Moo says "No" to being a grandmoo June 26, 2020 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 2,060 |
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But what I do know is that she regretted it her whole life. She told us so. She was bored, unhappy, and frustrated with being a stay-at-home mother.
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“Why do people have kids? What drives you to do it?” I asked him as the two of us sat alone in his hospital room.
“They let you live forever,” he said.
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I could teach my child how to dance merengue, how to blend paint and shade drawings, how to admire art, how to speak their mind, how to host a party, and how to make people laugh.
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“Why do people have kids? What drives you to do it?” I asked him as the two of us sat alone in his hospital room.
“They let you live forever,” he said.
No, no they don't. Everyone's life is finite no matter how often they breed.
Re: Moo says "No" to being a grandmoo June 26, 2020 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,965 |
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I kinda thought that if you admit to fantasizing about ANYTHING else people will jump on you about how daydreams can really get you in trouble when reality hits. If you fantasize about an ex people will be on you about how the person is a douche that cheated or about buying a boat and they are like "Holy Crap, the maintenence costs", but daydream about kids in the future and suddenly that kind of destructive Kodak thinking is a-ok.
Re: Moo says "No" to being a grandmoo June 27, 2020 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,432 |
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EXACTLY! Anybody who claims their kids make them immortal should be asked to name their great-great-grandmother. What was she like? What did she do in her free time? What was her favorite color? Food? Animal?
How many breeders could tell you anything about their ancestors more than a couple of generations back? So what makes them think anyone will remember them after a couple more?
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I remember years ago speaking with a counsellor about being cf and asking her why people were so into breeding at all costs. This woman was rare and would tell me no one should have kids they do not want. She was a social worker and had seen too much. Anyway she admitted that most people fantasize about kids, a father teaching his son to fish, a mother playing dress up with her daughter.
I kinda thought that if you admit to fantasizing about ANYTHING else people will jump on you about how daydreams can really get you in trouble when reality hits. If you fantasize about an ex people will be on you about how the person is a douche that cheated or about buying a boat and they are like "Holy Crap, the maintenence costs", but daydream about kids in the future and suddenly that kind of destructive Kodak thinking is a-ok.
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As far as I'm concerned, there's the realistic (goals) and the unrealistic (daydreams). I don't bother to daydream about anything close to real life since I know it isn't reality. Instead I go for grandiose and enjoy the stories I tell myself. If I think something is realistic, then I want to map out how I'm going to get from here to there, and if it is at all plausible. It seems that's not a common approach.
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I found out there are things called "immersive daydreaming" and "maladaptive daydreaming" - both are essentially ways to escape reality, but maladaptive daydreaming is more of a coping mechanism for a shite life and is considered a psychological disorder. I think I often do something that falls in between the two.
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But I think rosy daydreams about breeding are ones that should absolutely be dashed because people will follow through with those daydreams expecting this idyllic, uplifting experience and being wholly disappointed, bored, or even angered by the reality of making children. And this shit will have an impact on the child because if Moo and/or Duh lose interest, their parenting will suffer and then you wind up with a fucked-up neglected kid.
I wonder how many breeders engage in maladaptive daydreaming. I also imagine that very, very little thought goes into reproducing and breeders just kind of play it all by ear, which is probably why most of them are miserable sons of bitches that have horrible kids.
Re: Moo says "No" to being a grandmoo June 29, 2020 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,708 |
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at the end it looks like the poster has drunk the proverbial kool aid. whY? because of all the phony feel good kodak images in her imagination.
you that rabid, baby sit your friends kids and see if your phony fantasy lives up to what you dreamt
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time for the kodak images to set in........
In that moment, I could envision all the things she had taught me that I could pass onto another little human of my own. I could teach my child how to dance merengue, how to blend paint and shade drawings, how to admire art, how to speak their mind, how to host a party, and how to make people laugh. Out of the blue, I could remember the good times we’d had together that I had so often selectively forgotten when I thought abstractly about motherhood. I wanted to tell stories about her to this new, unformed person. That thing, the inexplicable drive that everyone else seemed to always have in them to procreate, was born in me right then.
