Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 23, 2019 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,964 |
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Cambion
But at least they won't get autism, right?
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Someone tell me again why this isn't considered neglect or endangerment?
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Re: Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 25, 2019 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,964 |
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On the other hand, there is today something that parents can do to make sure that this sort of tragedy (death by measles or other preventable illness) does not happen to a child of theirs. They can insist that their child is immunized against measles.
It is not yet generally accepted that measles can be a dangerous illness. Believe me, it is. In my opinion parents who now refuse to have their children immunized are putting the lives of those children at risk.
...because so many parents refuse (to vaccinate), either out of obstinacy or ignorance or fear, to allow their children to be immunized, we still have a hundred thousand cases of measles every year. Out of those, more than 10,000 will suffer side effects of one kind or another. At least 10,000 will develop ear or chest infections. About 20 will die.
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Re: Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 27, 2019 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,964 |
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Anti-vax breeders fully reveal the altruism claim for the lie it is. Breeders don't become less selfish when they have kids, they become more selfish, but include their children in their conception of self. Otherwise they'd be worried about the consequences to other children, instead of doggedly sticking to what they feel is best for their own child, damn the consequences to the rest of society.
Re: Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 28, 2019 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1,978 |
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Cambion
There is a virus very similar to polio that's been floating around for the past few months paralyzing kids (and some adults), only unlike polio, there's no vaccine for it.
I don't think a lot of anti-vaxers realize (or care) that the things we vaccinate against can have permanent side effects. I don't get it, you need to have your dogs vaccinated in order for vets to treat them. Why can't doctors just all universally fire any patients that aren't vaccinated? I'm guessing this is because Moos would just not take their kids to the hospital and/or refuse to get them medical treatment if shots were a pre-requisite for care. If it shots were mandatory for school enrollment, Moos would just home-school or un-school them.
Anti-vaxers are a proud and headstrong bunch and I could easily see any one of them telling doctors to let their kids die if the choice was treatment and vaccination or no treatment at all. Then I'm sure there would be threatened lawsuits about how the doctors "let" their dumplings die. Because rules are for everyone else, after all - NOT for mommies and especially not for anti-vax mommies.
The problem is maybe not so much anti-vaccination, but the fact that there are ways for breeders to get around childhood vaccinations. Take away their options - no more exemptions for anything besides legitimate doctor-diagnosed vaccine allergies, no more keeping kids out of school, no neglecting your kid's health to avoid vaccine lectures from doctors. Either you get your kid their shots or you get fined and the kids go to the state, and for good measure, any children you have afterward get taken away too so you don't get a do-over and neglect another child.
I mean they'll find a way around it because that's what breeders do, but at least it won't be easy for them to do it.
Re: Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 28, 2019 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 7,825 |
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From what I saw on the News, the disease is spreading down to Oregon. They're afraid that people who were exposed have gone off to other places, including airports and hospitals. I hope it doesn't, but if it reaches epidemic proportions, the laws about letting people not vax their kids will have to be looked at very seriously. I hope this is the wake up call that these assholes need to realize that they're playing Russian Roulette, not only with their kids lives, but also the general health and safety of the public
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mumofsixbirds
From what I saw on the News, the disease is spreading down to Oregon. They're afraid that people who were exposed have gone off to other places, including airports and hospitals. I hope it doesn't, but if it reaches epidemic proportions, the laws about letting people not vax their kids will have to be looked at very seriously. I hope this is the wake up call that these assholes need to realize that they're playing Russian Roulette, not only with their kids lives, but also the general health and safety of the public.
The sad thing is that dumb people are breeding, and we all know what stupidity does.
Re: Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 29, 2019 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,432 |
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Ketchup
When I lived in Portland, they voted down the fluoridation of water and have apparently done it more than once. When I'd go to the dentist for a routine cleaning I'd be told, "I can tell you're not from here, because of your teeth". I think about that when I think about the anti-vaxxer nonsense in that area.
Re: Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 30, 2019 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 2,363 |
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kittehpeoples
I just heard a new bit of insanity-- some anti-vaxxers claim vaccines can cause, besides autism and a host of other medical conditions, homosexuality and darker-skinned children from lighter-skinned parents. It's a bigotry paradise, apparently.
Re: Public emergency declared in Washington as measles spreads through anti-vax community January 31, 2019 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,964 |
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Cambion
LOLwut
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Also, everyone's so scared of their brats catching autism from vaccines, but then don't parents of autistic kids usually go on about how awesome and more special their kids are compared to non-autistic ones (so denial, in other words)?
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www.boredpanda.com/vaccination-without-mothers-consent/
Meanwhile, this poor kid has some common sense and is diving into law books to figure out how to get vaccinated without parental consent because his parents are anti-vax and he is not. No kid should have to research the law to figure out how to get basic medical care.
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