Finding/Starting a career at 30?
Posted by Snowe
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Re: Finding/Starting a career at 30? April 26, 2015 |
Aw, you're never too old for school! Fuck, for the first year I was in grad school, I was the youngest person out of everyone in my program at like 23 or 24. My classmates ranged in age from 30 to 70. All I'll say about college, should you decide to pursue it, do not take out private loans if you need to do financial aid. Federal loans are okay, but private loans will wreck your shit forever. There's also the option of auditing classes at a reduced rate per credit so you can cherry-pick what you want to learn without the threat of failing grades (since homework is usually optional) and without all the bullshit required filler classes. If I had the money, I wouldn't mind auditing the graphic novel making class at my last school, but since the fuckers charge the same amount per credit for auditing classes as they do for normal classes, I just can't. I'd have to take out more loans.
But a career that's on the low-stress side is a tough call. Desk jobs tend to not be too bad, especially if you don't have to interact with customers face-to-face. Of course, even a job that's supposed to be not too stressful can be made very stressful by the wrong kind of manager. I know it's not a career, but cold calling is the easiest, most boring job you can probably ever have. A retard could do it. The pay sucks, but it is easy to do.
I used to do that shit, but it wasn't the job that made me stressed out - it was my cunt of a boss. She'd forbid me from doing anything but talking on the phones and I was going nuts from boredom on the clock because cold calling is not a job that requires undivided attention. Every day, I'd go in and think, "I wonder what she's gonna bitch at me about today." I got so stressed that I was going in to work every morning nauseous and I was worried it was morning sickness. If that cunt had just left me the hell alone, I might have worked there longer.
And I understand the feeling of trying new things because of a fear of failure. I'm the same way. I'm willing to try new things that would have minor consequences if I don't like it or fuck it up, but when it comes to work? I'd rather stick to what I know or what I think/know I can do. Unfortunately, a lot of careers do require some kind of education because many employers like seeing a degree on your resume, but then they turn around and won't hire you because your degree means they have to pay you more. Because America.
It's a tough call to make if you're on the outside looking in. Jobs that seem not too stressful could easily be very trying because we as onlookers don't know what the job entails. The position of librarian might seem easy-peasy, but I'm sure it's not as much of a gravy job as people think.
I looked at this list and many of these jobs are not stress-free.
http://lonerwolf.com/jobs-for-introverts/
I apologize if I couldn't provide much in terms of advice or guidance. I'm kind of in the same boat you are, only I never really had a career to change from.
I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do, but alas, my lack of self-esteem means I look at EVERY job and go, "I can't do that, I'll screw it up." Even with stuff I can do. I've done a lot of art for folks who say they love it, but I can look at it and think, "This sucks, I can find ten things wrong with it, this person is a moron for giving me money for this hot mess, I wouldn't pay for this."
But a career that's on the low-stress side is a tough call. Desk jobs tend to not be too bad, especially if you don't have to interact with customers face-to-face. Of course, even a job that's supposed to be not too stressful can be made very stressful by the wrong kind of manager. I know it's not a career, but cold calling is the easiest, most boring job you can probably ever have. A retard could do it. The pay sucks, but it is easy to do.
I used to do that shit, but it wasn't the job that made me stressed out - it was my cunt of a boss. She'd forbid me from doing anything but talking on the phones and I was going nuts from boredom on the clock because cold calling is not a job that requires undivided attention. Every day, I'd go in and think, "I wonder what she's gonna bitch at me about today." I got so stressed that I was going in to work every morning nauseous and I was worried it was morning sickness. If that cunt had just left me the hell alone, I might have worked there longer.
And I understand the feeling of trying new things because of a fear of failure. I'm the same way. I'm willing to try new things that would have minor consequences if I don't like it or fuck it up, but when it comes to work? I'd rather stick to what I know or what I think/know I can do. Unfortunately, a lot of careers do require some kind of education because many employers like seeing a degree on your resume, but then they turn around and won't hire you because your degree means they have to pay you more. Because America.
It's a tough call to make if you're on the outside looking in. Jobs that seem not too stressful could easily be very trying because we as onlookers don't know what the job entails. The position of librarian might seem easy-peasy, but I'm sure it's not as much of a gravy job as people think.
I looked at this list and many of these jobs are not stress-free.
http://lonerwolf.com/jobs-for-introverts/
I apologize if I couldn't provide much in terms of advice or guidance. I'm kind of in the same boat you are, only I never really had a career to change from.
