Single Mombies "Forced" To Strip

Let me first say, I hesitated to post the story because it's given a political slant, which I just usually don't tend to discuss politics. Not because I don't have solid views, but because it's a pretty volatile topic.

To me the important part of this article is these mombies crying about how they have no choice but to take off their clothing to support their chyldren. Mind you, one of the women is 18, with a 9-month-old baybee, which means she got knocked up in high school. Neither her or baybee daddy had any kind of job, and both live with her family.

Now, somehow HuffPo is blaming politics for the fact that these 2 kids couldn't figure out how to use a condom, or think about whether they could afford a child.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/31/tampa-strip-club-gop_n_1847559.html

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For Gloria, the election was the last thing on her mind as she dragged herself across the dark, mirrored stage on her knees, shaking her butt like Jell-O. Like many other women here in the strip-club capital of America, she was just hoping to maintain a basic standard of living and support her family.

Her baby's father, who lives with her and her family, can't find work. Her mother is in jail, she said, awaiting sentencing in November after she was convicted of driving a car that was used in a robbery.

"She didn't even know the guy was stealing," Gloria said, as if pleading with a judge. "But she had the [driver's] license, and now there ain't no money for bail or nothing."

Maybe she can aspire to some more honorable job like cleaning the restrooms at the Taco Bell. Hell, I managed to find a job with no prior history...oh, but wait, I actually have some useful skills. Never mind.

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michaela

"A child will make two dishes at an entertainment for friends, and when the family dines alone, the fore or hind quarter will make a reasonable dish, and seasoned with a little pepper or salt, will be very good boiled on the fourth day, especially in winter." -Jonathan Swift, A Modest Proposal

I guess we can be glad she hasn't figured out how to file for WIC and Welfare yet?

I didn't think it was overly political. I took it as they were kind of using the RNC and or elections as a kind of backdrop to discuss the working poor.

I don't think anyone has any answers as to where these 'jobs' are going to come from, either.

Some of these people also - have several strikes against them. No family, family in prison, etc. Sure you can make programs available to them but I don't think creating skilled or more complex jobs (which pay more) will help these people too much. If you don't even have a HS education, have no way to get one, are saddled with kids - its pretty hard to crawl out of a hole like that.

Of course you ought to have the sense not to add on MOAR problems then you already had. Which means KIDS.

If anything you'd think people like this do have enough possibilities as is - I see all these TV ads for health care assistant type schools. They don't take that long, some have daycare, there's loans and grants available.

Same with the construction guy in the article. He could become some kind of 'electronics tech' or mechanic. Again, trade school. He could start his own biz also.

If anything its probably much more difficult to try to get seriously advanced education, MS, Phd, etc. And where are the jobs for these types? Even more rare.

A Single Mawm forced to strip and a disgruntled carpenter aren't going to change much. They aren't the problem, either - they are symptoms of other problems.

And since I'm presently off the clock I don't feel like going into any complex economic theory. Off the top of my head - exported jobs, overly favorable corporate tax rates, deregulation that lead to monopolies and fraud, skewed agra subsidies, *worldwide* economic problems, and so on.

I hate it when they show stories like this to make a political stance. There are a lot of people out there that actually made GOOD decisions that still ended up with a crap lot in life.

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To me the important part of this article is these mombies crying about how they have no choice but to take off their clothing to support their chyldren. Mind you, one of the women is 18, with a 9-month-old baybee, which means she got knocked up in high school. Neither her or baybee daddy had any kind of job, and both live with her family.

I agree with you completely. I don't feel bad for people that made stupid decisions. Got knocked up, decided to keep it and can't afford it? Sucks for you. Bed made. Lie.

How about they actually profile one of the many, many Americans who made the right choices and still find themselves unemployed or underemployed? It might actually get the message across more than profiling idiots with crap for brains that are blaming the results of their stupidity on society.

I just thought of something else, remembered that the article spoke of 'small business'.

What I was reminded of is - there already IS money out there for this! Take the construction guy - there are programs out there for 'green construction'.

I suppose I was reminded of stuff I research about real estate. I look at various 'towns' websites particularly the 'for developers' or 'for business' sections.

There IS 'government money', and tax breaks out there - for numerous types of enterprises.

I mention this because - where one problem lies is - some people are just too dense to try to figure this out. And believe me - the bureaucracy of it all is MIND BOGGLING. However - it has to first occur to you to even *look into this*.

And many of these people simply do not do that. It never even occurs to them. So - what's to be done then? What good does it do them if they never even think of it?

Do they need to be hand held? If you're going to go this route, even starting with the suggestion and then walking them all the way through it - well you would be the entrepreneur then, wouldn't you?

