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"To Young Men Only" (Classic fundie speech re:Masturbation, fatherhood, and homosexuality)

Posted by kidlesskim 
http://www.lds-mormon.com/only.shtmlTo Young Men Only (Here's the whole thing)

by
Boyd K. Packer
General Conference Priesthood Session, October 2, 1976

".....I wish to discuss a subject that fathers should discuss with their sons. Because some young men do not have fathers and because some fathers (and some bishops) do not know how to proceed, I approach a very personal subject, one that is important to every young man.

You have been given a mortal body with which to experience earth life. Through it you will be tested. Your body is the instrument of your mind and the foundation of your character. It has within it powers which, if properly used, will contribute greatly to your exaltation. If you use this gift worthily, it will serve your throughout all eternity. .....................

Within your body you have the power of creation. You will one day find a mate and desire greatly to express fully your love with her. The righteous expression of this physical love in marriage is approved of the Lord. She then may conceive and give birth to a boy or a girl, a baby of whom you will be the father.

This is a very sacred power. The Lord has commanded that you use it only with one to whom you are legally and lawfully wedded. He has decreed serious penalties indeed for the misuse of it. ...........

......... This physical power will influence you emotionally and spiritually as well. It begins to shape and fit you to look, and feel, and to be what you need to be as a father. Ambition, courage, physical and emotional and spiritual strength become part of you because you are a man. You become very interested in young women --and want to be with them. This is as it should be.

During that waiting, what do you do with theses desires? My boy, you are to control them. You are forbidden to use them now in order that you may use them with worthiness and virtue and fullness of joy at the proper time in life.

The "your dick is a little factory" story

I wish to explain something that will help you understand your young manhood and help you develop self-control. When this power begins to form, it might be likened to having a little factory in your body, one designed to produce the product that can generate life.

This little factory moves quietly into operation as a normal and expected pattern of growth and begins to produce the lifegiving substance. It will do so perhaps as long as you live. It works very slowly. That is the way it should be. For the most part, unless you tamper with it, you will hardly be aware that it is working at all.

As you move closer to manhood, this little factory will sometimes produce an oversupply of this substance. The Lord has provided a way for that to be released. It will happen without any help or without any resistance from you. Perhaps, one night you will have a dream. In the course of it the release valve that controls the factory will open and release all that is excess.

The factory and automatic release work on their own schedule. The Lord intended it to be that way. It is to regulate itself. This will not happen very often. You may go a longer period of time, and there will be no need for this to occur. When it does, you should not feel guilty. It is the nature of young manhood and is part of becoming a man.

There is; however, something you should not do. Sometimes a young man does not understand. Perhaps he is encouraged by unwise or unworthy companions to tamper with that factory. He might fondle himself and open that release valve. This you shouldn't do, for if you do that, the little factory will speed up. You will then be tempted again and again to release it. You can quickly be subjected to a habit, one that is not worthy, one that will leave you feeling depressed and feeling guilty. Resist that temptation. Do not be guilty of tampering or playing with this sacred power of creation. Keep it in reserve for the time when it can be righteously employed.

One of you, perhaps, has not fully understood until now. Perhaps your father did not talk to you. You may already have been guilty of tampering with these powers. You may even have developed a habit. What do you do then? ..........

There are ways to conquer such a habit. First of all, you must leave that factory alone long enough for it to slow down. Resisting is not easy. It will take weeks, even months. But you can get the little factory slowed back to where it should be.


Suggestions for slowing the "little factory" down
I have other suggestions........ Stay in control. Condition your body to do the will of your mind. To do this you must keep your mind on worthy thoughts. Divert your thoughts from things that lead your into mischief. Vigorous physical exercise helps young men in many ways. You are most vulnerable when you are idle or when you are discouraged. This is the time to be on guard.

I know a way to keep your thoughts worthy.......... It has helped me, and I explained it to on one occasion in a general conference talk. Let me repeat it for you. ............The first one has to do with music............

What you need to do at a time like that, when the stage of your mind is commandeered by the imps of unclean thinking, whether they be gray ones that seem almost clean or the filthy ones which leave no room for doubt? If you can control you thoughts, you can overcome habits, even degrading personal habits. If you can learn to master them, you will have a happy life.

Sacred Music is a real ball buster, it seems
This is what I would teach you. Choose from among the sacred music of the Church a favorite hymn, one with words that are uplifting and music that is reverent, one that makes you feel something akin to inspiration. Go over it in your mid carefully. Memorize it. Even though you have had no musical training, you can think through a hymn. Now, use this hymn as the place for your thoughts to go. Make it your emergency channel. Whenever you find theses shady actors have slipped from the sidelines of your thinking onto the stage of your mid, put on this record, as it were. As the music begins and the words form in your thoughts, the unworthy ones will slip shamefully away from your mid. Because it is uplifting and clean, the baser thoughts will disappear. For while virtue, by choice, will not associate with filth, evil cannot tolerate the presence of light.

