This sounds familiar...

I am sure that more than one person on this board has been down this dead end street. To breeders, love and trust, none of that matters at all. It is all about if a person is willing to breed or not. Even if a breeder stops nagging for a period of time, the harassment will return and will certainly do serious damages.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/how-john-cena-and-nikki-bella-disagreeing-over-having-kids-caused-tension-in-their-relationship/ar-AAvWDRZ?

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John Cena and Nikki Bella‘s sudden split after six years together came as a shock to fans, but there were signs the couple was drifting apart.
For years, the wrestlers struggled to connect when it came to their future as parents. Cena, 40, was steadfastly against having children, while Bella, 34, was vocal about her desire to be a mother.
“I do want to be a mom,” Bella told Cena in 2013 on Total Divas. “I feel like I’d be missing out.”
“I’m going to choose my words carefully,” Cena replied. “I can’t give you that.”

It is really fortunate for both of them that this happened prior to the wedding. Cena told her on the first date he isn't having kids so she should have told him she is 100% wanting kids then they could have gone separate ways. And he was 34 at the time he said it, not 16 and a flaky teenager. And now she is 34, single and on a serious time crunch because she wasted 6 years chasing a waterfall.

I've been in Cena's situation numerous times and have sympathy for him. Since he doesn't want to marry at least he didn't lose 6 years of his life finding the right woman. I hope he has been having a great time and the "she wants kids" hasn't been a ongoing discussion until recently which cause the breakup.

I really don't get it, if I wanted kids I could have had them at any time as there are always men who want them in steady supply. Why on earth date a childfree man if a woman wants kids?

At least this is a case where, even if they should have split sooner given their incompatibilities, both people were honest about their intentions and there was no reproductive coercion. I don't know if Cena was guilty of thinking that she would change - Bella was almost certainly guilty of thinking he would change - or if he was just going to enjoy it while it lasted. Thinking that someone will change is a fault, but in this case it seems like the person holding the unrealistic views hurt themselves the most.

An update. Looks like John is raising the white flag and is considering breeding. #spineless

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/john-cena-and-nikki-bellas-split-why-she-ended-it-and-how-hes-winning-her-back/ar-AAxkBBK

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On Monday, Cena said he’s now open to the idea of having children.
“I love her. I want to be with her. I want to make her my wife,” he said on the Today show. “I want to be the father of her children. I just want us to work.”

Let me guess how it went. John got some talking to by his pro-breeder surrounding and is doing what he was told.

The guy knows that nannies will provide plenty of time away from the kids and he can show up for Kodak moments. What I don’t think he’s prepared for is the personality change that MOO-hood will inevitably bring.

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The guy knows that nannies will provide plenty of time away from the kids and he can show up for Kodak moments. What I don’t think he’s prepared for is the personality change that MOO-hood will inevitably bring.

Do you see a $10,000/month child support in the future?

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The guy knows that nannies will provide plenty of time away from the kids and he can show up for Kodak moments. What I don’t think he’s prepared for is the personality change that MOO-hood will inevitably bring.

Do you see a $10,000/month child support in the future?

Yes, was really disappointing to see him "change his mind" and when he claimed not wanting kids was selfish of him I wanted to vomit. This just gives the morons who think we will all change our minds more ammo. But a 40 year old and 34 year old will likely be at least 41 and 35 before any kids are born. And at those ages there is a good chance any kids will have issues from geezer breeding.

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The guy knows that nannies will provide plenty of time away from the kids and he can show up for Kodak moments. What I don’t think he’s prepared for is the personality change that MOO-hood will inevitably bring.

Do you see a $10,000/month child support in the future?

But a 40 year old and 34 year old will likely be at least 41 and 35 before any kids are born. And at those ages there is a good chance any kids will have issues from geezer breeding.

I've got news for you: a man of 41 and a woman of 35 are not geezer-breeders, however much you'd like to think they are. I know plenty of couples where they're both in their 40s who have had children, without a problem. I even know one woman of 52 who had a perfectly normal "oops" baby because she thought she was out the other side of menopause.

I do wonder, would this even make the news if she instead decided that she was going to not breed and accept him for who he is? Does such thing even happen?

I'm surprised she didn't oops him. He should have gotten a vasectomy years ago.

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The guy knows that nannies will provide plenty of time away from the kids and he can show up for Kodak moments. What I don’t think he’s prepared for is the personality change that MOO-hood will inevitably bring.

Do you see a $10,000/month child support in the future?

But a 40 year old and 34 year old will likely be at least 41 and 35 before any kids are born. And at those ages there is a good chance any kids will have issues from geezer breeding.

I've got news for you: a man of 41 and a woman of 35 are not geezer-breeders, however much you'd like to think they are. I know plenty of couples where they're both in their 40s who have had children, without a problem. I even know one woman of 52 who had a perfectly normal "oops" baby because she thought she was out the other side of menopause.

The term geezer breeder is subjective and it is a fact that advanced age pregnancy (over age 35) faces increased chance of birth defects, etc. due to age. Could refer to them by their medical term which is either elderly primigravida or elderly multigravida but to me the terms are interchangeable: elderly = geezer = geriatric and breeder = primigravida (first baybee) or multigravida (not first baybee).

There is a definition referred to as AMA or advanced maternal age and it starts at 35. So, there is some news for you, backed by facts. Note there are millions of results for a search on AMA.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/getting-pregnant/in-depth/pregnancy/art-20045756
https://www.marchofdimes.org/complications/pregnancy-after-age-35.aspx
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317861.php
https://www.health.harvard.edu/womens-health/should-my-daughter-have-her-labor-induced

Another one is geriatric pregnancy, again backed by facts and over 7 million search results on google:
https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/geriatric-pregnancy

And two additional terms taught in medical schools, elderly primigravida or elderly multigravida. This one only has around 12K search results:
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/elderly+primigravida
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/03/well/family/good-news-for-the-older-mothers.html
https://www.pregnancycorner.com/getting-pregnant/conceiving-after-35.html

Just becuz something can be done, doesn't mean it should be done.

Now he won't have time for all those sick Make a Wish kids. Sigh.