Breeder privilege during Coronavirus (Parents and Coronavirus)

On today's local news it was mentioned that some schools are closed due to Coronavirus in the US and parents are having to take vacation and sick days to stay home with their sprogs as the taxpayer part time babysitter (school) is closed and there is nothing for them to do, but go home with no one to watch over them.

As a matter of public health, I'd rather the schools be closed. Children are unhygienic beasts and keeping them in a herd is bound to spread the virus faster. Unfortunately I doubt breeders are going to see the enforced closure of schools as a good reason to keep their germ factories at home.

Plus it's not as if only breeders are going to be affected by closures, although they get more chances of it since school closures as well as office closures affect them. Some companies here have already told people who can to work from home, and I'm expecting that by the end of the month we're going to hear of a lot more telling people to stay at home, even if they can't work. In a public health crisis I think the government needs to take action to protect people who will lose income because of it (otherwise, those people are going to be coming into work sick and infecting everyone), and also consider the case of small companies who might be in a dangerous financial situation in the case of a shutdown where workers still have to be paid (as worker's protection laws would require most of Europe).

I don't think it's the schools that would be the biggest cause of concern as it is US employers who punish their employees or fire them for taking sick time off. Someone working a shitty minimum wage job at McDonald's or WalMart develops suspicious symptoms and they go, "Well I might have coronavirus, but I can't afford to be quarantined for two weeks because I'll get fired, so I'm just not gonna say anything."

Not that kids wouldn't heavily contribute to the spread, and closing schools isn't going to do anything either because kids are disgusting feral little beasts that cough/hack/drool/snot/vomit/shit on everything without ever washing their hands and then they go touch everyone and everything else they can. Keeping them home just means that if any of them are sick, they will infect several hundreds of people at the town WalMart when Mommy goes and spends her hard-earned food stamps rather than a few hundred at school.

Also, can someone explain to me why this virus is such a big deal? Is it because it's new? I think the death toll is 3,400 or so worldwide, meanwhile the number of people who died of the flu just in the US last year was over 34,000. Why's everyone shitting their pants over it? Because given those statistics, I'd rather take my chance with the coronavirus.

And then you've got breeders writing articles like this:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/family/parents-toddlers-already-perfectly-trained-21630427

Basically, Duh blows smoke up breeders arses about how they're experts in dealing with coronavirus by sheer dint of having shat a brat or two out and gotten to that Dog-awful toadler stage.

Gotta admit, if anyone has decent immunity from dealing with dirty, sticky, messy, germy crotch goblins, it''s parents - but there's not guarantee.

I think people are getting their tits in a knot because of all the dystopian virus horror movies that have been released in the past decade or two, but I also believe that, while corona isn't as bad as the flu, the media is making people panic unnecessarily for the sake of selling a few more rags.

I posted a link to an article, so this might be a tie in. Apparently the buggers are catching corona, they just are healthier than the adults and have better lungs, at least for the moment.

unknown is them spreading it to more vulnerable older adults.

especially if the buggers are living with the grandparents due to incompetent breeder parent(s)

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.

I was reading a FB post that someone copied today, a bleating parent saying that they need to find a cure for the coronavirus - and the reposter pointing out that she was an antivaxxer. Hilarious. Dumbasses.

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I was reading a FB post that someone copied today, a bleating parent saying that they need to find a cure for the coronavirus - and the reposter pointing out that she was an antivaxxer. Hilarious. Dumbasses.

Anti-vaxxers deserve to lose their children.

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Passive Aggressive
Master Of Anti-brat
Excuses!

I think the school closures are a mixed bag. Kids are germ vectors and keeping them at school keeps it somewhat contained as opposed to free range. But what about the staff and teachers?

I'm close to ground zero for the US breakout. Some concerns I have are: utilities shutting down, lack of infrastructure to transport goods, etc. Perhaps I'm overcautious but I've lived in a country where I had to go without gas for over a month and lots of basics wouldn't be available for weeks or months. I've also lived in an area where a winter storm cut off power for days (for some it was weeks) and I had to call ahead to find out where to obtain gas.

I went to a store last night (actually several) to obtain some staples. Many things were gone including: cold/flu medication, toilet paper, anything disinfectant. And the staff count was noticeably low. And really, who is to blame them? Hardly anyone was out anyways. But I figured it would be better than this weekend.

I didn't see anyone sick out and about. I was really disturbed by a couple who had their infant with them. Infants are high risk because their immune system hasn't developed and you don't bring them out with you at freaking ground zero.

I don't know if my over caution is unfounded or not a this point but it is worth it for me to have some cash, something I can eat for 1 month, extra water and a 2-4 week supply of anything else I will need.

