13 year old girl is brain dead after tonsilectomy (Jahi McMath). Mom wants life support continued. December 24, 2013 | Registered: 19 years ago Posts: 9,197 |
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"There's no moral or legal or medical justification for providing ventilatory continuation in a corpse, other than organ transplant," Father Paris writes in an e-mail. "it's not life support; the child is dead. They're not keeping her alive; they are oxygenating her organs.
The family's position is understandable on an emotional level, he adds. They cannot bring themselves to admit their daughter has died,says Paris, who has consulted on the President's Commission for the Study of Ethics in Medicine and who frequently serves as an expert witness in cases involving termination of medical services. But if you allow a system to say, If the family screams loud enough, we will do what we believe is incorrect, we'll do what we believe is not medically appropriate, we'll do what we believe is wrong, we'll continue to do what doesn't work. If you continue to go this route it's a colossal social disaster.
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The court said, Remove the feeding tube and the family protested. Of course, the family has the radical, antiabortion, right-to-life Christian right, with its apparently unlimited resources and political muscle, behind them.
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Sealey said McMath didn't want to undergo the tonsil-removal procedure and told her mother, Nailah Winkfield, before she went under that “something bad is going to happen to me.â€
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peace-n-quiet
But, I believe that the girl did express apprehension about not waking up. She was 13--she was no small child. When I was 6, I had surgery and up to the day of surgery, worried that either I would not wake up or I would be paralyzed but awake and they would be carving on me!
Re: 13 year old girl is brain dead after tonsilectomy. Mom wants life support continued. December 24, 2013 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 883 |
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Cambion
The cardiac episode strikes me as odd when the surgery had nothing at all to do with her heart. I don't know how common it is for someone to go into cardiac arrest within days of non-cardiac surgery.
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Cambion
Also, I've never heard of a child developing sleep apnea.
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Re: 13 year old girl is brain dead after tonsilectomy. Mom wants life support continued. December 28, 2013 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 128 |
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cfchevygirl
Someone else mentioned Terry Schiavo. Didn't she languish in care for something like 20 years? I know her famblee had lawsuit money to keep that going, but, 20 years and they still weren't going to give up until the courts intervened. These folks could do the same thing.
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Re: 13 year old girl is brain dead after tonsilectomy. Mom wants life support continued. December 28, 2013 |
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cfchevygirl
Who is going to pay for all this?
I'm sure that the famblee will sue the hospital at some point, but they surely don't have the money to do this stuff now, do they? Long-term care is not going to take this girl for free.
I was reading that they even looked at a facility as far away as New York. And how was that going to happen? Not only would they have to pay the bills, but they would've had to relocate at least temporarily, based on how long they let this go on.
Someone else mentioned Terry Schiavo. Didn't she languish in care for something like 20 years? I know her famblee had lawsuit money to keep that going, but, 20 years and they still weren't going to give up until the courts intervened. These folks could do the same thing.
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cfdavep
I guess they found a nursing home that will take the brain dead girl, which means that there is a bed that could've been taken by someone who is qualified, all because people cater to this family who is in fantasyland that their kid will wake up and be normal
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Doesn't the brain- if it isn't receiving any blood flow- just pretty much starts to liquify and come out of the person's nose and ears? That's not going to be pleasant for them to see...Quote
drlove0378
Complicated answer: What this famblee doesn't understand is that brain stem death isn't the same as a persistent vegetative/minimally conscious state -- as I mentioned before, even Terri Schiavo had a functioning brain stem. In the absence of the brain stem, autonomic functions (including the digestive system) will not work. A person in a PVS can "live" for years and years on a feeding tube (provided the brain stem still works), but if they dump nutrition into Jahi's gut via a feeding tube, all that swill is just going to sit there until her stomach ruptures, because the necessary nerve impulses from the brain just aren't there to move stuff through the digestive tract.
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