Moos and anime

Last night, my family and I were gathered in our living room conversing while my mom was looking for Christmas presents for us. The oldest of my younger sisters was looking at Converse shoes, and I guess one pair's design was "too dark, like that anime crap". Then she said, "I hate that anime juuuuunnnk." in a very Mama-June-ish drawl. My mom is under the impression that all anime is dark and scary "autistic weirdness", even though the only anone she's seen snippets of Pokemon and Yu-GI-Oh! She likes things like the Muppets, Classic black-and-white movies, films like Rocky and Sleepless in Seattle, and 80s music. Her mother neglected and ignored her when she was young, so she learned to take comfort in movies and music. She is a definite PNB, and she's a great woman, but this just bugs me. I like the Muppets , oldies music going back to the 20s, classic movies, Pixar and other animated movies, and classic cars, but I've grown up with so much "family-friendly" entertainment that it got a little dull. I first got into anime with Wolf's Rain, then moved to things like The Secret Life of Arriety, Death Note, Soul Eater, Gundam, and My Little Monster. I have a Netflix account, so I can watch these shows on my own laptop, but it just bugs me to see people get turned off such an interesting genre because of obnoxious kiddy fare like pokemon. And to hear my own mother drawl like that fat, stupid, slug from "Honey Boo-Boo" was the icing on the cake. What problems do you guys have when it comes to movies and music? Another benefit of being child-free, you don't have to worry about being "fambly friendly".

I get that, like in my family, my brother an I used to watch some mainstream animes on cheesetv or in the afternoons on foxtel, my dad was actually into some of them because he grew up with astro boy, and speed racer, which is a shame because we didn't actually get along with him and no longer talk to him. but mum on the other hand, she remembers all the shows we watched, but though they were for kids, so she expected us to one day grow out of them *grow up*, my brother didn't stay to into it after he moved away from the place he and I rented, I used to get him into stuff by watching it beside him on my computer.

at this point mum didn't know we still watched anime, and treated us pretty well as maturing adults, then she assumed all anime is about magic, or silly battles and make belive, and started really talking down about me being into it, actually asking me at one point, how will I ever have a boyfriend if all I watch is kiddy shows?

I said i'll just find a guy whos also into anime, and the non mainstream animes arnt all kiddy, theirs aimed at people from kindergarden through to adult, I don't think it ever really sunk in.

my partner happens to be really into games, anime, and gadgets in general, just like me, though I watch my shows in Japanese, were as he prefers English. we plan to stay CF but eitherway, without kids, we can watch anything we fancy for the rest of our lives without worrying about what were watching

last Christmas my partner gave me the full size metal Fairy Tail celestial key set, and wrapped each one indervidually, I sat there tearing into the wrapping of each one with sheer excitement plastered across my face with each new key, it drew the attention of all of my family and relitives to ask what I had there?

when I turned and said that N had got me the full set of Fairy Tail keys which is an anime I was into, they looked at me all puzzled, they asked me "you still watch anime?" and said things like I would have thought those were old keys to a house, didn't know why you were getting so excited, N pointed out later that they had probly seen me say oh thank you every year to there gifts and never actually given me something i wanted related to my interests, so were just stunned by seeing me *actually happy* with a gift.

likewise, my female friends have never been into games, and don't think much of anime either, so I could never bond with them over it, but last year I got to say to one of them for instance, my little pony, it seems to be very popular, not sure if it counts as an anime, but I used it to point out to her that its target audience is 6 year old girls, yet its main fan base is male 30yr olds, it blew her away, and made her realise that my interests wernt so strange.

where as my guy friends would play games, and always wanted to borrow animes, not the kind I could sit and watch with them but still had, my mums first question when I said I was hanging out with one of my many guy friends back before N and I were going out, was, which one are you fucking?, how many of them have you had sex with? because apparently as a girl, I cant just have guy friends and play games like the way two guy friends would, I have to be screwing one or all of them, or I had to be a lesbian as my reason for not having a boyfriend, where as my female friend couldn't figure it out either.

it frustraites the hell out of me, specially since once I was with N, my mum and friend changed there tune to at least he's into the same things your into, and you can go play dress up, and go to *what they call* comicon, and probly watch your animes together, get married and put it all away when you have kids....
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oh were child free, and N likes a slightly different list of anime than I do, so not to many overlap. the look of I don't understand on there faces was face-plam-able

The very first anime I ever watched was "Robot Carnival" followed by "Twilight of the Cockroaches"

I've been hooked ever since.