The immune-compromised have reason to be living in fear. The other people I feel bad for are all the people who work in retail or the service industry. Many earn lower wages and are under tremendous pressure to not take a day off work no matter what. And they can't afford a day or more off without pay. And why isn't this an election issue? I rate this as more important than student loan payoff and certainly way more important than any kind of paid famblee leave or free daycare. Why aren't companies required by law to give part-time employees at least 5 paid days off a year and full-time employees at least 10 paid days a year? It won't require a tax paid by individuals, only higher prices at the store.

I'd rather support slightly higher prices at a store and know the staff can take a sick day when they need one. People chose to have famblees and if they can't afford daycare maybe someone is trying to tell them that it isn't the right time to breed. It makes me sick that there is such a bias against the poor in this country and that we have middle class people whining about the length of their mooternity leave or cost of daycare.

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I'd rather support slightly higher prices at a store and know the staff can take a sick day when they need one. People chose to have famblees and if they can't afford daycare maybe someone is trying to tell them that it isn't the right time to breed. It makes me sick that there is such a bias against the poor in this country and that we have middle class people whining about the length of their mooternity leave or cost of daycare.

The fly in this ointment is that many states are eliminating women's ability to plan their families. Abortion is all but gone in some states despite it being 'legal', and women's birth control is being interfered with all up and down the line. Pharmacists are literally denying women their prescriptions for their birth control, and telling them to go have 20 brats. There are states that have only one abortion clinic, and the underground is now in the business of getting abortion pills to women on the QT.

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Excuses!

The HOSPITAL where my Masters Degree holding niece works put out a memo to all employees today. They say if you contract the virus AT WORK (how would they tell?) you may stay home using your sick leave.If you contract it elsewhere, you may not use sick leave and must come to work.A HOSPITAL??? What logic??

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The HOSPITAL where my Masters Degree holding niece works put out a memo to all employees today. They say if you contract the virus AT WORK (how would they tell?) you may stay home using your sick leave.If you contract it elsewhere, you may not use sick leave and must come to work.A HOSPITAL??? What logic??

How is the employee supposed to know where he/she picked up the virus? That doesn't make sense.

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Excuses!

yup! It's jaw dropping "logic" especially when being published by a hospital. And also encouraging/requiring people to come to work WITH the disease known because they may not be able to somehow prove they got it there.

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The HOSPITAL where my Masters Degree holding niece works put out a memo to all employees today. They say if you contract the virus AT WORK (how would they tell?) you may stay home using your sick leave.If you contract it elsewhere, you may not use sick leave and must come to work.A HOSPITAL??? What logic??

How is the employee supposed to know where he/she picked up the virus? That doesn't make sense.

Especially since COVID-19 seems (it's very new; scientists are learning but have really only had three months to work on it) to have a 10-14 day incubation period.

Had an interesting but very short chat with my sister, who's an infectious disease specialist. From what she said, they do know that:

- it's not a new virus at all; lots of common colds are corona viruses. This mutation is just particularly nasty.

- there's a prolonged incubation period, but it's not yet known exactly how much people shed the virus during that time, or whether they're shedding enough to infect others or if they're just shedding dead bits...and thus it's not super clear how infectious people are during incubation.

- a lot of the population can fight it off fine, including children. The elderly and those with compromised immunity are the ones who need to be protected from it.

- besides the usual precautions (hand-washing, covering sneezes/coughs, staying home if you're sick, etc etc), it's not clear what other restrictions or recommendations are universally useful. It's showing up in people who haven't traveled to the "ground zero" locations and don't have any contact with those who have. Travel restrictions, school closures, event cancellations aren't going to make it worse, but also might not help or also might not be necessary (see previous about not everyone being equally vulnerable).

- despite what the current white house occupant might make up on the spot, they're a ways away from immunization or even trials for that. They've had three months. For viral research, that's a blink. There may be some really lucky breakthroughs, but honestly check back in a year. Immunization will not be stopping this outbreak. They don't even know what suppressors will work.

- And what Cambion said about people not being able to take off work is totally right. Dr. RandomSis agrees that draconian attendance policies are going to contribute to the outbreaks. ...on top of infected people not realizing they're even infected.

The US medical system is the best thing that could have happened to this virus. Period.

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Passive Aggressive
Master Of Anti-brat
Excuses!

Why am I not surprised?

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2020/03/08/st-louis-coronavirus-patients-dad-broke-quarantine-for-father-daughter-dance-county-says

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Duh and his family were under quarantine while his adult child got tested for the virus and practiced self-quarantine, but Duh decided he and his dumplings were special and decided to break quarantine to take his younger kid to a daddy-daughter dance.

