Why no mention of the "Elephant In The Room"? June 10, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,861 |
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Re: Why no mention of the "Elephant In The Room"? June 13, 2017 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,861 |
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yurble
Ablation is generally used to treat extremely heavy periods. I'm not sure it's an appropriate treatment for people who are in the normal range, but it's a moot point because even women who need it have difficulty accessing the treatment due to the overwhelming natalism of the medical profession.
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Re: Why no mention of the "Elephant In The Room"? June 14, 2017 | Registered: 14 years ago Posts: 12,457 |
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mr. neptune
Yurble, do you suppose that the doctors are so breederific because of the training conditions I mention above? Since I do not "love people" I do not think I could be a doctor and I would not live through the training. Why would anyone do it?
Re: Why no mention of the "Elephant In The Room"? June 23, 2017 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 805 |
Well, I've read some books on marine mammals, one of them was about manatees, the other on dugongs (different author.) Both mentioned overpopulation as one of the big threats on their populations. Problem is, scientists won't state it outright, in public, for fear of having their funding pulled and being castigated. Plus, you know the arch-conservatives will spin this as 'being against/hating humans' and will happily cite all of the previous failed predictions of population doom, and use it to rip their opponents apart.Quote
mr. neptune
Or as Jo from Supernanny would say, Family Planning!
This summer I took a job as a groundskeeper at the zoo in my city and we have a new section called the Jungle Odyssey. All around the facility as signs that give tips on how to help protect the environment and help protect endangered species such as don't use palm oil, turn the bedroom light off, don't use as much water, and recycle, but never any mention of what could help the world the most: STOP HAVING KIDS!!?
I think the main risk of a message this forthright is that it puts people on the defensive (and may risk too many people choosing to ignore it, along with legions of parents boycotting your zoo for this 'offensive' message) I might put it this way...Quote
mr. neptune
If I were in charge, for example, of any museum, park, or facility that does environmental education might be something like this for example: "This urinal saves 10,000 gallons of water a year. You can help by using a condom, they're free near the sink." Or in the ladies room, "we use low flush toilets in this rest room, you can help by talking to your doctor about family planning. Also, talk to your doctor about an operation so you can cut down the use of disposable products for women."
Unfortunately the job of 'Zoo Keeper' is highly competitive. It requires schooling, and the openings can be kind of hard to come by. Plus the pay kind of sucks right now.Quote
mr. neptune
As for kids, they might want to know too, for example: "Your parents had you, but many grownups don't have kids. Often zookeepers have to travel to far away parts of the world to work in animals, and it can be hard to do that with kids. Stay in school and get good grades so you can travel the world."
It's because it's still encouraged, damn the consequences. Politicians still need those future low level wage slaves and ignorant serfs to manipulate/boss around, so they won't say a thing. And when the world's a miserable overcrowded shithole hard in the throes of The Sixth Great Extinction, these rich politicians will be quite dead by then.Quote
mr. neptune
At the zoo, I see so many couples with multiple kids, often one walking, one in a stroller, one in one of those baby in front carriers on the dad and then, the wife is pregnant. I feel hopeless with all we do to protect the environment when people are humping each other, letting the kids happen.
Re: Why no mention of the "Elephant In The Room"? July 12, 2017 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 439 |
Re: Why no mention of the "Elephant In The Room"? July 13, 2017 | Registered: 12 years ago Posts: 805 |
I've heard somewhere that people aren't bothered if they are made to give up something occasionally (which is why little peacemeal things like that are easy to do. But ask them to do it everyday, and most people will balk. Toilets and vehicles are peripheral items that don't really require a big change in behavior. But personal choices require a person to actively think about what they are giving up and to do it daily, and most people will balk hard at doing it, especially if it impinges on 'convenience.'Quote
bop
For the same reason no one ever talks about the dietary elephant in the room. The amount of havoc wrecked by factory-style animal agriculture is breathtaking, but I've never seen it discussed at a zoo, museum, or any other mainstream ecological institution. Asking people to buy a different type of toilet or vehicle is far less scary than talking to them seriously about their life choices, even though in the long run those itty-bitty changes really mean little to nothing.