CF/CL woman donates $22M to zoo in Germany

https://www.yahoo.com/news/93-old-american-woman-donates-22-mn-cologne-134614390.html

Just thought that was cool. Wild Putty Tats are beautiful

I love it!

There was a guy locally who left $500k to fund a new animal shelter (which the county BADLY needed). He left relatives behind, and I'm sure they all got something, but everyone I knew (including his nephew) thought it was just great. However, I got into an argument/debate with my SIL's idiot father who thought the money should have gone to help humans. His first mistake was starting his question with "But don't you think..." which to me is just another way of saying, "Whatever your own thoughts, you're wrong and what I'm about to say is the only right answer." I argued him down until he had no response, and when one of my nephews tried to side with good ol' grandpa, I argued him down, too.

And in a very surprising (to me, anyway) twist, my brother walked through the room during the discussion, turned his head so neither FIL nor son could see him, and flashed me a huge smile. Apparently he actually appreciated that I was logically defending my position, which is pretty rare for him.

Anyway, I've faced these insipid arguments too many times not to have ready answers in the face of stupidity. It was very satisfying.

One of the long time producers of The Simpsons passed from cancer a while back and he was childfree (or childless) and left his Simpsons millions to animal charities.

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One of the long time producers of The Simpsons passed from cancer a while back and he was childfree (or childless) and left his Simpsons millions to animal charities.

Sam Simon, yeah. Animals were a primary cause of his while he was alive, as well.

I can just picture the comments now - breeders in their droves lowing about "but think how many chyldren could've been helped with that money!!!111".

For every person that donates to animal charities there are 9 who refuse to because "people should come first".

But.....but......but......she would have made the world a better place if she's laid back, sluiced a loaf and done something really noteworthy with her life.

Remember, Kids, this would all be overshadowed had she experienced The Greatest Love of All^TM for a womb product.


Back to reality: what an awesomely cool thing to do.

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For every person that donates to animal charities there are 9 who refuse to because "people should come first".

That was exactly my experience. "Don't you think that money should have gone to help humans?" Why no, you callous son of a bitch, I don't.

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For every person that donates to animal charities there are 9 who refuse to because "people should come first".

That was exactly my experience. "Don't you think that money should have gone to help humans?" Why no, you callous son of a bitch, I don't.

Wasn't there a Prudie letter recently about someone whose partner would only donate money to help animals and not people after hurricane Harvey? The LW was like "surely people need that money more, even if they did vote for Trump?" And Prudie was like "helping animals is cool but it's still cruel to put a stipulation on helping people because of their political stance".

Bitch no! How many animals got left behind to die because of people who didn't care enough to bring their furry family members when they evacuated?

http://www.theonion.com/article/houston-residents-begin-surveying-damage-200-years-56784

The Onion did an article on human activity, population and climate change. I also noticed that some commenters were donating just to pets for the reason above.

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For every person that donates to animal charities there are 9 who refuse to because "people should come first".

That was exactly my experience. "Don't you think that money should have gone to help humans?" Why no, you callous son of a bitch, I don't.

Wasn't there a Prudie letter recently about someone whose partner would only donate money to help animals and not people after hurricane Harvey? The LW was like "surely people need that money more, even if they did vote for Trump?" And Prudie was like "helping animals is cool but it's still cruel to put a stipulation on helping people because of their political stance".

Bitch no! How many animals got left behind to die because of people who didn't care enough to bring their furry family members when they evacuated?

I could not agree more. In many cases, people can help themselves; animals depend on us. My heart goes out to helpless and hurting critters, tbh.

I think there is also a 'No pets allowed' at many evacuation centers. It might be that it isn't a case of callous people leaving their pets behind, but more of one where they can't take them with them, no matter how much they might. Thete are people fighting to overturn this, but in some places it might take a while.

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I think there is also a 'No pets allowed' at many evacuation centers. It might be that it isn't a case of callous people leaving their pets behind, but more of one where they can't take them with them, no matter how much they might. Thete are people fighting to overturn this, but in some places it might take a while.

It's a difficult problem, though, not as simple as changing rules and making all centers pet-friendly. There are people with genuine allergies to animals, and there are also poorly socialized pets (could be crummy owners, could be rescue animals) that present a danger to other animals.

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It's a difficult problem, though, not as simple as changing rules and making all centers pet-friendly. There are people with genuine allergies to animals, and there are also poorly socialized pets (could be crummy owners, could be rescue animals) that present a danger to other animals.

Poorly socialized pets aren't a problem if they're crated. As for allergies, well, I feel the same way about that as I do about people demanding that airlines restrict what food is served because some precious genetic defect might have a peanut allergy. If your allergies are severe enough to threaten your life, then carry whatever medications you might need in an emergency with you. If they don't threaten your life, then don't make some family lose their cat or dog because you're gonna sneeze around it.

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I could not agree more. In many cases, people can help themselves; animals depend on us. My heart goes out to helpless and hurting critters, tbh.

That's it exactly. Humans have choices that animals don't.

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It's a difficult problem, though, not as simple as changing rules and making all centers pet-friendly. There are people with genuine allergies to animals, and there are also poorly socialized pets (could be crummy owners, could be rescue animals) that present a danger to other animals.

Poorly socialized pets aren't a problem if they're crated. As for allergies, well, I feel the same way about that as I do about people demanding that airlines restrict what food is served because some precious genetic defect might have a peanut allergy. If your allergies are severe enough to threaten your life, then carry whatever medications you might need in an emergency with you. If they don't threaten your life, then don't make some family lose their cat or dog because you're gonna sneeze around it.

Normally I would say that it is best for people with allergies to try to avoid situations where they will be exposed to things they're allergic to, since medicines are not a solution for all allergies. However, in the case of an emergency evacuation, people can't exactly choose to avoid the situation.

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I think there is also a 'No pets allowed' at many evacuation centers. It might be that it isn't a case of callous people leaving their pets behind, but more of one where they can't take them with them, no matter how much they might. Thete are people fighting to overturn this, but in some places it might take a while.

I understand that it sometimes isn't possible to take your pets with you, but some of these animals are being chained to trees and fences and left to drown. It's one thing to have to leave your pet behind because of evacuation center rules, it's quite another to leave the animal with no means of escape from danger.

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I understand that it sometimes isn't possible to take your pets with you, but some of these animals are being chained to trees and fences and left to drown. It's one thing to have to leave your pet behind because of evacuation center rules, it's quite another to leave the animal with no means of escape from danger.

People who do shit like that should be denied access to the shelters. They don't deserve it.

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Normally I would say that it is best for people with allergies to try to avoid situations where they will be exposed to things they're allergic to, since medicines are not a solution for all allergies. However, in the case of an emergency evacuation, people can't exactly choose to avoid the situation.

So what if you're allergic to a human's scent - deodorant, or cologne, or shampoo? I've heard about severe breathing allergies to all of these. There should be some mechanism in place so everyone can survive, allergen-ridden or not.