The adult sibling learned she tested positive for coronavirus, meaning Duh potentially exposed the whole school to the virus so his other kid wouldn't have hurty fee-fees. If Duh and/or his brain-dead famblee continue doing this shit, they might find themselves in court-ordered quarantine. Because as we all know, rules are just playful suggestions to breeders.

followed up by some 50 year old japanese numnut who deliberately went out (he had it) and tried to inflict it on others.

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.

I am familiar with St. Louis and I can advise the place where the Dud lives and dwells (Frontenac, Ladue) and the schools his kids go to (Villa Duschene, Priory) are an indicator that Dud is definitely a 1 percent-er in addition to being a super entitled asshole.

Dud is definitely a 1 percent-er

The bottom or the top?? of the financial or mental end of things?

The Duh has lawyered up now, according to a friend that lives in the area.

I'm starting to have serious doubts about what I'm reading:
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/coronavirus-inslee-announces-new-rules-nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities/XIDPHMLVOJAAREQ5YCL75367PU/

Ten long term care facilities in the Seattle and King County area have residents who tested positive for the virus. And yet only 269 people have it? I'm not doubting the numbers of deaths but I think there are thousands if not tens of thousands who have been exposed at minimum.

If infections were doubling roughly every six days then why aren't there many more cases?

The first case in the area happened Jan 20th (supposedly:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-03-09/how-coronavirus-spread-from-patient-zero-in-seattle). And none of the 60 people he was around have tested positive for it. There is no way I can work out the probability on this. I strongly suspect that the coronavirus has been floating around in the area much longer than 1.5 months and many people have had it and were asymptomatic!

It isn't as if people in long term care facilities are driving all over the place and making others sick. They're stationary, which means the people who work there have likely contaminated thousands of people for the last 45+ days. But, yet, the death count is low.

Of course, tons of hand wringing from the parents continue. I think the crisis here are the people who have died and are very sick from it, not healthy parunts with healthy kids who have a hard time figuring out child care.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/the-coronavirus-will-cause-a-child-care-crisis-in-america/ar-BB110tRc

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Of course, tons of hand wringing from the parents continue. I think the crisis here are the people who have died and are very sick from it, not healthy parunts with healthy kids who have a hard time figuring out child care.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/the-coronavirus-will-cause-a-child-care-crisis-in-america/ar-BB110tRc

I don't give a fuck about the stupid cunts who find themselves with sick brats to care for. I wish them every inconvenience.

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Passive Aggressive
Master Of Anti-brat
Excuses!

What is pissing me off about some people talking about this is "Only the elderly and the immune compromised have to worry." Like they're okay with people in those categories dying, because (a) they aren't old or sick, (b) nobody they care about is old or sick, and (c) they don't give a fuck about anyone else. I've also heard "Fortunately it isn't really affecting children, better old people die than children."

The concern is that the healthcare system will be overloaded. When there's no facilities left to treat patients, people who would have survived with proper medical care are going to die. Even young and healthy people should be worried about the severity of the illness to themselves in such a scenario, even if they are assholes who don't give a fuck about anyone else in the world.

Italy has basically shut down the borders, and still other countries are carrying on with business as usual despite evidence showing that we are all on the same trajectory, but maybe 10 days behind Italy. There is no reason to not already have everyone who can work remotely doing so. The virus isn't going to be stopped but if the spread can be slowed, the healthcare system won't be quite as overwhelmed and more people stand a chance of surviving.

But as always, people who do have the means to prevent the spread are selfish (like that family who refused to self-quarantine), and other people don't have the financial means to do what's best for society.

Unlike Italy, the USA doesn't have a health system to be concerned about. There is no system in charge of minding the health of Americans, just a patchwork of treatment centers that will treat those who can afford to pay. Those without resources will be allowed to die in the street and spread any infection willy nilly.

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Passive Aggressive
Master Of Anti-brat
Excuses!

The one that's killing me is the politicians bleating over how school closing is a big deal because that's where kids are being fed. Like we can't close schools because the schools are literally where the kids eat.

As far as the nursing home, not everyone exposed to a virus will contract it. Virology is a fascinating science. I worked in a doctor's office during a flu epidemic and never got sick. I've never had a cold sore, food poisoning, or herpes.

cfinboston: i drove a school bus for 5 years, including the yearly chicken pox periods. managed to avoid it.

only got it because of some fucking lazy ass mommy who insisted on dragging any sick famblee member around in order to avoid having go cook.

(thanksgiving: she dragged her poor sick husband, who just wanted to stay home and be miserable to my sister in laws house because she didn't want to be arsed cooking. god knows how many got sick because of this cunt, her little turd, and the poor schmuck of a husband who didnt' want to be there in the first place.)

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.