At one of the hospitals I worked at, I let a moo borrow "Howl's Moving Castle". From that day on she did nothing but tell me how immature I was and therfore I couldn't understand "adult" conversations. She made sure to talk down to me and to try to make me leave because they were having "adult" conversations. Stupid cow missed the point of the anime entirely and I definitley wouldn't classify it as a "kids movie". She was the type who thought the "Notebook" was the greatest movie of all times.

Surprisingly, I don't get much shit in regard to my entertainment choices. Just about all my friends are into cartoons/anime and video games, and some are into toys. I'm sure breeders would look down their noses at me because obviously someone who watches cartoons and collects toys who's older than 10 is immature. eyes2 I guess it helps them to sleep at night when they assume they are more mature than unchilded adult nerds. After all, breeders only watch cartoons and know about toys because they "have to." Since I choose to know, they probably feel this puts me on par with their kids intelligence-wise. Sometimes, it's not even breeders who give you shit about it; rather, it's just morons who want to feel better about themselves.

My mother isn't very familiar with anime. She refers to it as "that Chinese stuff" and generally can't tell the difference between shows. Like when she got me a Nintendo DS for X-mess one year and the games she picked out were Kingdom Hearts and Beyblade because they were anime or looked like it. KH was a good choice, but not fuckin' Beyblade. Also, until I repeatedly told her to stop, she would buy me ANYTHING Yu-Gi-Oh-related she found at the thrift store because she figured I liked all anime-looking things and she immediately recognized Yugi as anime/"Chinese stuff." I'm not a raging anime fan, but there are a couple shows and manga I like (and no, Yu-Gi-Oh is not on that list). I think, for a while, Mom figured there was something wrong with me because I still watch cartoons, read comics and play video games... but then she realized I hang out with several other adults who do the exact same thing and she quit worrying. Her idiot has occasionally told me to "grow up" and "get a life" because I still play games and watch cartoons, but I don't pay him any mind because he's a douchebag.

Also, I wonder what breeders think about the people who bust their asses to create cartoons, video games and other "children's entertainment." Are they also immature? After all, when you make a game or a cartoon show, you have to be immersed in it.

The only bad thing is when you share an interest with a kid and then they want to latch onto you because you know more about Pokemon and Spider-man than Mommy does.

my brother is a PNB but he thought that Pan's Labyrinth could have been a kids movie. all the bad language was subtitled, duh.

I fucking hate that ignorant, animated=famblee friendlee mentality. Apparently these idiots have never seen Ralph Bakshi films. I think it would so much good to educate them, since they are too stupid & diaper whipped to understand animated films for adults, such as Bakshi or Miyazaki films. I want to make some 2D animated films for adults, & I'm not watering down any aspect of them. I will stress that they will be/are R rated, although that doesn't stop breeders from allowing their brats to see them or be in the immediate area as one is showing. It will be great to advocate for art, by telling breeders off, after they bellow about how its not famblee friendlee.

I find it interesting that a lot of the great artists and inventors weren't exactly "famblee men". Maybe in the old days, when shoddy parenting was more frowned upon, the family unit did some good by creating intelligent adults who could make their own way in the world. Today, all I see is breeders who want to sanitize the world for their spawn. Even back in the old days, it seems that the best thing a person could do was "settle down" and "start a famblee". Maybe humans are just herd animals, and every now and then you get a beautiful freak who breaks free and does something truly amazing.

