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Topic Don't want kids? Don't delay having them any longer!Posted by ladybug2203
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/161005/jewish/Should-We-Have-Children.htm *facepalm* A couple is wondering if they should have kids or not (though it seems like they don't want them) but asks if they should and here is the mans response, my commentary in red: My suggestion: do not delay having children any longer. Yes please do! You owe it to yourself, your future children, your parents, the universe and G-d.Here we go with the skydaddy again For yourself: A parent experiences boundless love. No they don'tWhile you can love your spouse deeply, the unconditional and uncontrollable love for a child is unmatched in creation.Excuse you?! That poor spouse! And the miracle of watching an embryo become a live being with feelings, needs and a personality that is an extension of yours is an experience that no one should choose to miss. Sperm and egg meeting is a miracle? For your future children:They don't even exist! Although we only meet them when they are born, our children's souls are waiting in a celestial transit area for their time to come down to earth.Oh my fuckity fuck There are souls that are destined to be parented by you and your wife,puhleeze! eagerly awaiting their chance to be born. I can almost hear them egging you on, hoping that your decision will turn in their favor.Maybe thats just the voices inside your head pal For your parents: You can only appreciate all that your parents did for you by in turn doing the same for your child.You mean making me a slave to an autard? Oh yes I'm so appreciative! Nahhhh this celestial plane you speak of sounds far more appealing. And the best "thank you" you can give your parents is giving them grandchildren.I don't owe them shit! I didn't ask to be here, they CHOSE to have me. ![]() For the universe: Our parents may not have been perfect, but whoever they were, they bothered to bring us into this world.Oh thank you so much for fucking without a condom! How ever will I repay you? And they were brought into this world by parents who were willing to go through the same thing, and so on throughout the ages. Worship the moo almighty!The fact that we are here is a result of countless generations of procreation. They have given us the greatest gift of all -- the gift of life. A "gift" doesn't require anything in return, so demanding grandchildren in return doesn't make it a gift now does it? Major Are you honestly saying that you are willing to break this chain of giving in order to maintain your current lifestyle?You mean break the chain of the lifescript! ABSOFRICKENLUTELY!For G-d: Here we go again.....For whatever reason, G-d wants us to feel what it's like to be like Him. You mean creating floods, being the number one abortion provider, having lots of magical powers and damning anyone who doesn't worship me? Sign me up!So He invested in us the power of creation. The drive to procreate is the most powerful instinct because it is the most G-dlike. I'm not feeling it....G-d has offered to share His divinity with you by becoming a parent. Will you turn down such an offer?Yes I will. Sadly there are those who for medical or circumstantial reasons are presently unable to become parents. They can find other means to bring love and life to the world, and many of the world's greatest souls were childless. But if you do have the option, can you possibly pass up the chance to participate in the most profound act of love that a human can achieve?Yes.
Fact check: before the advent of reliable birth control, there wasn't much of a choice. It wasn't a matter of "bothering" to do it or being "willing", it was through a sense of resignation that it would take onerous and not 100% reliable means to stop the process. Idiot
This.. Is.. Fucking insane.. I hope those people don't fall for this bullshit. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The title of "good parent" doesnt come freely from me. If you choose to dabble in creating new life, then my opinions of your actions will be harsher and my praise will be harder to elicit. It's a tradeoff. If you are foolhardy and shortsighted enough to try your hand at playing God, you best be willing to live up to the expectations that come with such a station. Hopefully you'll find SOME relief in your contention, as I have yet to see a generation who has... Godspeed, Catharsist When I read this quote from FB: "U know the Devil is soooooooool busy! Hes trying evrything he can to spread his NASTINESS...... but u know what i say......HOLYGHOST FIRE!!!! IN JESUS NAME AMEN." I LOL every time.
Uhm, sound like a jew to me. They usually don't use God -as a word- but G-d. And they try to be breederific -with very few success, I might add- Poor idiotic sould if they listen to him. _______________________ “I was talking about children that have not been properly house-trained. Left to their own impulses and indulged by doting or careless parents almost all children are yahoos. Loud, selfish, cruel, unaffectionate, jealous, perpetually striving for attention, empty-headed, for ever prating or if words fail them simply bawling, their voices grown huge from daily practice: the very worst company in the world. But what I dislike even more than the natural child is the affected child, the hulking oaf of seven or eight that skips heavily about with her hands dangling in front of her -- a little squirrel or bunny-rabbit -- and prattling away in a baby's voice.” ― Patrick O'Brian, The Truelove lib'-er-ty: the freedom given to you to make the wrong decision, based on the reasoned belief that you will normally make the right one.
Yeah, it's Jewish, of the more ah - hard core type. Reform Jews are not so - intense - for lack of a better word. Check out the comments on there also. Erg. I'm still trying to fathom this 'Celestial Transit Area'. ??? You know what I was thinking about the other day? This 'past life' stuff. I can't say I really believe in that, but some people seem to. Here's the thing though - why is it that people who claim to remember these 'past lives' - it's always an interesting life? Why do you never hear stuff like - yeah - in my past life I was a moron who didn't know or do shit? Or - in my past life - I was a rock. How come you don't hear these types talking about the 'Celestial Transit Area' either? And when people have these 'near death experiences' - they claim they go to 'the afterlife', or 'Heaven' - well how do they know that they're not in the Celestial Transit Area? How can they be sure they're not in some waiting room of Hell? Religion makes little sense to me. But Lord - if you'd like me to 'see the light' - you can convince me by sending me a winning lottery ticket! ![]()
It read like some tacky used-car salesman, yelling at a confused couple standing there...trying to sell them a beat up 75 Ford Pinto. I could literally see it in my head....walking around the car, wearing a full-on polyester suit, shouting in their faces....onion breath wafting their way. Convincing them that the Ford Pinto is the ONLY g-ddamned car that they should own, because it's what their fathers drove...and their father's fathers.....and it's their obligation to continue driving a shitty, unreliable car because it's a gift to drive it. "It's what G-d expects you to drive!" I imagine the couple looking at each other, shrugging their shoulders, wondering why they bothered to ask that nutcase about such a stupid car.
