Bio clock is a result of societal conditioning February 05, 2018 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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Biological clocks are not ticking time bombs waiting to take over our abilities to control our own desires and plans. Sure, the biological clock is real in the sense that it’s really true that as they age, women’s – and men’s! – fertility declines. But this “clock” does not cause us to change our minds about wanting to become parents (or not).
Instead, something just as powerful as biology – how we’re socialized – may drive some previously childfree people to decide they want to become parents after all. That’s right. The mystical force driving some people to want to parent is social, not genetic.
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Techie
I just remembered another way that society conditions people to breed. If I had a dollar for every time that a man, who refuses to breed, is told: "So, you like milk but don't want to buy the cow?" Translation: if a man refuses to breed than he is a freeloader and just uses women.
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I just remembered another way that society conditions people to breed. If I had a dollar for every time that a man, who refuses to breed, is told: "So, you like milk but don't want to buy the cow?" Translation: if a man refuses to breed than he is a freeloader and just uses women.
I thought that phrase was generally used to refer to men who don't want to get married. Now it is used to refer to not wanting to breed?
I object to both uses, with what they imply about female sexuality. It's on both partners to communicate how they feel about marriage and children, to listen to what their partners are saying, and then to make a decision about the relationship based on the compatibility of aims.
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I thought that phrase was generally used to refer to men who don't want to get married. Now it is used to refer to not wanting to breed?
I object to both uses, with what they imply about female sexuality. It's on both partners to communicate how they feel about marriage and children, to listen to what their partners are saying, and then to make a decision about the relationship based on the compatibility of aims.
Breeding is the new form of "commitment". Simple old school minds have learned that nobody buys into marrage idea anymore, it is now breeding.
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"Biological Clock" simple means personal desire manifesting itself. It's not a whole lot different than a person who has always wanted a Porsche finally saving enough cash to buy one.
Questioning the existence of this mythical clock is taboo, of course. And I've seen women face such questions regarding it.
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"Biological Clock" simple means personal desire manifesting itself. It's not a whole lot different than a person who has always wanted a Porsche finally saving enough cash to buy one.
Questioning the existence of this mythical clock is taboo, of course. And I've seen women face such questions regarding it.
I agree 100%. To me, it sounds like breeding is like a religion that is not supposed to be questioned by anyone at any time. We know what happened to those who questioned religion in dark ages. At best, those people were called insane. Today, anyone who questions breeding urges, they are not called very nice names.
Just like people have a "good" reason to spend $5000 on a Super Bowl ticket, people find a "good" reason to why they need a Porsche or why they need to breed. I have heard anything from people saying that God was talking to them or that it was their calling.
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Yep... but there's one significant difference: those who purchase expensive event tickets and fancy cars aren't asking their friends for hundreds of dollars worth of gifts every year, nor are they obtaining 18 years worth of taxpayer subsidies to help finance the cost of those items.
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Techie
With all of the talk of carbon footprint and carbon credits, CF people are the ones who should be paid carbon credits, since by not reproducing, we do not add as much to carbon footprint as those who do reproduce. We should be the ones getting the tax breaks.
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If a woman tells a mother that she does not want to breed, hell breaks lose.
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I will not get into what kind of verbal abuse women get, because it is all over this board. If a woman tells a mother that she does not want to breed, hell breaks lose.
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I have never regretted being childfree. And as I prepare for early retirement this summer, I am so happy that I have no extra mouths to feed, clothe or try to educate.
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