single duhds butthurt that cf women don't want them

Why are single parents constantly thinking with their crotches? All you ever hear about is their relentless pursuit to get laid.

I was a kid with divorced parents. I hated dealing with my parents' sex lives. Why do they insist on putting their kids through their bullshit, "friends" and sleepovers? Put the dick DOWN for 10 minutes and go be a parent.

I think single Duhs get their balls all in a twist when rejected by women in general for a couple reasons, the first one being that rejection is a shot to their masculinity. They have a penis and proof that it works, so for anyone with tits to realize that and still say "no" is insulting to the Duh and his virile junk. Secondly, he's already got a ready-made family that may or may not be complete (translation: room for One Of Our Own^TM because it means fucking), and since all women adore and want children, then women should be falling all over themselves to fuck him, get knocked up by him, marry him and raise his children, not particularly in that order.

So when single Duhs find women who don't want anything to do with their goddamn kids, they either become hostile and throw tantrums like this guy did, or they make promises like, "Oh, you won't ever have to see them" or "I have nothing to do with them." Because that's always a great way to get a lady moist. "Hey baby, I got kids, but I don't support them. Wanna come home with me?" If a guy is willing to completely ignore the existence of the brats he helped make, who knows what else he's hiding or willing to lie about for some pussy.

Also, I have to disagree about single Moos not doing this. They definitely do, but I think Duhs bitch about CFers not wanting them from a different angle. Single Moos are usually out looking for cock and a wallet to trap, but since Duhs are typically the breadwinners, they're looking for a live-in maid/housekeeper/mommy/fuck toy. Single Moos usually want a meal ticket, but single Duhs want someone to mind their bastards.

But one thing they both have in common is neither single Moos nor single Duhs will ever date other single Moos or Duhs. They don't want damaged goods, but for some reason, think that we do. You'd think that would be the obvious answer: if you're a single parent, date another single parent. You have something in common, you have someone who you can only assume can at least put up with kids... how's this anything but the right choice?

I think it's because single parents are interested in being with someone who will make them and their kids the center of the universe while being glad to be #3 on the totem pole at best (under Moo/Duh and brats). A single Duh won't date a single Moo because then not only would Moo not dote on his kids (since her attention would be divided and most likely would lean more toward her own kids), Duh would be expected to give a crap about her kids, which he's not gonna do. After all, he doesn't even like his own kids that much; he just wanted someone with tits to raise them for him.

Like you guys have said, why would any single parent want to be with a childfree person anyway? Why would you want to be with someone who doesn't want or like children? Seems like it'd be a bad match. But single parents are willing to settle for someone totally incompatible if it means getting laid and possibly having someone to raise/pay for their bastards. They don't like that childfree people have actual standards.

Makes me wonder how much you could mess with a single Duh. Tell him, "How much do you want to be with me? If you can get rid of your kids for good, we can talk." How many would try to off their brats for the sake of poon?

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mrs. chinaski
"they find out harshly that the childless woman may be a big baby herself, looking for a “daddy” to buy her things"
-> WTF??? Assumptions much? It's like he says that CF woman are no mature adults!!!

That one was the most idiotic assumption in his whole article. The women who are looking for daddy in their relationships are usually the ones who push out a kid or two in their early twenties (they have to attach themselves to that wallet after all and having kids is the most effective way). The women who don't have kids in their thirties are either childfree or independent enough to support themselves and even if they want to be moos, they are never SAHMs.

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As a group Single Moos are, at least from a dating standpoint, the most whiny, arrogant, self-promoting, narcissistic women in America. When their friends have tried to "set up" dates between them and myself, I've told their friends that I don't date single moos. Their heads practically exploded with rage.

They really think that they're doing you a favor by allowing you to hang out with them and their kydz. Oh, and pay to take them places, too.

Noooo. This is one area where I don't envy men. I have only had one or two women try to set me up with men who have kids. They weren't my friends in the first place so I had no reservations about sparing any feelings. I do think childfree men receive more pressure in this area than women do, most likely because many still have this outmoded thinking where they consider men the breadwinners. Especially single mahms see men as breadwinners. So, I'd guess more childfree men have to endure this. Women are more likely to get stuck with comments about the age/condition of their uterus and how they better have kids fast (or childfree women hear the old saw about how we'll change our mind and it will be too late).

