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Should drug addicts be sterilized?

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Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 19, 2010
Hi all. I've been lurking on here for a couple of years but I'm feeling outgoing today.
Sorry if this has been posted already..

Paying Addicts to Be Sterilized

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An American charity that pays drug addicts to get sterilized has expanded its operation into Great Britain, and while it has so far paid only one British man to undergo the procedure, it has triggered a storm of criticism.


Barbara Harris, the founder and head of Project Prevention, shrugs off the criticism of her group, which has paid 3,600 American drug addicts $300 each to get sterilized or undergo other long-term birth control procedures.

"I really don't understand controversy or people who oppose what we do," Harris said. "I think a lot of people should realize they're never going to be good parents, and never have children."

"If I had enough money, there wouldn't be any pregnancies for drug addicts," she said.

So far, the program has had a modest start in Britain. Harris paid a Leicester man £200, about $314, to have a vasectomy in September. The man, identified only as John, told the BBC the money influenced his decision to undergo the procedure.

"It was something that I'd been thinking about for a long time, and something I wanted to do. I just hadn't got around to it," he said.

Harris said, however, that Project Prevention has more than 100 people on a waiting list. She's waiting to get her international nonprofit set up so she can start paying them, and also hopes to hire a British staff member soon.


Harris' work has been controversial.

"It's exploiting people," said Gill Nowland, the chief executive of a drug rehabilitation home for women and children called One25. "The women we work with, due to the drug addictions, are not in sound minds to make such life-changing decisions."

One25 is one of many organizations that have spoken out against Harris' nonprofit. While Nowland supports long-term birth control, she believes sterilization is a step too far.

Like many, she also criticized Harris' cash incentive for addicts. "They're going to see that money as drugs. ... That money will go straight into the pockets of drug dealers, pimps and controlling men."

One former British drug addict, who wished to keep her name private, said when she heard about Harris' program she became angry. The woman got pregnant while using crack and heroin, and her now 5-month-old daughter is healthy and thriving.

"It's saying that they can't change their lives, they can't be anything other than a drug addict," the woman said. "If you say drug addicts shouldn't be parents, maybe sick people shouldn't be parents, maybe poor people shouldn't be parents."

But Harris says she's just out to help children. Since quitting her 20-year-plus job as a waitress at an International House of Pancakes and adopting four children from a drug-addicted parent, Harris has dedicated her life to preventing pregnancy in drug addicts.

]Harris makes it clear that she's not forcing anyone to get sterilized, and everyone who's opted for sterilization in Project Prevention has already had children. Harris is happy if people choose long-term birth control options like IUD or Implanon. But she says if people want to be sterilized, it's an acceptable choice. In the past, she's had women call her complaining that they've been denied sterilization because of their young age.


"If your doctor refuses to do that, then I think they should pay child support," Harris said.


In the United States, Harris says she's worked with several government agencies to help spread the word of her program. No such support has turned up in the United Kingdom, but she does have about 50 volunteers ready to go. She said that even though government officials haven't voiced their approval, she knows they're thinking it.

"I really feel they're probably closet cheerleaders," she said.

Basically this woman's organization is offering money to drug addicts in exchange for their sterilization. It's kind of a touchy subject with people since some see it as a form of restraint on personal freedom (I don't!).

Besides, the program is VOLUNTARY. I could see that some addicts would be so desperate for a fix that they would get fixed for the money. But who are we kidding--drug addicts should not be procreating.

I noticed that she herself has adopted several children from a drug addict, that really proves to me that she's proactive for her cause and not a sterilizing Nazi as some comments state.
Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 19, 2010
Personally I don't think they should be paying the addicts to get sterilized. We can have all the lofty ideas we want, but we all know what that money is going to be used for. If that charity really wants to get support and make a difference offer that money incentive to anyone. Hell, just offer free sterilization and watch the line form.

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Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
I personally think it's a good idea...if they want to blow the money on more drugs, then fine. If they want to dig themselves deeper into an early grave, then fine. They won't be making any more children addicted to drugs at birth, though. I think the organization should cover the costs of the sterilization and cough up the $300, though - because that measly amount won't pay for a tubal ligation and there will be no profit incentive for the women.

If she were holding down junkies and sterilizing them against their will...even if they deserved it, then it might be bad. But they are paying people to undergo sterilization - money or not, it's still an option and not a requirement. Fuck, I'd pretend to be an addict if it meant it'd help me get sterilized - I wouldn't even ask for the money.

You can't expect people who shouldn't spawn to give up their fertility for nothing - even if they pickle themselves in substances, they'll still want to make some more retarded, disabled baybees for bigger welfare checks or just want to hang on to their right as a human to fuck and make children. I know it's eugenics - making it so sick/disturbed/worthless/etc. people don't breed, but I bet you anything the people bitching about how bad this organization is won't ever even entertain the thought of adopting a drug-damaged child some junkie-whore had taken from her when she was trying to sell it for crack in a parking lot.
Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
I believe in mandatory sterilization for ALL people after two kyds. However, since that isn't going to happen, If there are people out there willing to donate money to pay the greedy druggies who are hungry for their next fix, then more power to them. Maybe it will cut down on the number of baybees born to addicts who are usually gonna be born fucked up anyway and be a drain on society, like their moos. This has been tried and ridiculed in the past and probably will be again because EVERYONE has the right to spawn. Whether it is bad for the kyd in every way imaginable, not to mention just one more kyd for society to pay for and endure until it dies, is of no concern to the right to lifers cult.

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Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
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kidlesskim
I believe in mandatory sterilization for ALL people after two kyds. However, since that isn't going to happen, If there are people out there willing to donate money to pay the greedy druggies who are hungry for their next fix, then more power to them. Maybe it will cut down on the number of baybees born to addicts who are usually gonna be born fucked up anyway and be a drain on society, like their moos. This has been tried and ridiculed in the past and probably will be again because EVERYONE has the right to spawn. Whether it is bad for the kyd in every way imaginable, not to mention just one more kyd for society to pay for and endure until it dies, is of no concern to the right to lifers cult.

I'm in favor of the non-murdering kind of eugenics, so my answer should be pretty obvious. I would require mandatory parenting licenses to prevent people who are completely incompetent from breeding.

However, like Kim, I'm also in favor of mandatory sterilization for everyone, although I would opt for after 1 child. The world is seriously overpopulated, and even at 1 child for every 2 people the population would continue to grow for about 50 years because humans don't just spawn and then die. If only competent people reproduced, and only one child at that, the world would be a lot better off.
Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
Short answer, yes.

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Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
I think a hell of a lot of people should be sterilized, especially those who request it but their doctors refuse it.
Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
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ShimmyMuse
I think a hell of a lot of people should be sterilized, especially those who request it but their doctors refuse it.

That is a good point.

JD
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Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
Hell yes!
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Re: Should drug addicts be sterilized?
October 20, 2010
"If your doctor refuses to do that, then I think they should pay child support," Harris said.

That's right!
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