I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do, but alas, my lack of self-esteem means I look at EVERY job and go, "I can't do that, I'll screw it up." Even with stuff I can do. I've done a lot of art for folks who say they love it, but I can look at it and think, "This sucks, I can find ten things wrong with it, this person is a moron for giving me money for this hot mess, I wouldn't pay for this."|
Re: Finding/Starting a career at 30? May 08, 2015 |
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I am pretty confident I can rock this interview. Fingers crossed!
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Re: Finding/Starting a career at 30? July 27, 2015 |
Warning massive ramble ahead, I'm kinda fried at the moment :drool
@exile - I feel your pain, job hunting is an utterly soul destroying activity at times. Over the years, in my search for a better job I've had hundreds of rejections and no replys. It may not necessarily be you personally that is not getting you the job (if that makes sense). Competition for jobs is crazy these days and many times places have already earmarked whom they want to fill the role and the whole application process is just a formality. Try not to take it personally, though that is easier said than done. The jobs I've managed to land recently have been because I either know the manager or know someone who knows the manager and is willing to do me a favor. Have you any relatives or friends who could put in a good word for you at some place?
@snowe - I was in a similar place to you just over a year ago and I'm nearly 30. Me and my OH were both in dead end jobs working at an office and in the evenings I was trying to build a freelance career in illustration and beggining to get some success. We were both sick of our going nowhere life which wasn't really funding our rather basic (by choice) lifestyle. I was comming to the realisation that although I loved art and was good at it, it was not the career for me. In the end I got offered redundancy from my job and we decided that we had had enough and wanted to make a change. In the end we decided to both go to university and study for completely new careers, we planned out our finanaces in advance and figured we could just scrape by for three years if we really pared down our life.
So, I'm due to start my second year in September and so far it's been doable. It's been effing hard work and not to mention scary as hell! My old job and my art especially, defined me as person (even though I wasn't happy with it) and tearing down that person and that life and attempting to build a new one is frankly terrifying to me. Also having no life what so ever has been grating even for an introvert like me. At the moment during the summer I'm working three jobs to try and save some money so that we have enough money to live off for the next uni year (as is the OH) as well as gaining experience in the field I want to work in. So it's pretty tiring. Not to whinge, this is what I signed up for, I'm just telling it as it is.
Anyyyywayyyy----
I guess what I'm trying to say is that 30 is not too late to change career (most of the people on my course are older than me or the same age and in the same situation) but that it isn't easy and times will be tough. But if you think you can do it, go for it! I keep telling myself that I'd be forever regretful/resentful if I didn't do this. I would love to say that it's worth it in the end but I'm not there yet. However I'm happy to lend you guys support and any advice when I can give it. Good luck to all of you in your endevors
Also this experience has re-enforced my decision not to have kids! I couldn't have imagined trying to do all this with sprogs in tow. ****shudder*****
@exile - I feel your pain, job hunting is an utterly soul destroying activity at times. Over the years, in my search for a better job I've had hundreds of rejections and no replys. It may not necessarily be you personally that is not getting you the job (if that makes sense). Competition for jobs is crazy these days and many times places have already earmarked whom they want to fill the role and the whole application process is just a formality. Try not to take it personally, though that is easier said than done. The jobs I've managed to land recently have been because I either know the manager or know someone who knows the manager and is willing to do me a favor. Have you any relatives or friends who could put in a good word for you at some place?
@snowe - I was in a similar place to you just over a year ago and I'm nearly 30. Me and my OH were both in dead end jobs working at an office and in the evenings I was trying to build a freelance career in illustration and beggining to get some success. We were both sick of our going nowhere life which wasn't really funding our rather basic (by choice) lifestyle. I was comming to the realisation that although I loved art and was good at it, it was not the career for me. In the end I got offered redundancy from my job and we decided that we had had enough and wanted to make a change. In the end we decided to both go to university and study for completely new careers, we planned out our finanaces in advance and figured we could just scrape by for three years if we really pared down our life.
So, I'm due to start my second year in September and so far it's been doable. It's been effing hard work and not to mention scary as hell! My old job and my art especially, defined me as person (even though I wasn't happy with it) and tearing down that person and that life and attempting to build a new one is frankly terrifying to me. Also having no life what so ever has been grating even for an introvert like me. At the moment during the summer I'm working three jobs to try and save some money so that we have enough money to live off for the next uni year (as is the OH) as well as gaining experience in the field I want to work in. So it's pretty tiring. Not to whinge, this is what I signed up for, I'm just telling it as it is.