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As a group Single Moos are, at least from a dating standpoint, the most whiny, arrogant, self-promoting, narcissistic women in America. When their friends have tried to "set up" dates between them and myself, I've told their friends that I don't date single moos. Their heads practically exploded with rage.

They really think that they're doing you a favor by allowing you to hang out with them and their kydz. Oh, and pay to take them places, too.

Noooo. This is one area where I don't envy men. I have only had one or two women try to set me up with men who have kids. They weren't my friends in the first place so I had no reservations about sparing any feelings. I do think childfree men receive more pressure in this area than women do, most likely because many still have this outmoded thinking where they consider men the breadwinners. Especially single mahms see men as breadwinners. So, I'd guess more childfree men have to endure this. Women are more likely to get stuck with comments about the age/condition of their uterus and how they better have kids fast (or childfree women hear the old saw about how we'll change our mind and it will be too late).

While single duhs get their manhood insulted and get really offensive and whiny, in my personal experience, single moos play a different game. They seem to keep it low key but they are usually persistent over a long period of time. They will try to reel in a CF guy several times over while keeping a single duh on the side waiting to get the boot. Many single moos would ditch their single duh boyfriend if they only had a better alternative. Many of them do not and will not.

As far as pressure for a CF man to date a single moo, I personally have not experienced any. If anything many people advise against it.

Shit like this makes me thankful I'm a lesbian. :smoke

The only thing less attractive than a single dad is a whiny manchild (I'm joking, there's nothing less attractive to me than a single parent).

I will continue to reject single dads, no matter how much it hurts their poor, precious little feelings.

This makes me glad that I am not in the dating game period. It is just not worth the headaches. Both men and women are equally awful...just in different ways and it is not all about brats either. I am a woman BTW. I used to think that older duhs chased younger women under 40 simply because of the way they looked and their breeding ability. I was wrong. Breeder bitches just ramp up the whining as they get older. If you think a young moo is annoying, you ain't seen shit yet until you've met a middle aged breeder bitch. They are the meanest and whiniest things you've ever met (and not just to wallets either....to everyone they think they can get away with it with). Nothing you do is ever good enough for those fucking cunts. "You didn't close the door right...you're not petting the dog right. All young people are stupid and evil." Blah blah bitch blah. Unfortunately, I've seen the meanness out of middle aged women spill out of breederville and into the childless and childfree community as well.

I remember we were having a conversation on Bratfree about a childfree woman telling her sister something that she should've kept to her damn self. Her sister made her feel worse about the situation and was less than supportive. I said what I said because breeders always think a certain way whether they are your relative or not. They are a breeder first. Some stuff you just cannot tell them. I made a comment such as "why did she tell her sister then? she should have kept that to herself" and Dorisan out of the blue said sarcastically to me "because it is her sister :eyeroll:" or something to that effect. Then another time we were talking about age and the computer industries. I said that computer skills are useful for all ages. You don't have to be an IT specialist but you'd better take your ass down to the local library and learn how to send an email, order prescriptions refills online and do other useful things because you will get left behind by the world. I was using "you" in a general sense, not to any specific person. I think Dorisan knew this deep down but she still made a very sarcastic comment to me like "snork, I know what I am doing...I have been in this industry 80 years".

A lot of middle aged women (breeder or not) have been mice when they were younger and have let people run all over them. Now, they think they've earned the right be a jerk. And when one day out of the blue, their husbands kick them to the curb for a newer model, believe me it is not always about looks or the ability to get inpig.

I have noticed this in real life too. They always have something to say about something and believe me it is never positive. They just have to jump to conclusions and flap their gums. Why did he enter that door instead of that one? He shouldn't have done that. Did you see that young person leaving the Apple store? They think they have all of the sense don't they? There is some overlap but men mainly do shit while women talk shit. I personally think all of that bitching and negativity breaks the body down faster. I know a lot of women only in their 50s with no energy and just seem to be aging a lot faster than normal and coming up with "old people's" diseases, not mere middle aged maladies. I have also noticed that when kids snap and kill their parents, it is usually moo who gets whacked (at least in my state, that is what happens).

I have not been around as long as turtle but I've been around long enough to see some real shit. But men and women will never win at the game of love treating people like they do. And people in general need to treat each other better. The negativity and sarcasm that they spew out goes right back in and will poison them in the end. It is a pity that they cannot see it until it is too late.

