better suited for the workplace than the childfree.

I love how so many of the people on disability have these fun genetic goodies that they had no problem handing to their little kiddies. Superior DNA my ass.

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The title of "good parent" doesnt come freely from me. If you choose to dabble in creating new life, then my opinions of your actions will be harsher and my praise will be harder to elicit. It's a tradeoff. If you are foolhardy and shortsighted enough to try your hand at playing God, you best be willing to live up to the expectations that come with such a station. Hopefully you'll find SOME relief in your contention, as I have yet to see a generation who has...
Godspeed, Catharsist

When I read this quote from FB:
"U know the Devil is soooooooool busy! Hes trying evrything he can to spread his NASTINESS...... but u know what i say......HOLYGHOST FIRE!!!! IN JESUS NAME AMEN."
I LOL every time.

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satansbitch
It's always fun to see the moos turn on each other. Yes, I'm going to hell for that.

Well I guess I'm going with you then. Schadenfreude is one of my favorite things ever.

these women make me ill and set back women's rights about 100 years.

The posted question in the thread is eminently fair:

"How are people on disability able to have children?

"Serious question here. Said person is sooooo disabled they must live off others for the rest of their lives BUT not so disabled they can have and properly care for children??

"I don't get it. And I don't approve! Either people are lying and are able to work OR their neglecting their children bc their in too much pain, too depressed or whatever to raise kids."

Notice how defensive those on disability who responded to the OP were.

The issue many of us have is this: we all know of people who successfully gamed the disability system, while other people with genuine problems were refused or had to jump through hoops and wait years to be approved. Much depends on the particular state, as I have heard a number of times in states such as Kentucky of whole families in which every adult in the household receives disability. These people clearly know which doctors to use, etc., just as those receiving the "crazy money" (for autards and the like) for every one of their kyds know which doctors will help them in their quest for handouts.

As I commented in a recent thread discussing other government programs, we pay taxes through the nose for years to fund these programs, but if we should happen to need them one day, we're told we don't qualify. Others who contributed little or nothing get the benefits seemingly immediately.

And it seems to be the latter people who somehow are always too disabled to work, but are never too disabled to sprog or care for their chyldren. Sluicing a loaf should be cause for immediate termination of disability payments.

That OP was totally a troll post, and not a very good one, either.

The real question is not "how do disabled people take care of their kids" but "how can people who collect disability/social security justify having MORE kids they can't afford", like that Martienne from the hoarding thread. "ohh my back hurts soooo much i can't put my used tampon in the wastebasket but WAIT i can spread my legs and get laid without using birth control no problem! OMG I'm pregnant again! How that shit go?"

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

Many of the anonymous posters on Cafe Mom are trolls. But, they bring plenty of real moos out of the woodwork don't they? It's entitlement city. Yes, I agree that the big question here is why isn't the legitimacy of one's disability questioned when they continue to sprog after being approved for payments, especially when they are the primary care providers of said sprogs.

My sister has a friend that was "awarded" SSI after having one babybee and only paying into the system for a year. Then she had 3 more kyds in 5 years. She still continues to receive payments on top of extra payments for sprogging. Never during this process was she summoned to prove that she still couldn't work. She just sent in birth certificate after birth certificate so they could send her bigger checks.

One of the posters spouted this nugget:

You want to start controlling breeding based on disability status, you're opening a can of worms that is not easily resealed.
Next it'll be birth control for people on welfare and a year after they get off it, anyone with autism, no matter where they are on the spectrum, no one with a heriditory illness that has a 40 percent chance or higher of passing on, no one who's ever had cancer or an organ replaced, any one who's miscarried two or more times, no one with any mental disorder. And somewhere down the line there will be SOMETHING that makes you unable to qualify to have children, op. Maybe not something here but something equally unfair of someone else to declare "no babies for you".

Who said anything about resealing the can? This kinda of breeding control is exactly what's needed to avoid the devolution of humanity. We as a species need to take a much harsher stance on population control and these are fairly decent guidelines.

Commenter: You want to start controlling breeding based on disability status, you're opening a can of worms that is not easily resealed.
Next it'll be birth control for people on welfare and a year after they get off it, anyone with autism, no matter where they are on the spectrum, no one with a heriditory illness that has a 40 percent chance or higher of passing on, no one who's ever had cancer or an organ replaced, any one who's miscarried two or more times, no one with any mental disorder. And somewhere down the line there will be SOMETHING that makes you unable to qualify to have children, op. Maybe not something here but something equally unfair of someone else to declare "no babies for you".