The common breeder belief is that animation = for children, and it need not be said how untrue that is. There are PLENTY of older and newer cartoons and animated films aimed at adults, or might at least be disturbing to little kids: South Park, Archer, Drawn Together, as retro lizard mentioned: anything by Ralph Bakshi, some stuff by Don Bluth, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, quite a bit of anime, any hentai/yaoi/yuri/shota/etc., Metalocalypse, Robot Chicken, and anything on Adult Swim or Comedy Central. Those are just the ones I know off the top of my head. Then, when breeders see something in a kiddy-friendly show that they feel is "inappropriate" because they can't go three seconds without bitching about something, they complain about their kids being scarred for life and ruin shit for those who have more than two brain cells.

I definitely agree that breeders just want to sanitize everything into a happy G-rating for their munchkins and expect everyone else to adhere to it. When their brats flip through the channels and find porn, the Moos will bitch at the network and the cable provider rather than blame herself for not using parental controls on the fucking TV. I heard that Nickelodeon's publishing house has re-released the Ninja Turtles comics in graphic novel form and I was considering buying, but from what I understand, the original comics were quite dark and violent. After seeing the new CGI Turtles on Nick in their derpy glory, I can only imagine they've sanitized the rerun comics too. Fuck, I wanted to vomit when I saw how retarded they look now. I don't know if the plot makes up for it or not, as I haven't given it much of a chance. Legend of Korra was on Nick for a while too, but I think the series started to get really dark and now it's only available to view online. But that's Nickelodeon for you. Breeders whine and some networks cater to it. Tons of daytime anime is cleaned up before airing here - even Sailor Moon, because bawww we can't show teh gheys to the chilluns cuz they might think it's okay to be with a same-gendered partner!

I'm not sure about the rating, but there was a Kickstarter campaign a few months ago for a bunch of former Disney animators combining forces to create a cel-animated creepy steampunk film. I think it's definitely aimed at an older crowd, but probably isn't R-rated. They went well over their goal, so I wonder how it's progressing.

Not big into anime/manga, but what I do watch/read tends to be pretty dark and firmly not for children: Perfect Blue, Grave of the Fireflies, Monster, Death Note, Ooku, Ikigami, Helter Skelter, Kite. The only two exceptions were Hot Gimmick (which had sexual blackmail and an attempted gang rape conceived out of revenge) and Nana (which actually got pretty depressing as the story progressed). I think Kimi Wa Petto is the one manga I read that was all fluff and sweetness and light (still not for kids, though).

Then there's the graphic novels/movies I enjoyed: Maus (Holocaust in Poland), Persepolis (post-revolution Iran), Deogratias (Rwandan Genocide), Pyongyang: A Journey in North Korea (self-explanatory), Safe Area Goražade (Yugoslav Wars: Bosnia), amongst others.


By the way, the above, plus all the depressing documentaries, non-fiction, and murder mysteries I read/watch, is why I read a lot of romance novels. I need something to counterbalance all the depressing shit.

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The South Park three episode saga Tities and Dragons was very raunchy and mature that I felt like it shouldn't have been on TV, but streaming only.

I've been watching anime to escape and unwind from work. The only anime that I've been watching is Bleach. It's even more mature than Inuyasha at times especially Rangiku Matsumoto and her giant boobs and Kon. The severe blood lost in Bleach is on par with slasher flims, but without all the dying. Bleach could be edited for kiddies, but what fun in that?

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The common breeder belief is that animation = for children, and it need not be said how untrue that is. There are PLENTY of older and newer cartoons and animated films aimed at adults, or might at least be disturbing to little kids: South Park, Archer, Drawn Together, as retro lizard mentioned: anything by Ralph Bakshi, some stuff by Don Bluth, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, quite a bit of anime, any hentai/yaoi/yuri/shota/etc., Metalocalypse, Robot Chicken, and anything on Adult Swim or Comedy Central. Those are just the ones I know off the top of my head. Then, when breeders see something in a kiddy-friendly show that they feel is "inappropriate" because they can't go three seconds without bitching about something, they complain about their kids being scarred for life and ruin shit for those who have more than two brain cells.