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"I have found little that is 'good' about human beings on the whole. In my experience most of them are trash, no matter whether they publicly subscribe to this or that ethical doctrine or to none at all."
~Sigmund Freud

@ peace-n-quiet: 100% agreement!

I've noticed that too.
I think that all the negativity and hatred they feel and show
their bodies interpret as a stress. A long-term stress
weakens immunity system, let the free radicals do their
work - hence premature aging and diseases.

Men are no complicated creatures - they want peace and harmony.
You don't get any of that with an old, bitter breeder who yaps nonstop
about the sacrifices she made her whole fucking life.

They are like the Grinch who spew his venom while sitting on a pile of garbage.

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mrs. chinaski
Men are no complicated creatures - they want peace and harmony.
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mrs. chinaski
Men are no complicated creatures - they want peace and harmony.
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:headbrick

She is correct about CF men. As for duhs, well, that is a different story.

I have a story of refusing to date childed or divorced men that is so full of win, but will need to wait for a time when I'm not pecking out a word at a time on my mobile.

FWIW, I wouldn't marry men w/children OR ex-wives even before I was childfree.
You would not believe, well, yea, I guess all you folks would believe, how much crap I took. Various versions of "you'll be old, bitter, crazy cat lady, etc. my kids are awesome you're a bitch".... ad nauseum.

In the end, I married a man for who he is, inside, for his brain and his wit and for his total and absolute devotion to me. The "kids or no kids" issue didn't come up until after we were married and made the decision (he got the snip), but when I hear from people that old tired dog of "you don't know love until you have a child", well, how sad is that? I mean, you marry someone buy you don't love them until you sprog with them? That doesn't really sound very "family values" to me. If I really want to piss off a breeder, I simply say, "My husband gives me all the love I can possible handle. I don't need anyone else but him. And maybe a couple of cats."

@the noodler: you have a very good point about breeders associating love with kids. From what I have noticed, breeders don't really have anything that I could call love. They may experience lust, but that is different from actual love. When I look at a breeder who is in a relationship, it is generally always about that particular breeder and very rarely about the other person. It is about what the breeder gets, what the breeder wants, what is the breeder happy with, what is the breeder unhappy with, what would make breeder happy and so on. When breeders enter a relationship, it is for convenience, practicality, perks and self gratification. As far as for a breeder to be in a relationship because they want to be with the person, that is rare.

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This is so true. I used to place online dating profiles that SPECIFICALLY stated I want a man with no kids. I would still get multitude of replies from single duhs with replies like: "ahh, but my kids are great." Or "but my kids stay with their mother." Well, sure they do, but as you said, why the hell would they be interested in a woman who's not interested in their kids? Don't they have any regard for their kids at all?!

If I came across a dude's profile that said he wanted a woman without cats, I wouldn't reply, and I don't even have a cat at the present time, but I love cats. I have more regard for cats than these dudes have for their own kids! *smh*

I have had the same experience as you. I found this to be true because when it comes to dating sites most duhs only look at pictures, not words. I think it is safe to say all most of them care about is appearance and they hope to find an attractive woman and then come the concerns of whether or not she will fit in their life.

AKA babysit when they want to be out with the guys, jump in and become the housekeeper, make tasty meals, perhaps even have mind boggling conversations about stupid tv programs and popular culture (it isn't as if there is enough time to develop interesting hobbies), and regular sex all for the sheer joy of having a duh in her pathetic life.

Guessing this works on some women who can't begin to understand cost benefit analysis. It doesn't make sense to expect equality 100% of the time but if a relationship is seriously lopsided it may be time to look a little closer at these things. There may be a situation where a duh and a childless woman can be somewhat equal in footing but I imagine the scale will always lean in favor of the duh and substantially more compromises/sacrifices will be expected from the woman.

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Techie said, "However, I don't usually see or hear about single moos continuously bitching and whining that no CF men wants to date them."

You just aren't looking in the right places online. Plenty of pieces have appeared in disparate sites about how single moos are awesome, how they make the best dates and mates, etc., etc. But the trend seems to be more about shaming language to get men to date them, than simply complaining (as single duhs do about CF women) that men won't date them. Here's an example of the genre:

http://thoughtcatalog.com/jessica-nicholas/2014/11/4-reasons-why-dating-a-single-mom-is-actually-awesome/

So both genders burdened with sprogs complain that potential mates without won't consider them. Pretty funny.

