CF YouTuber Awareness plus some personal schadenfreude

Just wanted to put this here so we are aware there is a CF YouTuber, putting the good word out there for us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9g3QskSikI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spYAztcOhLc

She goes on the I regret having children FB page, and goes thru all the kids-are-a-joy scams, and how there are different types of "hard" in life but other types of "hard" are actually more rewarding than moohood. Having kids=terrible lives.

I know we contradict ourselves on here, we didnt want the grunt work of Parunthood and it was too difficult for us and we knew it, decided against it rather that do it and then whine and complain, but we also claim it is not hard....and it isnt, its time-consuming, tedious, etc., but not technically hard day to day (kinda like housework/maintenance--not hard, but it keeps ya busy), and we give parunthood more thought they they do and how to do it right vs the lazy or illogical ways. It seems hard bcuz you just dont want to do it, as much as you LUV your kids to death. But gosh the stories on this YT, they are more heart-breakingly sad with each passing word. Gawd, we really all dodged a bullet on this page. Cheers to us!


Then a random CF schadenfreude moment I had this week...everytime I go out w/ a parunt, I have one, even tho many pals' kids are way into adulthood now. My male friend was lamenting how his GF babysits her grandson ONCE A MONTH (she is not lamenting this, she likely is happy to do so once a month to spend some time w/ the kid), and this babysitting goes on becuz her adult son and wife play dungeons and dragons with their friends over. He thought this was just soooo ridiculous. Hey, I think it's a bit ridic from my POV, but I did stick up for them...I said would it make you feel any different about it if they went to dinner and a movie/play, something like that? It is something they enjoy doing, once in awhile just like a date nite out on the town. At this point, IDK it was only once a month, how he was going on about it I thought it was much more often. Anyway, when I asked what was the big deal, he said, with some venom, "Hey, I had kids and I had to Suck. It. Up!" I starting chuckling, and tried to muster up the kindest way to say to him....I touched him on the shoulder and said "As a CF person, I thank you for letting me know the truth, that having kids isn't some overwhelming joy Ive been missing, and just something that people have to "Suck Up". I'm glad to know it." I think he realized what he said when I said this, but he actually did not walk it back like I expected. He went on to say "I couldnt go out and do stuff I wanted when the kids were little" He says this w/ so much angst and his youngest is 30 now. And, he resents a parent having one nite a month to themselves. My goodness. I have had to give up luxury vacations becuz my dogs have gotten deathly ill (and ended up dying later from it) and I never felt I was 'sucking it up' to the point that I would discuss it w/ venom 20 yrs later. Maybe it goes to show they don't luv their kids but just feel obligation, and nothing more.

Here's another YTr that discusses the contradictory childed peeps who understand why you don't want kyds at your CF wedding but resent it at the same time.


childfree weddings are totally insulting?

This literal Karen thinks childfree weddings are totally insulting...and I think she's totally stupid. Come on this journey with me as we read the article "Why Childfree Weddings are Totally Insulting".

(IDK why but the link wont work, and just copy/pasting it for some reason squeezes an emoji in the middle of the text, which is weird. I edited three times to no avail. So It is Childfree Kimberly Are CF weddings insulting...you'll have to do a you tube search if you want to see it for the fun explanations. Sorry, I have no idea why this is happening and wont accept the link)

https://tinyurl.com/3uknr28b

Here's another AITA vid that discusses a breeder MIL who asks for the money they spent on the couple's rehearsal dinner to be returned to her, since they are not having kyds, and also got double snipped, so it is for sure they will not change their minds. Oh my, family is just so precious.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8QIZ3srXpI

Childfree Kimberly rocks!! I'm loving how there is so much more unapologetic CF content out there!

This guy is wonderful in this vid. Nice to see a man, a POC, and today's youth calmly look at the CF situation and explain it. Other CF vids, while really just trying to explain, end up sounding a bit ranty, I'm sure it turns some people off. I get where women are coming from tho, they get the pressure more than a young man.

Also, glad for so much regret being posted online, especially about everyday stuff with kyds

I really wonder if many many parunts are ever having a good life. I know breeders will insist that everything is not about having fun etc and I agree w/ them there, but if you have a kyd, or god forbid more than one, and for at least 20-25 yrs your life is the opposite of living, and IMO you really dont get it back very well becuz you alienated all your old friends, whether or not they were suffering w/ their own kids

I'm glad this is out there becuz so many just dont see it, or think they are above it and it won't happen to them. That is very rare. And, the deniers of all ages are always loud and indignant. I know my MIL was once, at dinner when I spoke about the suffering of moohood. She just made a flat statement as "no it isn't". I dropped it. But u can tell she was pissed I spoke of the subject. But I have heard the men (who married into the fam) in the fam, say they could do without the little kyd years, I said under my breath to hub,"I told ya", wonder if anyone heard it. But for some reason, MIL didnt do her chiming in w/ them that they were wrong, and it is not suffering. Nonetheless, my MIL is always happy the kyds are gone after a stay with her. And, no one finds this ironic, but me.