I definitely agree that breeders just want to sanitize everything into a happy G-rating for their munchkins and expect everyone else to adhere to it. When their brats flip through the channels and find porn, the Moos will bitch at the network and the cable provider rather than blame herself for not using parental controls on the fucking TV. I heard that Nickelodeon's publishing house has re-released the Ninja Turtles comics in graphic novel form and I was considering buying, but from what I understand, the original comics were quite dark and violent. After seeing the new CGI Turtles on Nick in their derpy glory, I can only imagine they've sanitized the rerun comics too. Fuck, I wanted to vomit when I saw how retarded they look now. I don't know if the plot makes up for it or not, as I haven't given it much of a chance. Legend of Korra was on Nick for a while too, but I think the series started to get really dark and now it's only available to view online. But that's Nickelodeon for you. Breeders whine and some networks cater to it. Tons of daytime anime is cleaned up before airing here - even Sailor Moon, because bawww we can't show teh gheys to the chilluns cuz they might think it's okay to be with a same-gendered partner!

I'm not sure about the rating, but there was a Kickstarter campaign a few months ago for a bunch of former Disney animators combining forces to create a cel-animated creepy steampunk film. I think it's definitely aimed at an older crowd, but probably isn't R-rated. They went well over their goal, so I wonder how it's progressing.

The original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mirage comic was very dark, gritty, & violent. I have read the first 2 issues. I wish someone would make a television series based strictly on the comic, & perhaps air it on Adult Swim. The 2003 series, that adopts some aspects of the comic, still feels watered down & trying too hard to be hip, from the tidbits I have seen. Anyway, I want to look into the Kickstarter with the former Disney animators. That sounds great, just awesome as hell. I think fucking around with the story lines & editing cartoons & films, so it can be sanitized for the chyldrun, is blasphemous. Its completely disrespectful to the art & the artist. The only exception I would make is if its a different take on an established story, that's an entirely different version, or necessary, well done edits that were an original idea, that couldn't be done in the past, that actually contribute to the story & visuals. I would have given more examples of animated films & cartoons geared toward adults, but I wanted to avoid a wall of text. That just shows how common they really are, ignorant breeders.

Hmm, So because it's a cartoon

SNOOKIE WANTS SMUSH SMUSH is ok for kids. :Mr.T

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I think fucking around with the story lines & editing cartoons & films, so it can be sanitized for the chyldrun, is blasphemous. Its completely disrespectful to the art & the artist. The only exception I would make is if its a different take on an established story, that's an entirely different version, or necessary, well done edits that were an original idea, that couldn't be done in the past, that actually contribute to the story & visuals.

Same here. This practice is called Bowdlerizing, which is just the process of taking an existing form of entertainment and tweaking it to be suitable for an audience for whom it would be too mature for otherwise. In some cases, tweaking might be minimal and it won't take too much away from the show or movie or whatever. Thing is, networks LOVE to put mature shit on daytime TV and cut out all the good shit to appeal to a wider audience. Sometimes whole episodes and scenes are removed, but rather than not air it, they're glad to hack up the show or movie, repeat scenes and add in very obvious, very bad dubs to fill a time slot, and fuck the people who worked hard to make it a reality.

It's rare anyone is willing to put forth the work to recreate a story so it's more suitable for a younger audience, and when it does happen, sometimes it pisses the adult fans off because it's so shitty (Teen Titans Go). It's easier and cheaper to just fuck with an existing version and ruin it so someone's autard will be occupied for 30 minutes.