Now K-Man has a story. I freely admit I'm not a particularly attractive person physically, though I've had steady jobs and been pretty responsible all my life. One woman practically threw herself at me years ago when I was in my early 20s. She even called me "Mr. Right". We both worked at the same place (second, part-time job for me; primary, full-time job for her). She was older, pushing 40 if she wasn't already there, and had four kids.

Her husband had left her and wasn't supporting the brood he helped to bring into this world one bit, and this was just before the child support crackdown when many guys were still getting away with that shit. Oh, and she said she had had enough children, meaning she didn't want any with me. (I had to ask her that just to see to see what her ideas were; I had no interest in having children then as now.) Clearly I would have been just a wallet paying for another man's sprogs. Ha ha and ha. No, I stayed away from her and left that job not long after.

In fact, pondering that almost 30 years later: suppose I had made the mistake of getting involved with her and, let's say, marrying her. I'm in my early 50s. She would be about—brace yourself—70 now.

K-Man didn't dodge a bullet: I wasn't placing himself in the line of fire in the first place. But this example shows you how desperate some single parents can get. The duhs we discuss here are just as bad, but instead of another wallet, they seem more likely to be looking for a substitute mommy to leave the grunt work of caring for their kyds.

Oh noes, K Man - I has a sad for you ~


I will guess that you are not as un attractive as you think either.

I am a fairly attractive woman - it doesn't do me much good. Controlling men who wanted to turn me into a Stepford Moo. Or Married Duhs hitting on me in the work place.

It gives you a bad opinion of people. Where's the so called 'Love of your FAMBLEE'?, Married Duh?
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My father was a cheater who left my Mom too. Many relatives were cheaters. And 90% of them are divorced and remarried multiple times.

I don't have much faith in people You can get a 'blighted mind' also ~

But - we can also try to seek the good, and keep what optimism we can.

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peace-n-quiet
Unfortunately, I've seen the meanness out of middle aged women spill out of breederville and into the childless and childfree community as well.

I haven't noticed a specific age, breeder/parent/childfree, or sex being mean, it seems to me there are mean people represented in all groups. I also knew mean people of all ages when I was a kid and I'd bet most if not all of them are still mean.

Jeez, middle-aged women being "nasty, bitter and angry bitches" couldn't possibly have anything to do with the rampant misogyny/sexism/ageism out there, right?

And guess what? You'll get older too. And one day you'll wake up feeling like you're in some fucking "Logan's Run" nightmare - except it's all real. And it's not just for women; it's happening to men more and more too, especially in the workplace and job market.

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peace-n-quiet
Unfortunately, I've seen the meanness out of middle aged women spill out of breederville and into the childless and childfree community as well.

I haven't noticed a specific age, breeder/parent/childfree, or sex being mean, it seems to me there are mean people represented in all groups. I also knew mean people of all ages when I was a kid and I'd bet most if not all of them are still mean.

"Hurting people hurt people." This is one of my all-time favorite sayings; it doesn't have a stipulation on age.

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"Hurting people hurt people." This is one of my all-time favorite sayings; it doesn't have a stipulation on age.

that's pretty true you can be 20 and a bitch or 80 and a bitch, im pretty sure theirs a saying related to how personality and beliefs don't really change over time, they just ripen with age into a more seasoned version of the same thing.

this bitter duh wont change even if he finds someone to do all the cunt work, he'll likely drop her like a hot potato once the brats an adult, replace her with a fun bags edition that hasn't much wear and tear, till he's a bit older still, then sport one that is all about caring for him in his old age. that's how I see this guy going through life, that is, IF he can find someone who will give him the time of day.

makes you wonder what kind of traumatic experience he had as a kid, to not want to find someone and stay with them through thick and thin.

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peace-n-quiet
Unfortunately, I've seen the meanness out of middle aged women spill out of breederville and into the childless and childfree community as well.

I haven't noticed a specific age, breeder/parent/childfree, or sex being mean, it seems to me there are mean people represented in all groups. I also knew mean people of all ages when I was a kid and I'd bet most if not all of them are still mean.