I, for one, see absolutely nothing with opening this particular can of worms. Maybe if there were some quality control when it came to humans breeding, we would have LESS autism, LESS genetic diseases, LESS mental disorders. We would see more quality breeding and less quantity breeding.

I, for one, think that controlling human breeding is an excellent idea, and as jayjay had pointed out, issuing parenting licenses would be a good start to doing that.

Birth control SHOULD be mandatory for anyone on the government dole.

I totally agree. Although this is the only place I can actually admit it.

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michaela

"A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends, and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt, will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter." -Jonathan Swift, A Modest Proposal

Did you check out this gem? Bolding mine.

"I have MS, degenerative nerve disorder. i have numbness in my arm and legs, i cannot sit or stand for any period of time. I go through periods of incontinence, (YES I am under the age of thirty and wear diapers most days) I have muscle spasms and weakness in my arms.  I cannot drive, i do not have a license, i have a husband who works from home and a large extended family to help me on my bad days. i do physical therapy. and take many pills a day. i am able to manage, but there is always someone with me, i get no alone time. no i can't  lift my own daugther, but i can get on the floor and play with her, i can change her diaper, make her food, give her a bath, but i am never alone, it really sucks. so with all that, i should be denied the joy of having and taking care of my own child? "

And they call us selfish?

Except that you AREN'T taking care of your own child. Everybody else has to pitch in. And when that poor kid hits school-age, she gets the "privilege" of turning into a young caregiver because a selfish cunt like you sees nothing wrong in making your child give up her childhood and adolescence to take care of your sorry ass. And you probably justify it as that you went through so much to have her and raise her "despite" your disability, that your child now "owes" you.

Disabled people having kids is a berserk button for me. Young caregivers have an undue amount of stress before they're old enough to really handle it effectively. It's bad enough when it's circumstances beyond one's control, like a parent has cancer. But if you're disabled already and intentionally have a child, you're a piece of shit.

I still can't wrap my head around the fact that there are people who want children despite having significantly life-altering disabilities. If parenting is "the hardest job you'll ever have", why impede your quality of life even further by being caregiver of someone who needs round-the-clock care? I guess the disability checks are some sort of vicarious "payoff" for being a doctor, cook, coach, chauffeur, or any other self-professed title that breeders bullshit themselves with.

"no i can't lift my own daugther, but i can get on the floor and play with her, i can change her diaper, make her food, give her a bath"


wait...she can't lift her kid but can give her a bath? how is that safe? this will end in tears.

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bell_flower
Did you check out this gem? Bolding mine.

"I have MS, degenerative nerve disorder. i have numbness in my arm and legs, i cannot sit or stand for any period of time. I go through periods of incontinence, (YES I am under the age of thirty and wear diapers most days) I have muscle spasms and weakness in my arms.  I cannot drive, i do not have a license, i have a husband who works from home and a large extended family to help me on my bad days. i do physical therapy. and take many pills a day. i am able to manage, but there is always someone with me, i get no alone time. no i can't  lift my own daugther, but i can get on the floor and play with her, i can change her diaper, make her food, give her a bath, but i am never alone, it really sucks. so with all that, i should be denied the joy of having and taking care of my own child? "

And they call us selfish?

What a selfish little cunt. That poor kid will spend its childohod caring for it's useless incubator who was too selfish to not breed. This is why we need mandatory sterilization. Yes, we do need to bring it back for the thoughtless breeders who willings bring children into crappy lives.

Today is one of those days that I wish I could quit work and get disability.

Ah, I do feel some kind of heriditory disorder belching forth ~

I likely *do have* several things wrong with me.

It's the opposite though - these are things (chem exposure as example) - that are reasons I *do not* have government paychecks kids. Why can't one get money or tax credits for *doing the responsible thing*???

Gah.

Society is so fucked up. Wait for it - they start banning abortion and BC, they'll make the CF start adopting kids because there's no $ for orphanages. People leaving babies on doorsteps? Wait til the gov buses start handing them out like a Fed Ex of surplus loaves.

Paranoia! <- TOLD YOU I was "disabled"!

Gonna go wait by mail box for gov paycheck now, brb.

Shit?
I will shit it out and pretend I take care of it.