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In the family’s modest New Jersey home, the bedroom looked like a laundry explosion, and the morning’s breakfast dishes were piled in the sink. But Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde.
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Re: The Retro Moo February 21, 2018 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
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bell_flower
I have only made it to the first page, but I already disagree with this:Quote
In the family’s modest New Jersey home, the bedroom looked like a laundry explosion, and the morning’s breakfast dishes were piled in the sink. But Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde.
False, false and false. Those of us who grew up with moms in the 50's and 60's such as myself can attest to what life was really like with a "retro mom."
Prior to my father's death in 1970**, my mom stayed home with the kids. She ran a tight ship and her job was to extend the dollars as far as possible, not be a 24/7 entertainment center for a loaf or child. We were expected to pick things up and entertain ourselves to a great extent.
When we went somewhere with her, we were expected to behave in public because anything else was simply not tolerated. I would have never been allowed to act like the feral yard apes I see in public today. My parents had a social life which excluded us and we were not permanently scarred by this experience. There was a parent/child boundary---my mom wasn't our "best friend--" she and my dad were authority figures to be respected. This meant when I entered the work force I could respect an authority figure and do a job, unlike many of the spoiled, I-can't-take-feedback special sneauflakes I encounter in the work force today.
My mom never would never called my dad at work several times a day because that would have indicated she was not competent at her job. One need only look at the lexicon of today when women are passive "stay at home moms." My mom was a homemaker. The kids were part of the family system, not the raison d'etre for the family. And the family functioned with one car, no disposable diapers, no cell phones, one TV, smaller house, no rampant consumer debt, shared bedrooms for the kids and 1/50 of the convenience items of today.
**And by the way, if you want a real lesson in feminism, have your father die when your mom is 33 with no college education, when credit was still in the husband's name, when there are no decent "career opportunities" for women because every woman is to stay at home with brats. Things were starting to change in 1970, but the movement was in its infancy. To my mom's credit, she went back to the labor force and to college but it certainly was not easy for her or the family.
And PUL-EASE, spare me the pseudo-feminist drivel about how it's a "feminist" choice to stay home and raise brats. Staying home and raising brats is a default choice for a woman. Feminism should be about one thing: equal pay for equal work, not equal pay for the personal choice to shit out a brat and demand that nothing change in one's career advancement.
This is why senior citizens like me are pissed at the moos of today: they are staying home, chortling about the *fabulous* job they are doing raising these worthless, coddled little psychopaths who are being lapped by Third World kids who grow up with much less but have a strong work ethic, values and a Hell of a lot more gumption I see in most kids today.
*********** in riled up senior/curmudgeon mode today***************
Re: The Retro Moo February 21, 2018 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
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mumofsixbirds
No dishwasher, only common area laundry room, etc. Furnishings were always kept pristine, but they were sparse and old. And she worked hard as a hairdresser. On Saturdays, she took me to work and I helped her with sweeping hair, giving the ladies their magazines under the dryers, and other things. During the week, I was essentially a 'latch key' kid, and had to follow my mother's instructions to a T after coming home from school.
She wasn't my best friend. I already had one of those in Elementary school. I needed a mother, and while mine was far from perfect, she provided me with the basics to raise me.
Every mother may be a woman, buit not every woman is a mother and I think this is where they fall short in their 'feminist' ideals.
Re: The Retro Moo February 21, 2018 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,701 |
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bell_flower
I have only made it to the first page, but I already disagree with this:Quote
In the family’s modest New Jersey home, the bedroom looked like a laundry explosion, and the morning’s breakfast dishes were piled in the sink. But Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde.
False, false and false. Those of us who grew up with moms in the 50's and 60's such as myself can attest to what life was really like with a "retro mom."
Prior to my father's death in 1970**, my mom stayed home with the kids. She ran a tight ship and her job was to extend the dollars as far as possible, not be a 24/7 entertainment center for a loaf or child. We were expected to pick things up and entertain ourselves to a great extent.
When we went somewhere with her, we were expected to behave in public because anything else was simply not tolerated. I would have never been allowed to act like the feral yard apes I see in public today. My parents had a social life which excluded us and we were not permanently scarred by this experience. There was a parent/child boundary---my mom wasn't our "best friend--" she and my dad were authority figures to be respected. This meant when I entered the work force I could respect an authority figure and do a job, unlike many of the spoiled, I-can't-take-feedback special sneauflakes I encounter in the work force today.