In due time you will find yourself, on occasion, humming the music inwardly. As you retrace your thoughts, you discover some influence from the world about you encouraged an unworthy thought to move on stage in your mind, and the music almost automatically began.

Once you learn to clear the stage of your mind of unworthy thoughts, keep it busy with learning worthwhile things. Change your environment so that you have things about you that will inspire good and uplifting thoughts. Keep busy with things that are righteous.

Praying and not eating helps too
Another thing will help both to prevent and to overcome such habits. At times of special temptation skip a meal or two. We call that fasting, you know. It has a powerful effect upon you physically. It diverts some of that physical energy to more ordinary needs. It tapers desire and reduces the temptation. Fasting will help you greatly. In the scriptures, fasting and prayer are generally mentioned together. Prayer is a powerful instrument to bless young men. If a missionary, for instance, indulges in these unworthy practices, the Spirit of the Lord will leave him. When he is prayerful and will fast, the Spirit of the Lord sustains him. He soon develops a manly restraint and worthiness.

Resist those temptations. Do not tamper with your body. If you have already, cease to do it --now. Put it away and overcome it. The signal of worthy manhood is self-control.

Better save it for marriage, or you will be sorry
This power is ordained for the begetting of life and as a binding tie in the marriage covenant. It is not to be misused. It is not to be use prematurely. It is to be known between husband and wife and in no other way. I you misuse it, you will be sorry.

Here comes the homosexual WARNING

Now a warning! I am hesitant to even mention it, for it is not pleasant. It must be labeled as major transgression. But I will speak plainly. There are some circumstances in which young men may be tempted to handle one another, to have contact with one another physically in unusual ways. Latter-day Saint young men are not to do this.

Sometimes this begins in a moment of idle foolishness, when boys are just playing around. But it is not foolishness. It is remarkably dangerous. Such practices, however tempting, are perversion. When a young man is finding his way into manhood, such experiences can misdirect his normal desires and pervert him not only physically but emotionally and spiritually as well.

It was intended that we use this power only with our partner in marriage. I repeat, very plainly, physical mischief with another man is forbidden. It is forbidden by the Lord.

There are some men who entice young men to join them in these immoral acts. If you are ever approached to participate in anything like that, it is time to vigorously resist.


Here he condones violence/SMACK the guy who makes you think these thoughts, AS IF, it's his fault!
While I was in a mission on one occasion, a missionary said he had something to confess. I was very worried because he just could not get himself to tell me what he had done.

After patient encouragement he finally blurted out, "I hit my companion."

"Oh, is that all," I said in great relief.

"But I floored him," he said.

After learning a little more, my response was "Well, thanks. Somebody had to do it, and it wouldn't be well for a General Authority to solve the problem that way"

I am not recommending that course to you, but I am not omitting it. You must protect yourself.

You are NOT born gay!
There is a falsehood that some are born with an attraction to their own kind, with nothing they can do about it. They are just "that way" and can only yield to those desires. That is a malicious and destructive lie. While it is a convincing idea to some, it is of the devil. No one is locked into that kind of life. From our premortal life we were directed into a physical body. There is no mismatching of bodies and spirits. Boys are to become men --masculine, manly men --ultimately to become husbands and fathers. No one is predestined to a perverted use of these powers.

Even those who have been drawn into wicked practices and are bound by almost unyielding habits can escape. If one of you seems trapped in that, escape. Go to your father or bishop, please. Your parents, your bishop, the servants of the Lord, the angels of heaven and the Lord himself will help redeem your from it.

Young Latter-day Saint men, do not tamper with these powers, neither with yourself alone nor with one of your own kind. Never let anyone handle you or touch those very personal parts of your body which are an essential link in the ongoing of creation.

It is normal and proper for a young man to become interested in young women, to begin to date, eventually to pair up. We encourage that, but be careful. Keep your relationships with young women pure and chaste. Reserve those life-giving powers for marriage.

The little factory is ultimately, the holy-sacred life giving sperm
Then you can enter into the new and everlasting covenant. You and your sweetheart will be sealed together for time and for all eternity. These sacred life-giving powers will then be released for your use. They will become a binding tie in your marriage. Through them you will become a father.

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Wow, all this exhortation to control yourself and act in a way that is ostensibly "natural."
ROFLMAO!

Wouldn't they be shocked to know that my husband has, as he describes it, "wiped entire civilizations off my chest with a dirty sweat sock."
So....
Anorexic, prone to outbursts of humming and violent paranoia, and all because they can't have a wank.

Good plan religious nutters. :crz
waving hellolarious
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I just can't stop laughing. That's pure comedy gold.
Is this shit for real? This is some of the funniest stuff I have seen.

(And no woman wants a little factory...bring on a Boeing! waving hellolarious)

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From a bottle cap message on a Magic Hat #9 beer: Condoms Prevent Minivans
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I want to pick up a bus full of unruly kids and feed them gummi bears and crack, then turn them loose in Hobby Lobby to ransack the place. They will all be wearing T shirts that say "You Could Have Prevented This."
LOL! What is this crock of shit? waving hellolarious
It's the Mormon Church, a source of pure comedy gold.