Anyway, here's the vid, I find it so delightful, I'm gonna watch again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ2mNT9Yd4k

Check out YT couple 2Hearts1Seoul. They're a Canadian/Korean couple living in Seoul and they've mentioned in several videos that they do not want children and will not be having them.

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Then a random CF schadenfreude moment I had this week...everytime I go out w/ a parunt, I have one, even tho many pals' kids are way into adulthood now. My male friend was lamenting how his GF babysits her grandson ONCE A MONTH (she is not lamenting this, she likely is happy to do so once a month to spend some time w/ the kid), and this babysitting goes on becuz her adult son and wife play dungeons and dragons with their friends over. He thought this was just soooo ridiculous. Hey, I think it's a bit ridic from my POV, but I did stick up for them...I said would it make you feel any different about it if they went to dinner and a movie/play, something like that? It is something they enjoy doing, once in awhile just like a date nite out on the town. At this point, IDK it was only once a month, how he was going on about it I thought it was much more often. Anyway, when I asked what was the big deal, he said, with some venom, "Hey, I had kids and I had to Suck. It. Up!" I starting chuckling, and tried to muster up the kindest way to say to him....I touched him on the shoulder and said "As a CF person, I thank you for letting me know the truth, that having kids isn't some overwhelming joy Ive been missing, and just something that people have to "Suck Up". I'm glad to know it." I think he realized what he said when I said this, but he actually did not walk it back like I expected. He went on to say "I couldnt go out and do stuff I wanted when the kids were little" He says this w/ so much angst and his youngest is 30 now. And, he resents a parent having one nite a month to themselves. My goodness. I have had to give up luxury vacations becuz my dogs have gotten deathly ill (and ended up dying later from it) and I never felt I was 'sucking it up' to the point that I would discuss it w/ venom 20 yrs later. Maybe it goes to show they don't luv their kids but just feel obligation, and nothing more.

I just came here to say, that I have seen this childed friend of mine maybe 4 more times this year, and on various topics, he again has said to me "I already put my time in and paid my dues" I dont rub it in, but he musta really enjoyed parunthood, and he only had them several times a month. IDK how you admit to a CF you had to suck it up, at the same time, sometimes saying there are rewards, he never repeats these rewards to me.


He also was bickering w/ me once that if you get sick and old, maybe you should have kids to take care of you instead of having a partner in life. Again, I dont rub it in, but my counter argument is there's no guarantees in life, and whose to say the kids will b in a position to take care of you, they could live out of state, marry a dufus and\or chose a job that makes no money to support you, and be otherwise unable to take care of u. Well, that is EXACTLY the life he would be living as of now if he got sick and old, bcz all three of his daughters are very bad at Adulting and have done all these things while breeding too, and 2 live out of state. He basically half supports 2 even tho he's getting close to 70. I wouldnt be so small to remind him of this. But it goes to show you should really think about what you say to other ppl about their choices trying to be a superior just becuz you bred.

Yup, or your kid could have a disability or addiction in which case you end up taking care of them until you're six feet under. They could also wind up hating you and going no contact, or getting knocked up and bringing home grandloaves for you to care for every day. Nope, not worth it. The risks far outweigh anything.

It's funny you say that, bcz his GF of 8 yrs or so, has an adult daughter who is a down and out alcoholic. Daughter has moved in w/ this GF who is counting the days to retirement and has the grandkids every other weekend. His GF has to be there if the alcoholic gets visitation. That is why she moved her into her house, so she wouldn't totally lose any custody/visitation. My friend is actually living all the exceptions we can think of of who will take care of you when you're old and sick. His answer will be no one bcz all the grown up adults can't adult very well what so ever.

As I said, I won't be so small to remind him of all this when he challenged me on the topic previously. When he had an accident recently, it was his GF that took care of him, not his daughters, incl the one in the basement.

there is a small restaurant in kings park called Red. (side: it is across the street from Relish which is a nice place to eat as well... but a tad more 'famblee' accomodating but not to the extent of being over run with the buggers).

they are not family friendly. they don't ban them but don't encourage it either. it is too small for this. so they only have 2 high chairs. period. maybe a booster seat but I don't recall seeing one.

what I find interesting is the few times people come in with goddam babies or toadlers; within 5 minutes the little pulers are having some melt down or other. 90% of the time. there was another time with some that were a bit older, one was 4 and the other close to 3 and the stupid rivalry that was going on was asinine. maybe not from the pulers POV but from me I watched the show until I left I don't know if the parents were aware or just chose to ignore it. One of the few times I don't remember the details of what they were doing exactly but I have. each was trying to upstage the other competing for attention. which blows a hole in the stupid breeder rationale for multiple breedings to provide siblings for the others. I really think in a year or two they (the kids) would be content trying to kill each other

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.

I love the word "Puler". It's like Ferris Puler's Day off. "Puler? Puler? Puler?" Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

I don't know if the word 'puler' exists in real english vernacular but it would be a form of 'pule' which is whine and 'puler' which would mean one who whines. I think that is how the english logic works...when it works. one could have fun with the grammar

two cents ¢¢

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.