Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 08, 2020 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,708 |
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I don't begrudge people medical care, but it is becoming a problem
I hope Biden can help with it.
I don't have much faith in either side. In my opinion, the only thing that Democrats and Republicans are good for is to turn people onto each other and fight over politics while politicians do what they want and how they want it.
Let us not forget that people went to jail for smoking a joint under both parties. To me, it is irrelevant who paid lip service to what. What matters is that both parties have little support for the people.
We have started 2 wars underRetardBush, did Obama actually do anything to end those? Not really. I don't have any reason to believe that Biden is going to do a whole lot of good stuff.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 12, 2020 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,735 |
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 13, 2020 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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selidororous
Am I the only person who thinks health insurance should not cover sprogging?
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 13, 2020 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,708 |
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selidororous
Am I the only person who thinks health insurance should not cover sprogging?
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 14, 2020 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,367 |
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selidororous
Am I the only person who thinks health insurance should not cover sprogging?
Being that health insurance does not cover elective stuff, such as face lifts, boob jobs, etc, I personally don't see why sprogging is covered at all.
I do support 100% tax payer funded coverage for abortions and birth control.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 14, 2020 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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selidororous
Am I the only person who thinks health insurance should not cover sprogging?
Being that health insurance does not cover elective stuff, such as face lifts, boob jobs, etc, I personally don't see why sprogging is covered at all.
I do support 100% tax payer funded coverage for abortions and birth control.
In 1978 Congress required employers who provided medical insurance to include maternity benefits for employees. Costs were getting out of hand even then. Insurers likewise had viewed pregnancy and birth as elective, and most did not cover those.
There's a lot of griping now because many insurance plans exclude sprogging expenses for adult dependents. That means these parents who are keeping their adult kids on their plans till age 26. When those kids have kids, the plans don't pay for that.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 14, 2020 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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freya
I think there could be a Cadillac plan that could cover sprogging and other non-cosmetic but optional services. The pool (people paying into it) would be 100% voluntary. Let the overall risk determine the cost. Addiction programs (which are incredibly expensive and have a very low rate of success) could also be in this insurance.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 14, 2020 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 14, 2020 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 9,964 |
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selidororous
Am I the only person who thinks health insurance should not cover sprogging?
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 15, 2020 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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craftyzits
I personally believe low income parents aren't fit parent therefore their kids should be removed.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 15, 2020 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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selidororous
Am I the only person who thinks health insurance should not cover sprogging?
Absolutely not. Until insurance covers cosmetic/elective surgery, then it shouldn't cover breeding expenses either. Having brats is optional and voluntary, much like getting breast implants and tummy tucks, so it should be treated as elective to breed too. Childbirth comes with risks, but hey, so doesn't surgery.
Man I bet insurance premiums would hit the fucking floor if nobody covered pregnancy and birth-related costs, and it might make breeders think longer than two seconds about whether or not they should be crapping out kids in the first place. If they can't afford ten grand to make the kid, then they can't afford to keep the kid either. This doesn't even factor in the possibility of extended hospital stays, invasive treatments, life-saving measures for heifer and/or calf, life support for micro-preemies, emergency surgeries, and so forth. Again, calving is a gamble and if the breeders' pocketbooks were at a greater risk, they might start to think that termination is a much wiser choice.
But then things like birth control, sterilization and abortion are all also technically elective reproductive procedures/medications as well, so not covering pignancy costs might mean that nobody would be able to cover anti-pignancy costs either just to keep it fair. Sterilization, abortion and birth control are rarely considered to be medically necessary, so they could be on the chopping block too if insurance providers decided that reproductive care outside of standard exams is ineligible for coverage. After all, nobody needs to have sex, so sexual healthcare may be deemed "unnecessary" too.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 15, 2020 | Registered: 19 years ago Posts: 9,196 |
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Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 16, 2020 | Registered: 19 years ago Posts: 9,196 |
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Go to some other message boards, even on Quora and ask why people have children they cannot afford and the answer is "You WILL have sex and your sex drive WILL take over and your sex drive does not care about how poor you are. Kind of like the body snatchers take over and WILL make people have sex. I guess some of us are sex mad Jim Bobs and people who use their brains don' t exist.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 16, 2020 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
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bell_flower
Perhaps I truly do have a functioning cerebral cortex. No matter how hot a guy was, or how horny I was, even the thought of a possible pregnancy killed my libido DEAD. When I was on the Pill I NEVER missed a single pill, nor did I ever "forget" to put my diaphragm in, nor did I "forget" to use it properly, and that includes applying more spermicide.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 16, 2020 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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mr. neptune
After all, nobody needs to have sex, so sexual healthcare may be deemed "unnecessary" too.
Go to some other message boards, even on Quora and ask why people have children they cannot afford and the answer is "You WILL have sex and your sex drive WILL take over and your sex drive does not care about how poor you are. Kind of like the body snatchers take over and WILL make people have sex. I guess some of us are sex mad Jim Bobs and people who use their brains don' t exist.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 16, 2020 | Registered: 3 years ago Posts: 129 |
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craftyzits
I personally believe low income parents aren't fit parent therefore their kids should be removed.
I tend to agree with you there. In mother nature, only the best survive. If we take that principle to humans, having low income is being weak financially. Do weak procreate in mother nature? Not usually.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 16, 2020 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 3,576 |
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Unfortunately, governments like strength in numbers, so they reward the parents instead of charging them with child neglect.
This is especially so with the GOP who love to send those children off to fight the endless wars they so love.
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Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 17, 2020 | Registered: 18 years ago Posts: 4,087 |
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Techie
One thing that is worth noting is that if someone is super poor and they do want to breed, USA is a good place to be. Compared to 80% of countries out there, USA does take good care of poor breeders. Just tax funded programs alone are better than many other countries. Add non-profits that are voluntary and I think USA is hard to beat.
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Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 17, 2020 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 3,708 |
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kman
There's a lot of griping now because many insurance plans exclude sprogging expenses for adult dependents. That means these parents who are keeping their adult kids on their plans till age 26. When those kids have kids, the plans don't pay for that.
Re: The costs of giving birth in America December 17, 2020 | Registered: 8 years ago Posts: 353 |
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bell_flower
It does not matter if you are white, black, purple, etc. If you cannot afford a kid, you shouldn't have one. Where is the "think of the Childrun" battle cry for this topic?