I have to agree with Freya here. I too was not able to notice a pattern to a specific group. I have met nice people in many different settings. Believe it or not, I even know some duhs and moos that are decent to me. For me, it has been hit or miss. Are there bitter CF people? I am sure there are. As far as age goes, older folks have been decent towards me just as often as younger folks.

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Zzelda
I don't have much faith in people sad You can get a 'blighted mind' also ~

But - we can also try to seek the good, and keep what optimism we can. smiling

I hear you there. I too have a few life experiences that sometimes remind me of what human nature can like at times.

I do try to keep some hope though. They say that only 50% of marriages end up in divorce, that means that other 50% do not. I am thinking out of those 50% that stay together, there is probably a good chunk of them that is good. Even if only 25% of all relationships are good, that means that there is still a chance for those who want a relationship.

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Zzelda
Controlling men who wanted to turn me into a Stepford Moo. Or Married Duhs hitting on me in the work place.

Try not to feel too bad. It is mostly something that comes with being CF. I too had wanna moos try to convince me to try to breed. I am glad they gave up. Today, I am very glad that I was able to stand my ground. You should be too. You are the winner, you stood for what you believed in and your life is now the way that you want it to be.

Once again, MRAs with impossibly high standards whine about women daring to have any standards at all... and it's a bit rich given the MRA obsession with women "keeping their partner counts low" and preferring their partners to be virgins when a single duh has living, breathing proof that he's been shagging other women.

It's interesting to see plenty of comments calling women "sluts" for disagreeing with the original blog post- a man can decide a woman is a "slut" on the basis of nothing at all, yet we can't call a single duh the same word when we have evidence that he's been putting it about? And we can't judge him for having a failed relationship, making an ill-advised decision to breed with an unsuitable partner and leaving some poor child who didn't ask to be born with all the stress of growing up being shuttled between resentful parents, going through custody battles, etc? Nah, men are free to call us "sluts" over nothing but we have to give single duhs the benefit of the doubt and ignore their poor life choices...

That's another MRA double standard right there:

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Mark [in reply to Katja]
Funny, you don't even seem to accept the possibility that there is the example of the single full-time dad, who is so because the mother left the kid(s). As is my case. That happens too you know.

theguy12 [in reply to Mark]
Exactly!! Some women are cheating wh*res who leave a man for someone else, or are complete psycho's.
But to rationalizing, justifying b*tches like Katja, they will pretend that every single father is a terrible person, because that makes her feel less guilty for ignoring men simply bcuz they can provide her less money.

MRAs love to blame women for their own abuse, going on about "women's agency" and accusing them of "always going for bad boys", "playing the victim" and bringing it on themselves, while a man who is abused is never accused of "going for bad girls" and is pitied as the a helpless little victim of an evil scheming "psycho". Why is is that only women are expected to have some kind of psychic ability to spot abusers before they start to abuse?

Incidentally, kids or no kids, I would never date a man who refers to his ex as a "cheating wh*re" or a "psycho". "theguy12" here just sounds like one of those "...and then the bitch left me for no reason" MRAs who see themselves as totally blameless when their relationships break up. In any case this kind of corrosive hatred and bitterness towards an ex is never attractive- what woman would want a man with that kind of attitude towards women? As "evagreen26" put it quite wonderfully in the comments, men like this have "more baggage than a drag queen on a road trip".

This is Bratfree. womenagainstfeminism.tumblr.com is somewhere over there ->

Damn, the tone of this thread went down faster than Lindsay Lohan in a frat house!

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who haven't got it."
George Bernard Shaw

"An oyster can play catch if u only give it the oprotunity"
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"hate comments will be deleted!! fuckers!"
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I hope that wasn't aimed at me, yurble! I'm a feminist and proud, which is one of many reasons why I'd never date a single duh hoping to snag a babysitter-with-benefits! It was me who started the thread about that tumblr on account of it being full of wannamoos whose highest "ambition" is to find a mayun to sponge off so they can sit at home all day looking after his baybees.

Reading the comments about dating here is making me glad I'm out of the whole dating game. I remember my brief foray into the world of online dating and finding pretty much every man on there put "yes" or "someday" to the "do you want children?" question- some left it blank but I don't recall seeing a single flat-out "no". Not a day goes by when I don't feel lucky for finding a man who is averse to breeding as I am, I never thought I'd find one!