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freya
Is this normal behavior for today? Allowing your minor kid free reign to a credit card? How on earth can a parent hope for a positive result from teaching a kid if they want something to beg for it or just giving it to them?
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freya
Timely letter received yesterday. Relative begging for money to go to Europe for a "mission trip" costing $3,500 plus a bunch of additional fees. Relative is a minor and has never had a job nor shown any interest in working. Relative didn't even bother to address the envelope, another relative did that work. Our new begging culture makes this perfectly acceptable, I guess. If there is anything relative is good at, it is begging and getting exactly what is wanted.
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cfuter
My teenaged niece (now in college tho) had/has free range of her dad's CC, there's a 1000 limit of some kind, but it automatically increases the limit w/ just an email alert that her dad never reads. So she , in other words, has unlimited funds to spend on Starbucks or whatever she wants. Her dad is like a 'platinum member' or whatever at Starbucks because of how much money she has spent there in his name.
If I was given this, I dont know what I would spend it on. After a while there's only so many lunches, dinners, or even clothes you can buy (where would you store it all, and the parents don't see the closet? I dont know?) . But yes, this is evidently normal these days.
Aren't you glad you aren't a 2017 parent?
This is why no one can afford to retire, by the way.
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freya
Is this normal behavior for today? Allowing your minor kid free reign to a credit card? How on earth can a parent hope for a positive result from teaching a kid if they want something to beg for it or just giving it to them?
The short-term damage of this practice is the bill that the father will get at the end of the month. The long-term damage will be if/when that same 16 year old grows up to be 26 or 36 and has no concept on how to manage money or the value of money.Quote
freya
Timely letter received yesterday. Relative begging for money to go to Europe for a "mission trip" costing $3,500 plus a bunch of additional fees. Relative is a minor and has never had a job nor shown any interest in working. Relative didn't even bother to address the envelope, another relative did that work. Our new begging culture makes this perfectly acceptable, I guess. If there is anything relative is good at, it is begging and getting exactly what is wanted.
A "mission" trip as in doing charitable works for God?
Sorry, I'm calling bullshit on this. You don't need to spend $3500 and fly all over the world to do good works. Team up with your local food pantry, soup kitchen, Lions Club, Rotary, Meals on Wheels, Habitat for Humanity, or any number of organizations that are located near you, and you'll find PLENTY of opportunities to provide virtually any kind of aid to those who are in need. I guarantee you, needy people are much closer than you think. You don't have to hop on an airplane to Europe. Hell... you might note even need to get into a car, depending on your location.
I question people who spend thousands of dollars and travel thousands of miles to do charitable works, when their very neighbors are in need. I believe what they are really interested in is attention whoring and virtue signaling.
Re: Conference speaker panders to lazy parenting October 11, 2017 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,712 |
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I've noticed teens (high school upperclassmen) have debit cards now, but that's more a reflection of how people pay for stuff. That doesn't bother me, as my own parents set up a checking account for me when I was in high school. It contained only my money (they didn't fund it), and they taught me to manage it. I figure debit accounts are more or less the modern equivalent.
As for credit cards...my childed friends with teens don't let their kids use their credit cards. But these are the same parents who didn't let their kids play with their phones, either, so I'm not shocked. I would not be surprised if one of my PNB friends sets her daughter up with some 'training wheels' credit card so the kid can learn to use it properly with some guidance while still a senior in high school, instead of just letting her "discover" credit cards in college.
As for the mission trip...my thoughts are similar to Studio54. There's a lot that needs doing nearby, and let them earn the money for it. If it's a church trip, the church should be setting up ways for the kids to earn the money (car washes and the like). I flat-out refuse to buy from adults for kid-group fundraisers (scouts, etc). If it's an organization/cause I support, I'll say something like "I would buy some if Madison were selling them in person, though." Kids do not benefit from having their parents handle stuff like that. The ones who actually work toward their experiences are more invested and get more from it.
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IDK, my parents didnt set me up w/ any CC. A friend of a friend had one, maybe in my freshman year of college, so I got a MasterCharge and a couple of store cards because she did. I didnt even think I needed it but I did it. And, I managed my money. I charged stuff just to charge stuff and I would pay it back.
I know my boss' kids went to South America to do charity work so they could put it on their resumes/LinkedIN. Now they are like 30-ish and one works in a mail room and daddy got the other one a job, so much for the fancy resume. ( My resume had my work history of working in a clothes store, yet I got a job by myself in a Fortune 500 company...not in the mail room either) I dont see teens and college kids do anything on their own now, at least in my circle of friends, and my friends aren't poor but they arent rich either.
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Sounds like you know responsible people who are raising good kids randomcfchick. Wish that was the norm and not the exception.
If it were a legitimate mission trip then it would be up to the kids to raise the money and the location wouldn't be Ireland. And if the relative really wants to go then why can't he extend any effort and address those darn envelopes? Like you said, there is a lot that needs doing nearby.
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""Aren't you glad you aren't a 2017 parent?""
just glad I ain't a parent, period.
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