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As far as I'm concerned, there's the realistic (goals) and the unrealistic (daydreams). I don't bother to daydream about anything close to real life since I know it isn't reality. Instead I go for grandiose and enjoy the stories I tell myself. If I think something is realistic, then I want to map out how I'm going to get from here to there, and if it is at all plausible. It seems that's not a common approach.
I found out there are things called "immersive daydreaming" and "maladaptive daydreaming" - both are essentially ways to escape reality, but maladaptive daydreaming is more of a coping mechanism for a shite life and is considered a psychological disorder. I think I often do something that falls in between the two.
Personally, I've found that daydreaming about an ideal real life is too depressing because it involves things I will never have and/or stuff I know will never realistically happen. I've also found I can't make myself have really wild daydreams, for some reason - like they HAVE to be grounded in reality for me.
But I found that I also daydream about all these characters I make up in my head with lives that could easily be real and I put them in "episodes" with situations where they always come out on top because 1) that so rarely happens in real life and it provides me with good feelings, and 2) because I feel a desire to ensure my creations are taken care of because they're mine and I don't want anything bad to happen to them. I realize how nuts that sounds, but it gets me through the day a lot and it's fun!
It's a nice source of free and secret personal comfort, but the only bad thing is when I do this shit in the car and go on auto-pilot and don't realize I'm doing 25 over the speed limit. Oops! Not that I have any issues with driving fast, but I don't feel like getting more points on my license.
But I think rosy daydreams about breeding are ones that should absolutely be dashed because people will follow through with those daydreams expecting this idyllic, uplifting experience and being wholly disappointed, bored, or even angered by the reality of making children. And this shit will have an impact on the child because if Moo and/or Duh lose interest, their parenting will suffer and then you wind up with a fucked-up neglected kid.
I wonder how many breeders engage in maladaptive daydreaming. I also imagine that very, very little thought goes into reproducing and breeders just kind of play it all by ear, which is probably why most of them are miserable sons of bitches that have horrible kids.
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The tragic betrayal of women that feminism imbued in the 60s and 70s still haunts women today. Being selfish and self centered will lead to a lonely old age devoid of those intrinsic treasures a child's hand made Christmas ornament or gift can bring.
I watch this endless search for meaning in the lives of my peers - women who chose not to have children because it would deny them their full potential. Truth - having children is where you reach your fullest potential.
Re: Moo says "No" to being a grandmoo June 29, 2020 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
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freya
Just shocked this one isn't rambling about how children will pay social security for the child-free one day. That is one of their favorite go-tos when threatened with the fact that reality outside what they experience exists.
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Just shocked this one isn't rambling about how children will pay social security for the child-free one day. That is one of their favorite go-tos when threatened with the fact that reality outside what they experience exists.
Most children will never earn enough to pay taxes, and a large portion of them will not even be sentient because of birth defects and disease.
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Also, I have never wanted anything from a kid. Know why? One, I guarantee if they do something like that, it's because they were coerced into doing it for a school art project or some shit. Second of all, kids make shitty things. I know it's because they're kids and they're learning, but it doesn't change the fact that the stuff they make SUCKS. So no, I don't want some hunk of shit a kid made out of Elmer's glue and cotton balls that I have to pretend to like.
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And why does everyone assume that old age is synonymous with loneliness if you have no kids? Consider how many seniors have been abandoned in nursing homes or are fortunate enough to live independently whose kids NEVER see them? There are plenty of old parents who are lonely and there are plenty of unchilded old people who are living happy, full lives. Having brats is not an insurance policy against being alone.
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obviously, no kids here, but I wonder how many parents, once the kids are out, downsize to a place so small there is no comfortable way to allow their knocked up offspring back? good way of giving them the boot. but then, these breeders would stuff their 5 brats into a carboard box and live there
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