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More Magazine
November 01, 2010
I was traveling last week and stopped to pick up a magazine I picked up More and in this magazine was a great article on being CF. I could not find the article on line, but it is the magazine with Jodi Foster on the cover. It has me hooked.

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Re: More Magazine
November 01, 2010
http://www.more.com/2050/24655-childless-by-regret-free-choice

Found it.

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Re: More Magazine
November 01, 2010
This stood out to me:

Elinor Burkett encountered somewhat less bonhomie 12 years ago when she began the research that ultimately grew into her book The Baby Boon: How Family-Friendly America Cheats the Childless. Hoping to include some insights from Betty Friedan, she phoned the feminist icon, who, Burkett reports in her book, “listened silently for the first 45 seconds,” then berated her about the importance of supporting “the great majority of women [who] have children.” And then she hung up.

“She was angry,” Burkett says now, via e-mail. “For the most part, [Friedan and other] women’s-movement leaders accepted as fact that women will be mothers . . . and all too many seem to react with hostility to any suggestion that we need to create a society in which women’s choices about parenting are fully respected and supported, as if even bringing up the issue constitutes a threat to their attempts to gain more benefits for mothers.”

This may have been a necessary strategy for feminists, says Elaine Tyler May, a professor of history and American studies at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis and the author of Barren in the Promised Land: Childless Americans and the Pursuit of Happiness. “I think because the feminist movement took such a beating for being ‘antifamily,’ feminist leaders strategically may not have been as vocal on that issue,” May says. “Childlessness is obviously a major piece of reproductive choice . . . [But] you don’t want to spend a lot of your political capital in ways that would harm your movement more broadly.”


Even the feminists are against us!
Re: More Magazine
November 01, 2010
Liked the article; thanks for sharing, Annie.
Re: More Magazine
November 01, 2010
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Miss_Hannigan
This stood out to me:

Elinor Burkett encountered somewhat less bonhomie 12 years ago when she began the research that ultimately grew into her book The Baby Boon: How Family-Friendly America Cheats the Childless. Hoping to include some insights from Betty Friedan, she phoned the feminist icon, who, Burkett reports in her book, “listened silently for the first 45 seconds,” then berated her about the importance of supporting “the great majority of women [who] have children.” And then she hung up.

“She was angry,” Burkett says now, via e-mail. “For the most part, [Friedan and other] women’s-movement leaders accepted as fact that women will be mothers . . . and all too many seem to react with hostility to any suggestion that we need to create a society in which women’s choices about parenting are fully respected and supported, as if even bringing up the issue constitutes a threat to their attempts to gain more benefits for mothers.”

This may have been a necessary strategy for feminists, says Elaine Tyler May, a professor of history and American studies at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis and the author of Barren in the Promised Land: Childless Americans and the Pursuit of Happiness. “I think because the feminist movement took such a beating for being ‘antifamily,’ feminist leaders strategically may not have been as vocal on that issue,” May says. “Childlessness is obviously a major piece of reproductive choice . . . [But] you don’t want to spend a lot of your political capital in ways that would harm your movement more broadly.”


Even the feminists are against us!

Holy crap breederific batman.doh face To them, are only worth is our wombs, once again. eye rolling smiley angry flipping off the world 'fail' on flames



lab mom
Re: More Magazine
November 01, 2010
Should have said: I liked the author's point of view, but have a real problem with feminists throwing CF women under the bus.
Re: More Magazine
November 02, 2010
Didn't like the article. More "oh, but I loooove children, oooh my neices and nephews, I'm a teacher and love kids. And at the end of course the obligatory, "she dotes on her cats".
All this softening to make it seem like we are not the spawn of Satan himself. Then the one who is in denial about aging saying they don't think about it, hinting to the nieces and nephews that they are future caregivers.... Please, stop. Interview some intelligent engaging people with interesting lives who don't mention their child relatives or children they work with or talk about their pets being their world and who have made plans for their own aging.

I didn't expect the feminists to be on board. They are interested in a socialist nanny state society in which mothers and children are supported by the government. They know CF people would not like this therefore we are the enemy.
Re: More Magazine
November 02, 2010
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I didn't expect the feminists to be on board. They are interested in a socialist nanny state society in which mothers and children are supported by the government.

Exactly this, and also special mommy perks in the workplace such as "flexible" scheduling, not losing their place in line for promotions after mooternity leave, PAID mooternity leave, etc. etc. etc.

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Re: More Magazine
November 02, 2010
I thought feminism was about women having choices in what we wanted to do with our lives, and including whether or not to marry or have children. I also thought that was equal opportunity came equal responsibility, i.e. not special treatment for just being women.

I guess I was wrong.

Tatayanna K.
Re: More Magazine
November 02, 2010
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Liked the article; thanks for sharing, Annie.

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Should have said: I liked the author's point of view, but have a real problem with feminists throwing CF women under the bus.

You're off the hook. winking smiley

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blondie
I didn't expect the feminists to be on board. They are interested in a socialist nanny state society in which mothers and children are supported by the government.[/quote

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Exactly this, and also special mommy perks in the workplace such as "flexible" scheduling, not losing their place in line for promotions after mooternity leave, PAID mooternity leave, etc. etc. etc.

Yeah, they are too coddled by society to loose their pampered status and position. Entitled loosers. eye rolling smiley angry flipping off the world 'fail' on flames

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Tatayanna K.
I thought feminism was about women having choices in what we wanted to do with our lives, and including whether or not to marry or have children. I also thought that was equal opportunity came equal responsibility, i.e. not special treatment for just being women.

I guess I was wrong.

Tatayanna K.

I guess I'm wrong as well. Who knew? confused smiley eye rolling smiley



lab mom
Re: More Magazine
November 02, 2010
I want ONE mainstream article that pulls no punches, and interviews a woman we can identify with. But before that ever happens, culture needs to be softened up with apologetic pieces like the one above.
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