Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 17, 2014 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 1,434 |
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barren4ever
As for those who want grandbrats to spoil, why not spoil your adult children a little. "You cant always get what you want" is something they told us over and over. Yet they were disappointed to birf kids that were not athletic, blue-eyed blond cherubs. No grandsprogs. Too bad, so sad. sources. And I'll be damned if I were to wreck my body and life to placate and please my indifferent parents.
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Dorisan
I kept my mouth shut but was privately aghast. Here my sister was almost done raising her son, she and her husband would be free to pursue their own life, but she's knocked up. Years later, I found out from my younger sister that Older Sister suffered some pretty intense pressure. Her husband started to berate her about the responsibility he took on in raising "the bastard" she bore as a single mother, but wouldn't give him his "own" child.
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Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 18, 2014 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 6,607 |
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I kept my mouth shut but was privately aghast. Here my sister was almost done raising her son, she and her husband would be free to pursue their own life, but she's knocked up. Years later, I found out from my younger sister that Older Sister suffered some pretty intense pressure. Her husband started to berate her about the responsibility he took on in raising "the bastard" she bore as a single mother, but wouldn't give him his "own" child.
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She should have given him his own divorce. Guy sounds like an emotional abuser.
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Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 18, 2014 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 386 |
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Ms. Hill also raises what might be called the ugly-duckling issue. Older adults who are waiting—and waiting—for grandchildren frequently find themselves on the social sidelines, watching veteran grandparents happily head off to soccer games and school events. "All of my friends and sisters have grandchildren," she says. "I kind of feel, not like an outcast, but that I can't relate to them when we get together." Having grandchildren, she adds, would "make me feel like I am growing" as a person.
Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 18, 2014 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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alana
In any case, this is a timely article for me for a number of reasons. My relationship with my parents had gotten a bit cold recently. I've been very outright about not wanting kids for a couple of years now, so my parents have placed their hopes for grandkids on my brother. Well, he got a vasectomy recently. I'm thrilled for him, but my parents are absolutely aghast. They're going through some sort of bullshit existential crisis right now, because my cousins have been shitting out kids left and right, and all my parents' friends are becoming grandparents, but they know they won't have any biological grandchildren. And whereas they've spent years telling us that they want us to follow our dreams and be happy, now they're saying that we (or I, since I'm sadly still capable of having kids) should do what they want and have kids to make them happy. It's all bullshit.
Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 19, 2014 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 6,607 |
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my cousins have been shitting out kids left and right
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Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 27, 2014 |
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http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303775504579395501172676002
The whiners in the article are bad enough. They think they are owed grandloaves. The article and the comments neglect to point out reasons besides financial ones that grandloaves are delayed or never arrive. The comments in particular make me sick though. There's one racist fuck in particular, Bill Weronko, that makes me rage. A quick perusal of his facebook also shows that he's a climate change denier. And of course there's a healthy dose of MRA crap in there. I just can't believe these stupid fucking people. Ugh!
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The Long (Long) Wait to Be a Grandparent
Ms. Hill also raises what might be called the ugly-duckling issue. Older adults who are waiting—and waiting—for grandchildren frequently find themselves on the social sidelines, watching veteran grandparents happily head off to soccer games and school events. "All of my friends and sisters have grandchildren," she says. "I kind of feel, not like an outcast, but that I can't relate to them when we get together." Having grandchildren, she adds, would "make me feel like I am growing" as a person.
Some of the toughest times are holidays, says Atlanta resident Martha Tate, 68, an author and gardening blogger whose first grandchild is due to arrive later this year. "You get Christmas cards with all the grandchildren lined up—and you're still sending a card with your two grown girls and a dog," she says. Ms. Tate adds that she has been hesitant to talk with her daughters, ages 37 and 30, about grandchildren, worrying that she might appear selfish. But thoughts about when the day might come occupied her mind "more than I would ever let on," she says.
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Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 28, 2014 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 538 |
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I caught my parents talking to our extended family on the phone, and my brother also listened in on what they were saying, and basically my father was whining on the phone about how I am 25 years old and should already be a moo of at least 2 sprogs. It is not the first time I have heard this crap, my mother is basically complaining about the same to her extended family. I just don't understand that at all. 25 and two sprogs? Why? Even my mother waited until she was 28 when she got me, so going by that alone I would have at least 3 more years before my death sentence. Not that is matters because I will never sprog as long as I live, but heck. I didn't do all the work at university to then just stop and shit a loaf. I want to be a scientist in biology, not a moo. But of course, all I and my brother ever hear are the "you are going to be so lonely when you are older"-bingo. Bullshit, the only ones being lonely are our parents. I want to know, has any one of you parents that have NO FRIEND at all? Because my mother says that having friends is the same as allowing people to leech off of you, which is why she has not a single friend in her life. My dad also is all alone and friendless. Now, who is really going to be alone when they are older? I guess it will be them. What also annoys me is that they try to pressure my CF-brother into loafing as well with the constant question "Why don't you have a girlfriend yet? Get one, quick!".I know I have a strong will to not let myself succumb to this pressure, and I hope my brother is the same. In any case, I will be there for him and remind him of his true path whenever needed.
