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I am in the South, but I'm in Austin, which is fairly "progressive." (Liberal, anyway.) I do keep reading that one must be 25 years of age AND/or (probably and) shat out three kidlets, but despite popular belief that "rule" is not set in stone; it is a popular guideline.
I am looking at studying abroad in the next 2-3 years. Specifically, I'm looking to go to Edinburgh, Scotland. I have no clue how breederific Scotland is. I didn't recall seeing brats misbehaving near their owners when I visited back in '09.
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I don't figure that I will be successful before age twenty-five for sure. I am still a kid in most folks' eyes. I figured I'd begin the research now so that I am prepared when I do get someone to listen.
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Doctors in Alabama are terrified they might get the reputation of an "abortion" doctor because many of the religious fundies in that area consider sterilization a form of abortion because it keeps babies who WOULD have been born from being born. I realize how fantastic a claim this seems to be, but it's the God's honest truth. I contacted EVERY FUCKING DOCTOR in the state of Alabama and NONE would do it, period. The main excuses cited from the out of area doctors' offices was I had to already be a regular patient for them to perform a tubal and/or the 2 kid rule, but the REAL reason is it's against their religious beliefs, which a few had the balls to admit.:headbrick
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Also I'm from Alabama....KK is right. They are ass backwards there.
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What is up with that part of the country anyway? I've been reading about Alabama's neighboring state of Mississippi and how it only has ONE abortion clinic in the whole state!:hs Not only that, but they're threatening to shut down this ONE clinic thus making it impossible to get a legal abortion in Mississippi. If outlawing abortion were to ever happen in the US, I'm positive that area of the country would be the first to do it:bayybee
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I haven't done as much research as you, Michaela, but I originally thought I'd like to have Essure but now lean towards a tubal ligation. *If I recall correctly* 1) Tubal ligation requires a general anesthetic (I don't like to be awake for these types of procedures:redface) 2) I don't like the idea of sticking foreign objects into my body unless it's a life-threatening condition and 3) Essure requires a 3 month wait then a confirmation test which I've heard can be rather uncomfortable for someone that's never given birth. Whichever procedure you end up choosing, I wish you the best of luck.
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In case you're wanting an answer the southern US is backwards. The south THINKS it's keeping a hold on "family values" or some such crap. Southern states, including, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia and Texas, I think I've covered all of them, pride themselves on being "good Christians" and having "honesty." ALL the south is doing is being backwards and ignorant. If the southern states had their way women would never do anything more stand in a kitchen being barefoot and pregnant. For some reason these states are proud of thier ignorance.
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What is up with that part of the country anyway? I've been reading about Alabama's neighboring state of Mississippi and how it only has ONE abortion clinic in the whole state!:hs Not only that, but they're threatening to shut down this ONE clinic thus making it impossible to get a legal abortion in Mississippi. If outlawing abortion were to ever happen in the US, I'm positive that area of the country would be the first to do it:bayybee
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I haven't done as much research as you, Michaela, but I originally thought I'd like to have Essure but now lean towards a tubal ligation. *If I recall correctly* 1) Tubal ligation requires a general anesthetic (I don't like to be awake for these types of procedures:redface) 2) I don't like the idea of sticking foreign objects into my body unless it's a life-threatening condition and 3) Essure requires a 3 month wait then a confirmation test which I've heard can be rather uncomfortable for someone that's never given birth. Whichever procedure you end up choosing, I wish you the best of luck.
In case you're wanting an answer the southern US is backwards. The south THINKS it's keeping a hold on "family values" or some such crap. Southern states, including, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia and Texas, I think I've covered all of them, pride themselves on being "good Christians" and having "honesty." ALL the south is doing is being backwards and ignorant. If the southern states had their way women would never do anything more stand in a kitchen being barefoot and pregnant. For some reason these states are proud of thier ignorance.
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I'm doing some research right now to figure out if Essure or a tubal ligation is a better option for me. I'm looking at recovery time, cost, the actual procedures, failure rate, complications, what's better for my age, physique, and activity level, and so forth.
So far:
- I should be able to obtain either one legally because I am 18 and I consent. I know what I do and don't want out of life.
- I have heard of the difference between the two as being akin to the difference between simply blocking a bridge (Essure) or detonating it (tubal.)
- From Essure's site: Effectiveness
Tubal
98.45% at 1 year
98.69% at 5 years
98.15% at 10 years
Essure
99.95% at 1 year
99.8% at 4 years- Approximate cost: Essure @ ~$1500, TL @ ~$2500-3000 out of pocket. My university insurance does not cover jack shit unless you are an athlete or a preggo bitch. I guess Texas Women's Health Program is still active, but severely crippled.
- I came across a women's health forum full of complaints about slippage, expulsion, traveling implants, perforation, etc. with Essure. Ninety percent of them had kids. I know that the uterus changes drastically after pregnancy, possibly like a deflated balloon. All bodies are different, blah blah blah, but could that affect how well they can retain the implants?
- I am a little bitch when it comes to pain. Sure, the temporary pain of Essure (if it goes as planned) is preferable to 20 years of having a kid, but I could get knocked the fuck out instead and go with the tubal.
- I would need more recovery time with the tubal.
- Either procedure should allow me to get ablated within a reasonable amount of time. I may sound a little narcissistic, but I don't think I need periods since I'm not having children. It's messy and expensive. I think that dropping a few hundred to a few thousand ONCE compared to dropping several grand on supplies seems like a deal.
- Tubals have been around a lot longer and more doctors are trained to administer them. Essure is still relatively new.
- I am overweight, but not severely. I am not technically/medically obese. The fatter one is, the riskier surgery can be. This may be less of a problem with Essure.
- I am severely allergic to ibuprofen/aspirin. Forgive my ignorance, but I have no clue what is in anesthesia. (I've been to the doc thrice since my birth, excluding any checkups that I can't remember: once for said allergic reaction, another for the time I had scarlet fever, a third time for them to diagnose me with plantar fasciitis.)
- I already know what risks I face as far as being rejected for my age and non-childed-ness.
EDITS v v v- I don't plan on having ALL THE SEX, I just want my uterus to be as inhospitable as possible.
- I do not want to consider hormonal birth control. See the fat thing 4 bullets up - last thing I need is more fat.
Can anyone who has done more research than I have offer anything? Perhaps any factors I have not yet considered? Women who have been sterilized, did you weigh your options similarly?
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Then I pulled out the, "If I get inpig it could kill me" card, and that didn't work either EVEN WITH a doctor's excuse from my neurologist AND at the age of 42. Their responses to that included, "You could get "at risk" care", "Your condition could change and THEN you could change your mind", "I am in the business of bringing babies into the world, NOT preventing them", and, "How does your husband feel about this?", followed by advice about how we NEED, "one of our own" and it being in God's hands and whatnot. Doctors down there won't even do a scheduled tubal on a Moo who has shat the two loaves UNLESS she's still on the table from sluicing.
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Georgia does suck. A while back, there was a KKK rally two miles from me. The tubal after two kids and while the moo is still on the table is the preferred way here. Both my mother and sister had them that way when they had their second kid.
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Georgia does suck. A while back, there was a KKK rally two miles from me. The tubal after two kids and while the moo is still on the table is the preferred way here. Both my mother and sister had them that way when they had their second kid.
That's what I thought. And why I'm still shocked I got my tubal so easily. Though like I've said I think it's mainly due to the fact I threatened self harm if I got pregnant and having my therapist back me up through the whole thing.
(The doctor that ended up doing it was so awesome. He looked like a Hawaiian Santa Claus. I baked his jolly ass a cake )