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Using a pignasty to avoid jail

Posted by cfdavep 
Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
http://news.yahoo.com/store-owner-gets-5-years-prison-vegas-puppy-194116620.html
A soon to be moo in Vegas torched a petshop. I assume for the insurance $$$. The critters in there survived as fire fighters got there in time and moo is trying to use her pig-nasty as a "get out of jail free card" The article actually admitted this.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
Fucking bitch pig! angry flipping off
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
Cunt. Hope she goes to jail AND miscarries. Violently.

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Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
I hope both she and her boyfriend who did this are taken out to a field every night in their dreams, tied down, and set on fire. angry smiley
There are few ways to die so horrible as this and I pray she has to face it one day. Grateful though that the animals came out physically ok.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
Actually, being pregnant won't stop a jail sentence if it applies, the child will be born in jail then given to the nearest next of kin to raise till the moo is released. Although many jury's won't want that scenario of separating a loaf from its cow so young, and will likely just give a lighter longer sentence.

Which is stupid, here in Australia animal abuse and cruilty is heavily fined and punished PER ANIMAL involved, this bitch would be looking at massive fines and jail time for willfully endangering the lives of so many critters, even if none died, the stress of such an event, as being trapped or caged during a fire, will have long term effects on their behavior and phycology.

She might not have burnt the animals but she might as well have once a grown cat or dog sees a flame next, not to mention smoke inhalation damage to their lungs.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
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exile
Actually, being pregnant won't stop a jail sentence if it applies, the child will be born in jail then given to the nearest next of kin to raise till the moo is released. Although many jury's won't want that scenario of separating a loaf from its cow so young, and will likely just give a lighter longer sentence.

This is technically true in the US as well - several states require pregnant prisoners to give birth in shackles. While they definitely do jail piggos here, in practice I would imagine judges handing them down lighter sentences invoking "judicial discretion" and taking into account "all facts and circumstances" - which obviously include the pignancy. Many states in the US elect their judges, thus and no one would want to be vilified as the judge who jailed a pregnant women in the eyes if the voter. Similarly, juries are easily swayed by the pregnant card as they are any other sob stories.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
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exile
Actually, being pregnant won't stop a jail sentence if it applies, the child will be born in jail then given to the nearest next of kin to raise till the moo is released. Although many jury's won't want that scenario of separating a loaf from its cow so young, and will likely just give a lighter longer sentence.

This is technically true in the US as well - several states require pregnant prisoners to give birth in shackles. While they definitely do jail piggos here, in practice I would imagine judges handing them down lighter sentences invoking "judicial discretion" and taking into account "all facts and circumstances" - which obviously include the pignancy. Many states in the US elect their judges, thus and no one would want to be vilified as the judge who jailed a pregnant women in the eyes if the voter. Similarly, juries are easily swayed by the pregnant card as they are any other sob stories.

Yeah, I was gonna say, being in jail pregnant sucks way harder than it would for a non pregnant inmate. Piggos in jail usually, as stated before, give birth in shackles. This is incredibly hard on a person and some individuals have almost died due to it. If she goes to jail she better bring some lube for the birth because it's gonna be baaaaaaaad.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 25, 2015
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Actually, being pregnant won't stop a jail sentence if it applies, the child will be born in jail then given to the nearest next of kin to raise till the moo is released. Although many jury's won't want that scenario of separating a loaf from its cow so young, and will likely just give a lighter longer sentence.

This is technically true in the US as well - several states require pregnant prisoners to give birth in shackles. While they definitely do jail piggos here, in practice I would imagine judges handing them down lighter sentences invoking "judicial discretion" and taking into account "all facts and circumstances" - which obviously include the pignancy. Many states in the US elect their judges, thus and no one would want to be vilified as the judge who jailed a pregnant women in the eyes if the voter. Similarly, juries are easily swayed by the pregnant card as they are any other sob stories.


Yeah, I was gonna say, being in jail pregnant sucks way harder than it would for a non pregnant inmate. Piggos in jail usually, as stated before, give birth in shackles. This is incredibly hard on a person and some individuals have almost died due to it. If she goes to jail she better bring some lube for the birth because it's gonna be baaaaaaaad.

