1 in100 kids are pyschopaths?

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/parenting/one-in-100-children-are-psychopaths-experts-believe-3216212.html

they might certainly act like it, not sure about clinically but hey... I'm not a Dr

So it took a study to learn that the gentle discipline doesn't work in a large majority of kids? Now all we need is a study to come out saying "researches have discovered that spanking your brat promotes good social skills".

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Psychopaths are a particularly frightening group because they are incapable of feeling empathy. They are like sharks and alligators in that their ongoing genetically programmed goal is little more than survival derived. Those are okay traits in certain wild animals, but when combined with a deceptive human exterior and their uncanny talent at mimicking emotions, the realization someone is a psychopath is a scary moment in time. I would be horrified to find out my kid was one because there is no known cure or effective treatment. No one can be taught to feel sorrow, empathy, or compassion.This is a dangerous breed and I think it's frightening so many are being spawned in the recent decades. They often walk, talk, and act like regular people, but they are monsters like Rhoda in The Bad Seed.

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I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!

Only 1 in 100? I would thought it would be higher.

The childfree should be permitted to carry Tasers to correct the behaviour of brats....and their handlers.

Personally, I believe that we all start out as mini-sociopaths (your average toadler, anyone?) and most of are socialized out of it. A small percent of people are unfazed by proper socialization and they remail sociopaths over the course of their lives. The problem is that modern "socialization" in the US has become so piss poor that more kids are allowed to fester, so the line between the truly bad seeds and feral brats who could have been decent people is getting thinner and thinner. Its easier to just label them all as [true] psychopaths than it is to distinguish between brats and genuine lost causes.

At the same time I can see why it's just easier to lump them all together. From a diagnostic perspective there's still a lot to learn about sociopathy. Also, the havoc they wreak on society is pretty much the same, so people who only care about the behavioral outcomes than the genesis aren't really going to care about the distinction.

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pepper labeija
Personally, I believe that we all start out as mini-sociopaths (your average toadler, anyone?) and most of are socialized out of it. A small percent of people are unfazed by proper socialization and they remail sociopaths over the course of their lives. The problem is that modern "socialization" in the US has become so piss poor that more kids are allowed to fester, so the line between the truly bad seeds and feral brats who could have been decent people is getting thinner and thinner. Its easier to just label them all as [true] psychopaths than it is to distinguish between brats and genuine lost causes.

At the same time I can see why it's just easier to lump them all together. From a diagnostic perspective there's still a lot to learn about sociopathy. Also, the havoc they wreak on society is pretty much the same, so people who only care about the behavioral outcomes than the genesis aren't really going to care about the distinction.

I agree. Toddlers are natural sociopath, a lot of them. And if you aren't taught, you don't outgrow it easily.

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Only 1 in 100? I would thought it would be higher.

I was thinking more like 1 in 10.

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coco_uk
Only 1 in 100? I would thought it would be higher.

I was thinking more like 1 in 10.

I was thinking one in two. Adults also. But, I'm Pessimistic like that.

And / Or I'm insane. Or some combo thereof ~

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pepper labeija
Personally, I believe that we all start out as mini-sociopaths (your average toadler, anyone?) and most of are socialized out of it. A small percent of people are unfazed by proper socialization and they remail sociopaths over the course of their lives. The problem is that modern "socialization" in the US has become so piss poor that more kids are allowed to fester, so the line between the truly bad seeds and feral brats who could have been decent people is getting thinner and thinner. Its easier to just label them all as [true] psychopaths than it is to distinguish between brats and genuine lost causes.

At the same time I can see why it's just easier to lump them all together. From a diagnostic perspective there's still a lot to learn about sociopathy. Also, the havoc they wreak on society is pretty much the same, so people who only care about the behavioral outcomes than the genesis aren't really going to care about the distinction.

I agree on the socialization process - and like you said, most breeders refuse to socialize their children because socializing them is in fact a lot of work. It is hard work, it is unpleasant work. But it's hard to do with this so-called helicopter and attachment methods of parunting.

It's the parents' own damn fault. If they weren't so concerned with their children achieving total personhood or whatever the fuck this attachment parenting thing is about, then they wouldn't have little psychopaths for children.

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pepper labeija
Personally, I believe that we all start out as mini-sociopaths (your average toadler, anyone?) and most of are socialized out of it.

That's pretty much what therapist John Rosemond says in his anti-sentimental books - and that may well be one reason his name will never be as famous or as socially acceptable in child-rearing circles as other "experts." (Right now, at least, he's only in about 225 newspapers.)

He once said that kids are such natural narcissists that in all likelihood, when an infant first opens its eyes and sees the world, its first thought is: "Wow! Look what I did!"

Other quotes of his:

“One does not have to teach antisocial behavior to toddlers,” (in a 2006 column) ”They are by nature violent, deceitful, destructive, rebellious, and prone to sociopathic rages if they do not get their way.”

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“In my estimation,” “toddlerhood is a pathological condition that demands ‘cure,’ accomplished through a combination of powerful love and powerful discipline.…The toddler mindset and the sociopathic mind-set are one and the same: ‘What I want, I deserve to have; the ends justify the means; and no one has a right to stand in my way.’ This is a reflection of human nature.”

Color me surprised. NOT!!! I also thought the number would be higher. This is what attachment parenting, extended BFing and gentle discipline have brought the world. Thank you so very much for this granola moos. Your little freaks will grow up to make a difference, pay into social security or even wipe my ass??? (Not that I'd let them.) I bet my German ass the exact opposite is going to be true.

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pepper labeija
Personally, I believe that we all start out as mini-sociopaths (your average toadler, anyone?) and most of are socialized out of it. A small percent of people are unfazed by proper socialization and they remail sociopaths over the course of their lives. The problem is that modern "socialization" in the US has become so piss poor that more kids are allowed to fester, so the line between the truly bad seeds and feral brats who could have been decent people is getting thinner and thinner. Its easier to just label them all as [true] psychopaths than it is to distinguish between brats and genuine lost causes.

At the same time I can see why it's just easier to lump them all together. From a diagnostic perspective there's still a lot to learn about sociopathy. Also, the havoc they wreak on society is pretty much the same, so people who only care about the behavioral outcomes than the genesis aren't really going to care about the distinction.

I agree on the socialization process - and like you said, most breeders refuse to socialize their children because socializing them is in fact a lot of work. It is hard work, it is unpleasant work. But it's hard to do with this so-called helicopter and attachment methods of parunting.

My parents did not socialize me. It took a while for them to get to a point where they would sometimes allow a classmate over to play. However, that still only happened a few times a year until I as a teenager. It was up to me to make friends and somehow find a way to spend time with them outside of school.

Even when my parents complained about it or had some sort of objection to any of my friends, I had to deal with it. A lot of lying took place for me to even have the small/humble social life I had as a kid. They preferred I just stay home with them. Social skills weren't seen of any importance at my house. My father is anti-social and my mother is pretty shy. If it were up to them we would've had no friends at all. they really did think it was a lot of work.

It was very important for me to try and make as many friends/connections with people as possible. It still is even if to a lesser degree. I watch what I say because I don't want someone to be offended. I keep my temper in check. I make it a point to say please and thank you. I make it a point to say hello and good bye to everyone. Over all though, I don't reveal too much about myself to anyone unless I have known them for a while.