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Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab

Posted by toraneko 
Re: Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab
April 28, 2021
“ Speaking of "Fair". Have you seen the CARES act deal? Those who took from retirement accounts to make ends meet during pandemic, they have to pay tax on all of that.”

I’m not familiar with all of the CARES act, but here’s an interesting factoid that I accidentally discovered: The CARES act waived the RMD last year and there was NO PENALTY for not taking an RMD in 2020 due to COVID. So that means people that do not need the money could just leave it in. Odd isn't it?
Re: Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab
April 28, 2021
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Freya
The push for student loan forgiveness seems to also be related to breeder incentives because people are postponing/not having brats because they have too much debt and oh nooeeees.

They used to say that sex sells. I say maybe. Breeding sells much better. All that politician ever has to do is say that someone wants to breed but is low on funds, and all the stops get pulled. All the dams get opened up.

Student loan forgiveness is a huge F-U to those who worked 2 jobs to pay off theirs. Or to those who now work at a crappy job because they didn't go to college because they refused to borrow. People will get screwed twice. Once for being dumb and paying what they owed. Second time by paying higher taxes for having politicians buying votes with tax dollars. Student loan forgiveness is awesome for financial institutions that hold debt. It is also awesome for those who owe because unlike in the past, where forgiven amount was taxed, recent change in laws makes forgiven amount tax free. In contrast, those who took out money from their retirement accounts to survive during pandemic, they have to pay full tax. Savers are losers, borrowers are winners.

When people spit out a kid, they essentially borrow about 200K, payable on an 18 year note. Baloon payments maybe necessary in addition. So these people, technically, are borrowers. In contrast, CF people are savers. They did not borrow. They saved and they spent wisely. They though they were being responsible. It seems to me that life is just a lottery. One can do whatever they want and as long as their numbers are the ones that are picked, they are the winner. In this case, numbers for breeders were picked. Savers are losers, again.

I often wonder, what is really right and what is really wrong? Why having kids that one cannot afford is wrong? Government seems to always pay. Government provided health coverage for low income folks is way better than for those who purchased theirs though their employer. Are people who are paying into the system are like really not doing their research? Or are they simply in a position where going the other route is simply not possible? If a person always gets rewarded for something like stealing, is stealing wrong? Not if their jury is a bunch of thieves.
Re: Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab
April 28, 2021
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bell_flower
“ Speaking of "Fair". Have you seen the CARES act deal? Those who took from retirement accounts to make ends meet during pandemic, they have to pay tax on all of that.”

I’m not familiar with all of the CARES act, but here’s an interesting factoid that I accidentally discovered: The CARES act waived the RMD last year and there was NO PENALTY for not taking an RMD in 2020 due to COVID. So that means people that do not need the money could just leave it in. Odd isn't it?

Maybe it was a way to reduce taxes or maybe make someone eligible for stimulus? RMD is an income since it only applies to tax deferred accounts. Being able to not have RMD in 2020 could be enough to put someone under the cutoff income level. Or maybe they simply said that let's not tax at lower rate now but will tax at a higher rate later, since taxes are likely to go up.
Re: Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab
April 29, 2021
I keep hearing about how more people than ever are unchilded, either by choice or by chance. If that is true and the breeders keep getting more tax breaks there could be a backlash at some point. At least I hope so.
Re: Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab
April 29, 2021
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ondinette
I keep hearing about how more people than ever are unchilded, either by choice or by chance. If that is true and the breeders keep getting more tax breaks there could be a backlash at some point. At least I hope so.

The tax breaks are a means of hooking adults into giving up their lives. I, for one, would definitely pass.

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Re: Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab
May 02, 2021
The tax breaks being proposed for universal brat care are attractive to people who don't want to raise their kids.

Adding two years of additional brat care means new infrastructure every where. It also means someone has to pay for that shit. And breeders may think they are getting a good deal but they will paying for it for the rest of their lives and they will pay more in taxes than they will receive in benefits if their lifespan is normal and they have less than 7 kids under three if the law passes. Those two years they are working (instead of staying at home) will mean they will pay more taxes for a longer period of time. Breeders also think a tax refund is great (and not a interest free loan to the government) and 1/3 of the brats are unplanned. It is a permanent tax increase proposal to pay for two years of brat care for people too stupid to work out their own day care arrangements. It is rewarding the stupid.

It is a raw deal and I hope it doesn't pass but politicians only care about votes and stupid breeders never think anything through, they just breed and react to everything like jackasses. They never act.

And the government is just like a casino. Dumb breeders go to the government casinos thinking they will win. The only people at casinos who win are the owners and all they care about is the incoming operating costs! Everyone else pays. They can't teach finance in schools because a financially educated population is a threat to the government.

We have bridges and roads in danger of collapsing in most states and masses of people trying to recover from a pandemic, a tourism and airline industry in peril, new breeder benefits shouldn't even be a consideration.

And the universal healthcare BS? The COVID immunization is a microcosm of what to expect with universal healthcare. The COVID immunization required over 12 hours of me busting my ass, clicking on links claiming there are available appointments and filling out long assed questionnaires to repeatedly find no available appointments and more than once all appointments were booked out for two months. The only question they should have been asking is if I was at least 16, since that was the only requirement when I was eligible. And I still have one more shot to go, so there is more time. It doesn't matter a whit that I have relatives with long term COVID, I was put in the same risk group as children. For the majority of children COVID is asymptomatic or at least no worse than having flu for a few days. For people over 30 it is typically 3-4 weeks of being sick and a much higher risk for hospitalization and long term symptoms.

The counties touting all those unfilled appointments in the news? I tried this approach for the vocal one that keeps proclaiming to the news that they have availability in my state. Once you filled out yet another dumb questionnaire to find you are only eligible if you are a resident of specific regions of the county! There is a mass site in a nearby city where over 3 million people reside within a short distance, so expect to spend days there and camp out to get immunized and find a parking spot. There are also a few mass sites in remote parts of the state I live in but all are three or more hours away and a six plus hour drive is a big risk because a shot isn't guaranteed and it requires at least one return visit to obtain the second shot. The walk-in clinic I went to warned us to not arrive before 6 a.m. in the morning because they have attendants who are monitoring the parking lot. The clinic opens at 8 a.m.

Expect to be put in lines according to the government "guidelines" and the exact same crap with universal healthcare if it becomes a thing. Also expect lots of people to die while waiting or to leave the country to get healthcare. And before long you'll be able to purchase private insurance in addition to paying taxes for crap universal healthcare. If you want decent care expect to pay for it twice.
Re: Once again, a big FUCK YOU to the people picking up the tab
May 03, 2021
I love it when the brats start aging out of the free money at tax time. They constantly whine to me about why they suddenly have to start paying tax instead of receiving thousands of undeserved dollars every year. Once there are no dependents left, if they make ANY money at all, they pay out the nose just like I have been doing my whole life.
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