I have heard vaguely of shackled pregnancy's, didn't know it was still a thing though, also interesting to learn you guys vote in your judges, it makes a lot more sense when you look at it from the "no one would want to be vilified as the judge who jailed a pregnant women in the eyes if the voter." perspective, im not sure what we do over here exactly, far as Im aware, we have a range of judges specialising in different areas, and cases are kinda just queued up on each relevant one for the relevant area. but our jury duty is a mandatory thing that we can only escape if we are bias, or signed off from a doctor or employer as unable to attend.

actually apparently being piggo didn't matter after all for the very reasons we thought

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Clark County District Court Judge David Barker said he thought Gloria Eun Hye Lee, 36, was using her pregnancy to try to get him to hand down a lesser sentence.

here's a fact against her, the fire was a year ago, but shes only 3months pregnant.... she wasn't pregnant when she committed the crime, and therefor it should not have been used as evidence to be weighed against her crimes.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 27, 2015
Here's an truly awful idea, let her loaf in a sparsely filled jail cell, in full view of other prisoners, while shackled. Of course thus won't happen, as her human rights are more important... But it might just let her experience the feelings of certain death whist stuck in a cage - which is nothing less that what she subjected those poor animals to, and maybe understand what it's like to be degraded by being on show for anyone to Lear at your privates.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 27, 2015
I was a state correctional officer for several years. It might be good to clarify a point brought up here.

Women inmates who are in labor, about to give birth, are transported to a regular hospital just as any other inmate at medical risk would be. The rules require that all inmates be restrained while outside a secured facility on a medical run to lessen the odds of escape attempts, and that includes pregnant women. A doctor can request that all restraints be removed temporarily if a medical issue or required medical test (such as an MRI) warrants it, but otherwise they remain in place—for a male inmate with a bunch of IVs, then at least leg irons must be used, for example. However, an inmate cannot be shackled to a bed or other object, only to him/herself, at least in my state.

By the way, in my state inmates on medical runs are always handcuffed in front, not in rear as cops making an arrest would. But leg irons and other chains are part of the complete setup and are all generally mandatory.

So when you hear that pregnant women are shackled while in labor, this is not true inside the prison itself, and outside the prison all inmates are supposed to be in restraints while at a hospital or other unsecured medical facility. Preggos are not singled out to be shackled as "punishment" for being in labor: that's my point. Some lurkers and others reading this thread might be badly misled.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 27, 2015
The prosecutor pointed out about how convenient it was that she got piggo in the few weeks between the end of her trial and the sentencing. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the judge agreed and gave her, I think, up to five years. Still not enough, though thankfully, all the puppies were adopted.
Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 28, 2015
Even mainstream society is getting tired of breeder bitches and their excuses for not taking responsibility for their actions.

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Re: Using a pignasty to avoid jail
February 28, 2015
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I was a state correctional officer for several years. It might be good to clarify a point brought up here.

Women inmates who are in labor, about to give birth, are transported to a regular hospital just as any other inmate at medical risk would be. The rules require that all inmates be restrained while outside a secured facility on a medical run to lessen the odds of escape attempts, and that includes pregnant women. A doctor can request that all restraints be removed temporarily if a medical issue or required medical test (such as an MRI) warrants it, but otherwise they remain in place—for a male inmate with a bunch of IVs, then at least leg irons must be used, for example. However, an inmate cannot be shackled to a bed or other object, only to him/herself, at least in my state.

By the way, in my state inmates on medical runs are always handcuffed in front, not in rear as cops making an arrest would. But leg irons and other chains are part of the complete setup and are all generally mandatory.

I actually know of this, my dad was in the police for many years, so i'd often hear storys of injured criminals needing to be transported to and from hospital for treatment, and later I worked with a lady who worked in a correctional facility previously, and heard some storys from her.

I was just surprised its still a thing, I would think by now they might have their own medical facilitys on site or somthing
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