Check out www.exmormon.org for more stories of fucked-up lives.
Recent evidence suggests that porn increases the quantity of sperm. So does seeing other men. I wonder what they'd say to that?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/25/bad-science-pornography-ivf-nhs
"The factory and automatic release work on their own schedule. The Lord intended it to be that way. It is to regulate itself. This will not happen very often. You may go a longer period of time, and there will be no need for this to occur. When it does, you should not feel guilty. It is the nature of young manhood and is part of becoming a man. So, God sanctions and approves of a wet dream.

There is; however, something you should not do. Sometimes a young man does not understand. Perhaps he is encouraged by unwise or unworthy companions to tamper with that factory. He might fondle himself and open that release valve. This you shouldn't do, for if you do that, the little factory will speed up. You will then be tempted again and again to release it. You can quickly be subjected to a habit, one that is not worthy, one that will leave you feeling depressed and feeling guilty. Resist that temptation. Do not be guilty of tampering or playing with this sacred power of creation. Keep it in reserve for the time when it can be righteously employed."But, purposely "tampering with the factory" and "releasing the valve" is a sin..


waving hellolarious

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Hm, maybe the young men and their other young men friends can have a Kick Each Other In The Nuts competition, whoever gives up first loses! That ought to help.
Wow! I am SO GLAD I read this! Now I know what's right and wrong; I should stop eating and hope endlessly for wet dreams. I'm so glad these people have their imaginary sky-friend to tell the world how these things are supposed to work. Science and obvious, genuine fact have nothing on them! This really is a priceless article. I thought I was going to pass out laughing!
So basically leave the little factory's safety valve alone, and hope you don't go Chernobyl in physics class or a bouncy school bus.....waving hellolarious

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From a bottle cap message on a Magic Hat #9 beer: Condoms Prevent Minivans
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I want to pick up a bus full of unruly kids and feed them gummi bears and crack, then turn them loose in Hobby Lobby to ransack the place. They will all be wearing T shirts that say "You Could Have Prevented This."
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navi8orgirl
So basically leave the little factory's safety valve alone, and hope you don't go Chernobyl in physics class or a bouncy school bus.....waving hellolarious

waving hellolarious

Duck and cover!
I'm registered, I just don't post often enough to remember my login...

I was raised mormon, I'm out now since a long time ago.
They are damned serious here. Kids are sent to the bishop's office twice a year starting at age 12 and asked various questions. Believe in god? Prophet? Tithing? ...do you masturbate?
Not fucking kidding. I was asked this myself 2x year until I escaped my parents.

I'm female, btw, so I didn't get this little doozy of a pamphlet, just all the unofficial crap for girls.

If a girl should french kiss or "pet" she would be compared to a licked cupcake. Who else wants a cupcake someone has licked the frosting of?
Give it up, go all the way? Then compared to a batch of cookies with just a pinch of dog doo mixed in. Looks and smells nice, mostly, but poison.

And then there is the rape victim blaming. Girls are responsible for male urges, don't you know? Modesty!
Here's a great page about victim blaming in the mormon church:
Http://www.i4m.com/think/sexuality/mormon_sex_purity.htm
Better hold it in until you find the perfect princess to fill her up with live baybees.

eye rolling smiley
What they need is a bit of this.

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"The death of creativity is a pram in the hallway"
- Cyril Connolly
Best get all the fundies off the innerwebs


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Best get all the fundies off the innerwebs

Indeed, it would be better for everyone.

By the way, you'd best not be masturbating right now, young man! bouncing and laughing

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"The secret of dealing successfully with a child is not to be its parent." -- Mel Lazarus
"Women who miscalculate are called mothers." -- Abigail Van Buren
"Better to be deprived of food for three days, than tea for one." -- Chinese proverb
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Best get all the fundies off the innerwebs

Indeed, it would be better for everyone.

By the way, you'd best not be masturbating right now, young man! bouncing and laughing

That's after Bratfree ...
"Young men, give not into temptation of the burly arms of another man - hold on to that bleachy, delicious life-giving sperm. And when you touch yourself, the saints cry. Good night and may God bless."
"This physical power will influence you emotionally and spiritually as well. It begins to shape and fit you to look, and feel, and to be what you need to be as a father. Ambition, courage, physical and emotional and spiritual strength become part of you because you are a man. You become very interested in young women --and want to be with them. This is as it should be."




I like it how here he is equating an adolescent boy's proverbial hard on as a "physical power" that will fulfil his future emotional and spiritual needs to become a father. I am quite certain that the 12-18 y/o boys who were in this audience completely comprehended this and immediately discontinued releasing the valves on their little factories.Duh with bratsd

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
I'm still giggling over someone named "Packer" lecturing on being gay ....

Ol' Boyd K. meets a nice girl named Miss Fudge and they marry in the oh-so-holy mormon church. Her parents sadly have no sons to carry on the famblee name, so they hyphenate!
Just more ways for the Mormons to create more white babies. eye rolling smiley



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