I am thankful for this place and you guys. It feels so good to vent this here.
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Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 28, 2014 |
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I caught my parents talking to our extended family on the phone, and my brother also listened in on what they were saying, and basically my father was whining on the phone about how I am 25 years old and should already be a moo of at least 2 sprogs. It is not the first time I have heard this crap, my mother is basically complaining about the same to her extended family. I just don't understand that at all. 25 and two sprogs? Why? Even my mother waited until she was 28 when she got me, so going by that alone I would have at least 3 more years before my death sentence. Not that is matters because I will never sprog as long as I live, but heck. I didn't do all the work at university to then just stop and shit a loaf. I want to be a scientist in biology, not a moo. But of course, all I and my brother ever hear are the "you are going to be so lonely when you are older"-bingo. Bullshit, the only ones being lonely are our parents. I want to know, has any one of you parents that have NO FRIEND at all? Because my mother says that having friends is the same as allowing people to leech off of you, which is why she has not a single friend in her life. My dad also is all alone and friendless. Now, who is really going to be alone when they are older? I guess it will be them. What also annoys me is that they try to pressure my CF-brother into loafing as well with the constant question "Why don't you have a girlfriend yet? Get one, quick!".I know I have a strong will to not let myself succumb to this pressure, and I hope my brother is the same. In any case, I will be there for him and remind him of his true path whenever needed.
I am thankful for this place and you guys. It feels so good to vent this here.
Wow. Your parents sound like they’re absolutely miserable, as wannabe grandbreeders tend to be. Oh well, they put themselves in that situation. They chose to alienate their friends to the point where they have none and totally made their kids the centre of the world. But now that those kids are grown and want to live their own lives, they have nothing left, so that’s why they need grandsprogs so badly.
Hopefully you and your brother get as far away from them as fast as you can. Find some family members that are more supportive, unless your relatives are all breeder-brained tards. Unfortunately, the majority of mine are except for my stepsister, who thankfully shares my desire not to shit loaves.
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Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 28, 2014 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 1,434 |
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StudioFiftyFour
This other shit, from grandchilddren to old-age entitlements... No one is owed any of this stuff, because those expected to pay, NEVER EVER agreed to do so. Ever. For the old folks out there who are clamouring for this stuff, consider anything you get to be a bonus, and stop whining.
If those who have grandbaby-rabies put as much energy into helping themselves or their fellow citizens as they did into whining, the world would be a much better place.
Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 28, 2014 | Registered: 19 years ago Posts: 9,180 |
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The younger breeders are irritating but there is nothing more pathetic than an old-ass breeder that has still not gotten it through his rapidly thinning head that you don't always get what you want in life.
Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 28, 2014 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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I agree 2000%!
The younger breeders are irritating but there is nothing more pathetic than an old-ass breeder that has still not gotten it through his rapidly thinning head that you don't always get what you want in life.
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I don't care about them expecting Medicare and social security. They paid into it so they should e able to collect that. But grandbrats? Hell no.
Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 29, 2014 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 1,788 |
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evilchildlessbitch
If the government wants to cut a check, with accrued interest, for all the money Boomers paid in, then expecting money, then that would be an entitlement. I fail to see why my parents, who have bh worked, retired, continue to work and paid into social security, had the kids they could afford and saved for retirement should be penalized so that a bunch of over-indulged, 25-35 year old and younger can get paid to breed. You are right about entitlement with grandkids, but if I paid for a house for 30 years then it is not entitlement to expect to own it. Same thing with social security and disability. The very first thing that should be cut is the breeder bonus tax deduction. These whiny wannagrandbreeds suck, but the real entitlements are firmly latched to breeding. Most everybody will get old, nobody on this board will breed.
Re: Wannabe grandparents whinge on wsj.com April 29, 2014 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 2,217 |
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StudioFiftyFour
Do not be fooled--they want the grandbrat for FakeBook fodder and water cooler discussion. That's it. They can go pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
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