Anyyyywayyyy----
I guess what I'm trying to say is that 30 is not too late to change career (most of the people on my course are older than me or the same age and in the same situation) but that it isn't easy and times will be tough. But if you think you can do it, go for it! I keep telling myself that I'd be forever regretful/resentful if I didn't do this. I would love to say that it's worth it in the end but I'm not there yet. However I'm happy to lend you guys support and any advice when I can give it. Good luck to all of you in your endevors
Also this experience has re-enforced my decision not to have kids! I couldn't have imagined trying to do all this with sprogs in tow. ****shudder*****
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Re: Finding/Starting a career at 30? July 28, 2015 |
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Warning massive ramble ahead, I'm kinda fried at the moment :drool
@exile - I feel your pain, job hunting is an utterly soul destroying activity at times. Over the years, in my search for a better job I've had hundreds of rejections and no replys. It may not necessarily be you personally that is not getting you the job (if that makes sense). Competition for jobs is crazy these days and many times places have already earmarked whom they want to fill the role and the whole application process is just a formality. Try not to take it personally, though that is easier said than done. The jobs I've managed to land recently have been because I either know the manager or know someone who knows the manager and is willing to do me a favor. Have you any relatives or friends who could put in a good word for you at some place?
No I do get that some places just interview everyone as a formality, I actually had one place tell me that, I was so pissed after that interview, wasting my fuel, time and effort for a formality to someone else. It is all about who you know not what you know these days, which is such bull crap, my partner works for my last work place that shafted me, so he's a dead end, his family live to far south to be practical recommendations for where we live, my family and freinds look
down to me as if I'm scum because I won't pretend to like my dad in public regardless of how much of a prick he is for the humiliating way he fired me for somthing he did wrong, I can't use my 10 year most successful employment as a reference which is helping to srew me over, but i should act like nothings wrong because that's what good little daughters should do, and then theirs the fact I don't want babys, so I'm god awful in their eyes.
And my previous coworkers mostly have all worked for and been fired by my dad, so they hate me by association. So no, I don't have any good recommendation people, or socail/family support network, which stands out like a red flag I'm sure. The stupid thing is, I'm not good at interviews, I'm good at the job, if someone actually hired me they'd find that out and never want me to leave, but formailtys. You know I had one place tell my employment officer, that they don't hire women over size 12, even though the skinny little things have no work ethic, bitch about everything being to hard and they have a high staff turnover.
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Re: Finding/Starting a career at 30? July 28, 2015 |
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exile
No I do get that some places just interview everyone as a formality, I actually had one place tell me that, I was so pissed after that interview, wasting my fuel, time and effort for a formality to someone else.
Wow that sucks and they actually had the nerve to say it. In the UK I think it's a requirement to go through a recruitment process with outside advertising even though the job is going to go to an internal candidate. It's bloody stupid. I don't think companies realise the impact that this can have financially and mentally on people, especially the unemployed. Either that or they don't care. I'm sorry that you have nobody backing you up, that must be pretty hard, especially as you say that you do have a good employment history and a work ethic
Also, fuck these guys with a rusty chainsaw:
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. You know I had one place tell my employment officer, that they don't hire women over size 12, even though the skinny little things have no work ethic, bitch about everything being to hard and they have a high staff turnover.
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Re: Finding/Starting a career at 30? July 28, 2015 |
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chicken
Wow that sucks and they actually had the nerve to say it. In the UK I think it's a requirement to go through a recruitment process with outside advertising even though the job is going to go to an internal candidate. It's bloody stupid. I don't think companies realise the impact that this can have financially and mentally on people, especially the unemployed. Either that or they don't care. I'm sorry that you have nobody backing you up, that must be pretty hard, especially as you say that you do have a good employment history and good work ethic
I think the one that told me it was just a formality, had already picked their person, and didn't want their time wasted by people calling back about if they got the job, so they just flat linned the interview. It is silly how much they waste on something they didn't need, but its to look fair, and I know of a few people who've nearly lost their jobs trying to move on, because of the stupid multi interview, plus tests over a week, if they hadn't got the new jobs, they sure as hell didn't have their old ones to go back to. That kind of messing around can ruin lives.
I remember hearing some woman say she interviewed as 3 males and 3 females, because the company was an equal opportunity company, but only the men were hired, great, such diversity, might as well tell them their wasting their time that could be spent interviewing elsewhere.
Yeah it has been pretty hard with no support network, when it really gets tough, and I lose hope and become depressed, but I can't rough it out with freinds or family like others do, so insted, back to the job search I go. It's been 2yrs, eventually some one will give me a go, I just hate the endless thoughts and feelings of (what did I do wrong, what was it this time that caused me not to get it?)
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