I'd also love to see a TMNT show that is strictly based on the comics without the cutesy-ness, and with Adult Swim or even FX, I think it would have a safe haven for the adult viewers. The closest I've seen to something like this is the 2003 film Turtles Forever, where the comic Turtles, the 1987 Turtles and the 2003 Turtles all meet and must combine forces to stop the Shredders from their respective universes who have also all teamed up. I love that this movie makes fun of how stupid the '87 Turtles were too.

Yeah, there are other examples of shoddily done bowlderizing & retconning that I could get into, but I would be here for hours.

About the only things I can think of, aside from smaller tidbits, like the different colored bandannas, that would carry over well into a television adaptation of the comic, would be more emphasis on most of the personality traits, which can be traced back to the comic, so its not totally made up, & some of the other characters that cannot be traced back to the comic, but are made serious. I hated Turtles Forever, not only because I'm not too wild about the more serious, but still watered down, & trying too hard to be hip 2003 series & its animation style, but also because it railed on the 1987 series far too much. In that series, they may have been, goofy & strictly for kydz, but when threatened, they didn't stand around laughing at their own jokes. The parody just felt too embellished. I don't want to ramble too much, so I'll stop there.
I want to be one of the artists out there that contributes to ending sanitizing & disrespecting of mature art.

People don't realize that anime is just like any other method of storytelling. Some of it is amazing, some of it is "meh", and some of it is flat out awful. My first one was Hellsing Ultimate, which led to me reading the manga. It will probably always be one of my favorites. Now that I have Netflix, I've gotten into Death Note and Black Butler. I watched Vampire Knight as well but the ending was very disappointing. I also fell in love with Ouran High School Host Club, which is kind of silly initially, but ended up being a favorite as well.

As for Howl's moving castle, I've found people either love it or think it's the weirdest thing ever. And The Notebook was one of the most atrocious films I've ever made myself sit through. Both characters were assholes and deserved every bad thing that happened to them.

Yeah I really hate how much they butcher anime just to make it kid friendly, they want to show anime to kids, pick a child aged anime to play, want an anime basied on older themes, either stop molly colddling brats and show them something where they might actaully learn how to talk properly and think objectively, or put it on at appropriate times.

And yeah I hated it when they canceled shows because a same gender couple came on, or they made a girly looking guy be voiced by a girl to not confuse the little darlings

So, according to moo logic, something like, say, Evangelion (especially End of Evangelion) is a perfect family show/film for the kiddies to sit through. "Oh, lookie there, schnookums, look at the big purple robot, look at the nice girl's arm rot off, oh look at the boy's head getting popped off, isn't that cute?"

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The very first anime I ever watched was "Robot Carnival" followed by "Twilight of the Cockroaches"

I love Robot Carnival...it's one of my all-time favorites!

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If animated=perfect for teh chyldwens, then breeders should go right ahead and show their vagina gollums the following: Perfect Blue, Wicked City, both Kite movies, Mad Bull 34, etc. :kill

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If animated=perfect for teh chyldwens, then breeders should go right ahead and show their vagina gollums the following: Perfect Blue, Wicked City, both Kite movies, Mad Bull 34, etc. :kill

Don't forget Bible Black, it has the word Bible in the title it must be religious.

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If animated=perfect for teh chyldwens, then breeders should go right ahead and show their vagina gollums the following: Perfect Blue, Wicked City, both Kite movies, Mad Bull 34, etc. :kill

Don't forget Bible Black, it has the word Bible in the title it must be religious.

larious larious larious

There's also a hentai titled Mother Knows Breast...some dumb fuck moo would probably think it's a beautiful beefing video appropriate for her little sprogs

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I agree. If they are going to allow their shit stains watch anime, they should stick to the brat friendly stuff. I realize I'm beating a dead horse here, but those fucking ratings are there for a reason, breeders. They are there to prevent your stupid ass from bitching with your self righteousness & causing a good adult oriented film or cartoon to either be ostracized & misjudged or disrespectfully edited. This makes me was to go watch Heavy Traffic or Spirited Away, right now.