Sure, tell that to the Menendezes.
Did you have anything that even passes for EVIDENCE for this wild-ass claim? Didn't think so. I won't even ask for hard proof.
My parents were drug addicts who foisted the responsibility of raising me off on THEIR parents. 'So yeah, thanks mom and dad! I am sure I owe you..nothing.' In fact the only stability I had in my life at all was with my grandparents, until my mom got clean, but now she has passed on and therefore doesn't care whether I have kids, and my father already has grandchildren he doesn't ever visit. He doesn't even visit ME. And I'm supposed to have kids for him? Fuck you.
Who gives a flying fuck? You can say the exact same thing about cockroaches. If I wanted to imitate my parents, I'd be doing heroin.
YES, YES I AM. Please die in a fire.
Well, that's funny since G-d destroys as much as he supposedly creates, which is why humans have just as much power of destruction, I suppose. I've read your religious writings, the "G-d" portrayed therein is an asshole. It makes no sense, there is no "G-d." Now please die in a fire.
Dorisan: (and all as well): It strikes me these bingo shills are increasing in intensity, shrillness, and near hysteria as BC becomes better. It is all to blind women that they can achieve a hell of a lot without having to breed. There are industires upon industries that only profit if they breed. And the welfare is a whole other kettle of fish: the industry has adapted itself for them as well. It just proves that business and those in charge just view the 'commoners' as cattle. The breeders provide all the fodder they need to live comfortably: after all, why raise the kids: just hire nannies, send them to boarding school then summer camp. What a gas. two cents ¢¢ CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!! people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong: The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child. If I want to hear the pitter-patter of little feet I'll put shoes on my pets. Mankind and its needs (wants) are like unto a black hole. It devours all available resources and it never is full: it merely grows larger and demands more. Definition of 'wealthy': Anyone who makes more/has more than you do. Someone pointed out that I'm a realist. And all along I thought I was just a pessimist crossed with a cynic. Entitlement, thy name is mooooooooooooooo "Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen. Add to this that, many of those who refuse or are unable to prove they are citizens, will receive free insurance paid for by those who are."" Politicians are like diapers: both need changing regularly.
My biological mother was a toothless drug addict who pawned me off on a preacher and his family 'to babysit until things got better', and then just shrugged and said "Oh, you guys can keep her if you want. You all seem really nice." And even then that was only when the preacher's wife (my Mom, the only mother I've ever known) was flipping out because I needed checkups and she got all kinds of suspicious questions when she took me! I also am told that I have an older sister and brother that bio-moo gave away, too. So no, she did not 'bother bringing me into the world'. I was an accident that she had to get rid of, and fortunately I ended up with a wonderful family instead of getting lost in the system. Although since she gave THREE of us (that we know of) away, I often wonder if she simply lacked maternal instinct/desire and if it's genetic, since I obviously don't have it, either.
My moo obviously was not happy with mootherhood and made sure I knew she resented all she had to do for me. From what I've heard her moo may have had the same attitude. I sure as hell don't want to raise a child. I wonder if there is something genetic going on. One of the reasons I don't like organized religion in general is they are all breederific.
Question: My wife and I long ago decided against having children. We are happy with our lives and don't feel that we need the added burden of parenthood. But recently we saw a documentary about a Jewish family with 17 kids, and it got us talking. Although my opinion hasn't changed, my wife is not so sure. What do you suggest? He answered his own question in the first two sentences. She saw a documentary that put the Waltonsteins to shame and she's baby rabid at the moment, but it too shall pass. ![]() ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much? I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
My mother wanted kids, so I must want them to? I suppose that sounds logical to someone who thinks my personality is nothing more than an extension of my parents' personalities. Once you start seeing people as individuals none of that tripe makes sense. I don't owe my ancestors further descendents. I'm sure my ancestors from 1000 years ago have had plenty of opportunity to see (relatively speaking, since they don't 'see' anything now) their genetic contributions spread through the population (it is quite unlikely that I'm the last of that line!) in an ever decreasing proportion of the total genes a person carries. By now they're probably diluted to less than 1%. But, sure, let's breed on their behalf! It sure beats doing something on behalf of myself, although I'm the only one of us who is alive and will have to deal with the consequences of the action.
"Although we only meet them when they are born, our children's souls are waiting in a celestial transit area for their time to come down to earth" LSD much? " And the best "thank you" you can give your parents is giving them grandchildren." "I don't owe them shit! I didn't ask to be here, they CHOSE to have me. " 1) THIS. 2) if one DID want to pay back ones parents in some way, wouldn't helping THEM somehow make more sense than creating more BURDENS? "The fact that we are here is a result of countless generations of procreation" so, in other words, A LOT OF FUCKING. "They have given us the greatest gift of all -- the gift of life" I'd rather have a MONSTER TRUCK. "Celestial Transit Area? Sounds like a bus stop." "Next stop: Fairyland" "Are you honestly saying that you are willing to break this chain of giving in order to maintain your current lifestyle?" Yes! ![]() "For your future children" dear non-existant brats: FUCK OFF!!! "a personality that is an extension of yours..." Like I need another ME to ANNOY ME with my own ANNOYING CHARACTERISTICS. "a Jewish family with 17 kids" that's a LOT of CRAPPY Haunakka presents. "I DON'T NEED ANOTHER FUCKING DREIDLE!!"
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