Money and programs will not make people think. You could probably blast them night and day with TV ads and make opening a biz as easy as swiping a Food Stamp card and it still might not sink in.

Did they take the hint about birth control?
(Rhetorical question.)

This is a good topic cfchevygirl and I know what you mean about the political part of it! Not only that, but personally I see NOTHING wrong with the adult entertainment industry as long as it's contained within the scope of consenting adults and doesn't violate any laws. So, what I am about to say regarding this teen being "forced" into this line of work may sound like I am "against" the industry, but I am not. However, as everyone knows or should know, and I remember realizing it at a pre-teen age, the adult entertainment industry CAN be rather unsavory and often times is!

It is undeniably dangerous, full of unhealthy temptations like drugs and prostitution, most ALL of the strippers(if they stay with it long enough) end up at least dabbling in prostitution, hard core porn, and drugs, it often attracts perverts and sexually aggressive men for customers with criminal records, it attracts serial killers for God's sake and HAS since Jack the Ripper, and it's not usually a safe occupation in general either, among many other things. This, "I am working my way through college just dancing" thing is by and large not true, even though it may start out that way. I have a close life long high school friend who succumbed to the lifestyle for nearly a decade down in New Orleans and if she hadn't literally had a one in a million Prince Charming "rescue" her back in 1999, I am convinced she'd be dead, which she agrees.

Anyway,I base a lot of what I think about the "industry" on her experiences and of the struggles of many others she knew during her career "dancing", which she spent little time doing. This isn't the ONLY industry they can make a living, it is simply the EASIEST way to make a fast buck and they are NOT thinking about the long term OR of the consequences. With ALL the social services across the globe offering single moos assistance, for her to say this is her only option is complete horse shit. It's just easier and then she wants to pretend she's on par with an involuntary sex slave or something. Anyone who'd expose their child to this lifestyle does NOT need to have kids, period! Back before Katrina when I routinely went down to NO, there'd be their kids left in parked cars, while mommy "danced", all along the strip joint area in the Red Light District. This is an acceptable practice too, which New Orleans and other cities with strip club districts pretend don't exist.

You'd think with all the people around her landing in jail or worse, she'd have used a condom and done everything she could to ESCAPE this lifestyle. I don't buy into this, "circle-cycle" of abuse ideology. The bad shit I witnessed as a kid made me want to NOT become involved in it or do it!

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!

Exactly it's this "single mombie victim" status that I have had enough of. You are exactly right, Kim, this is not the only job available. It's a job where she can have limited skills and make a lot of money quickly.

It seems that neither she nor her baybee daddy had any kind of realistic plans for the future. And yet, they brought a baby into it all. I can't muster much sympathy for that at all. I seriously doubt that this young girl wasn't living in the exact same situation before she got knocked up; with family that was struggling and with no employment for herself or her boyfriend. So, how on earth they think that bringing a baby into the situation was a good idea?

Zzelda, I will agree that neither party has the answers when it comes to jobs. And I could even have some sympathy if it was for the fact that it was simply people out of work and struggling.

The part I have a problem with is getting knocked up and keeping the baby, when they already can't take care of themselves and apparently can't much rely on their families.

I agree that health care is a possibility for many, considering we as a population are only going to get older and need more and more care. But, I doubt these kids have even considered anything beyond living for the day. Otherwise I have to think they would have realized they cannot care for a baybee, and now that they have this baybee, their possibilities are going to be even more limited.

It doesn't seem like family is much to be relied on if her own mombie is prison-bound for driving a getaway car and it falls on the 18-year-old to take a stripper job to pay the electric bill.

With the construction guy, I can understand his point of view. He was making good money, a very livable wage, and now to go back into that same industry, he'd be making less than half of what he was making before. It would be very hard for anyone to live like that. But, at the very least, he seems to not have decided to bring in other dependents when he can scarcely afford to eke out an existence for himself.

Some people are forced to do things they would rather not do; be it scrub out toilets at Taco Bell, or go into stripping. But, when you're already in a bad situation, to bring a baybee into it when you can't take care of yourself? Just plain stupid and irresponsible.

And let's face it, if she was already knocked up at 17, this is probably not going to be her last baby, by a long shot. She could have given this one up for adoption until she did something to get her life in order and at least be able to make something of herself.

they are saying the stripping is a "bad thing" while it is their "right" to flash their tits in any public place to feed their kids?

The only people forcing these women to strip are the same ones who chose to keep the baby, knowing that they didn't have the ways or means to support said baby. They did it to themselves.

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Everything said sounds like a GREAT argument FOR ABORTION.


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