My mom never would never called my dad at work several times a day because that would have indicated she was not competent at her job. One need only look at the lexicon of today when women are passive "stay at home moms." My mom was a homemaker. The kids were part of the family system, not the raison d'etre for the family. And the family functioned with one car, no disposable diapers, no cell phones, one TV, smaller house, no rampant consumer debt, shared bedrooms for the kids and 1/50 of the convenience items of today.
**And by the way, if you want a real lesson in feminism, have your father die when your mom is 33 with no college education, when credit was still in the husband's name, when there are no decent "career opportunities" for women because every woman is to stay at home with brats. Things were starting to change in 1970, but the movement was in its infancy. To my mom's credit, she went back to the labor force and to college but it certainly was not easy for her or the family.
And PUL-EASE, spare me the pseudo-feminist drivel about how it's a "feminist" choice to stay home and raise brats. Staying home and raising brats is a default choice for a woman. Feminism should be about one thing: equal pay for equal work, not equal pay for the personal choice to shit out a brat and demand that nothing change in one's career advancement.
This is why senior citizens like me are pissed at the moos of today: they are staying home, chortling about the *fabulous* job they are doing raising these worthless, coddled little psychopaths who are being lapped by Third World kids who grow up with much less but have a strong work ethic, values and a Hell of a lot more gumption I see in most kids today.
*********** in riled up senior/curmudgeon mode today***************
Re: The Retro Moo February 22, 2018 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 5,622 |
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bell_flower
And PUL-EASE, spare me the pseudo-feminist drivel about how it's a "feminist" choice to stay home and raise brats. Staying home and raising brats is a default choice for a woman. Feminism should be about one thing: equal pay for equal work, not equal pay for the personal choice to shit out a brat and demand that nothing change in one's career advancement.
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Peace
At 12, he showed us how to mow the lawn and from then on, he never mowed or trimmed anything outside. The kids mowed the lawn, trimmed the hedges, pulled weeds, and shoveled snow. We were the only girls on the block who could use hand tools AND knew how to use a needle and thread.
Re: The Retro Moo February 22, 2018 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,701 |
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cfuter
I dont know how the real retro moms did it, it seems like they did ten times as much and complained ten time less.
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bell_flower
I have only made it to the first page, but I already disagree with this:Quote
In the family’s modest New Jersey home, the bedroom looked like a laundry explosion, and the morning’s breakfast dishes were piled in the sink. But Kelly’s priorities are nothing if not retrograde.
False, false and false. Those of us who grew up with moms in the 50's and 60's such as myself can attest to what life was really like with a "retro mom."
Prior to my father's death in 1970**, my mom stayed home with the kids. She ran a tight ship and her job was to extend the dollars as far as possible, not be a 24/7 entertainment center for a loaf or child. We were expected to pick things up and entertain ourselves to a great extent.
When we went somewhere with her, we were expected to behave in public because anything else was simply not tolerated. I would have never been allowed to act like the feral yard apes I see in public today. My parents had a social life which excluded us and we were not permanently scarred by this experience. There was a parent/child boundary---my mom wasn't our "best friend--" she and my dad were authority figures to be respected. This meant when I entered the work force I could respect an authority figure and do a job, unlike many of the spoiled, I-can't-take-feedback special sneauflakes I encounter in the work force today.
My mom never would never called my dad at work several times a day because that would have indicated she was not competent at her job. One need only look at the lexicon of today when women are passive "stay at home moms." My mom was a homemaker. The kids were part of the family system, not the raison d'etre for the family. And the family functioned with one car, no disposable diapers, no cell phones, one TV, smaller house, no rampant consumer debt, shared bedrooms for the kids and 1/50 of the convenience items of today.
**And by the way, if you want a real lesson in feminism, have your father die when your mom is 33 with no college education, when credit was still in the husband's name, when there are no decent "career opportunities" for women because every woman is to stay at home with brats. Things were starting to change in 1970, but the movement was in its infancy. To my mom's credit, she went back to the labor force and to college but it certainly was not easy for her or the family.
And PUL-EASE, spare me the pseudo-feminist drivel about how it's a "feminist" choice to stay home and raise brats. Staying home and raising brats is a default choice for a woman. Feminism should be about one thing: equal pay for equal work, not equal pay for the personal choice to shit out a brat and demand that nothing change in one's career advancement.
This is why senior citizens like me are pissed at the moos of today: they are staying home, chortling about the *fabulous* job they are doing raising these worthless, coddled little psychopaths who are being lapped by Third World kids who grow up with much less but have a strong work ethic, values and a Hell of a lot more gumption I see in most kids today.
*********** in riled up senior/curmu dgeon mode today***************