Results of Gentle Discipline-What to DO When the Kid Hits YOU:rolleyes2
Posted by kidlesskim
http://forum.kellymom.net/showthread.php?t=166051
Here's what happens when they do this "gentle discipline" nonsense
At my wits end over hitting
I honestly don’t know what to do about it, but both my husband and I are getting angrier and angrier at Daniel over his hurting us. Honestly I almost hit him back today. Almost everyday he hurts us and we’ve tried talking to him. Time outs. Taking away toys and shows. When he does it we stop playing with him immediately and tell him that no one wants to play with someone who hurts them, but it’s just getting worse. "Daniel" is in DIRE need of an old fashioned spanking
Today we are trying to install a dishwasher. We’ve been hand washing for months and it’s a lot more work than I remembered. So we saved up and bought a new one. Daniel took a plastic bat and started breaking up the Styrofoam. Joe told him to stop it’s making so much noise because we are trying concentrate. (We had cartoons on for him while we were busy.) He kept doing it so I told him to give me the bat. Instead he hit me in the leg with it. I told him “Time out†and took the bat from him to put it on time out too. He kept trying to take the bat back instead of listening. I turned around and opened the door to take it outside and he picked up the piece of wood they put across the top of the dishwasher (2x1 by about 2 feet long?) and he hit me in the back with it. HARD! Like hard enough to leave a mark from the edge and still be sore an hour later.
THIS is what happens when the PARENTS aren't in control!:headbrick
I was beyond angry and honestly so white hot I had a hard time not hitting him. I was crying because it hurt and I just don’t know what to do. When Joe saw the mark he was ready to spank him so he wouldn’t forget to never do that again and I managed to stop him, only I wasn't even sure that was the right thing anymore. Both of us are tired of feeling like our 4 year old (5 on the 13th) is a bully. He thinks that he should be able to do whatever he wants and just ignores us if he’s not in the mood to comply. OF COURSE that's what the little bastard does because there are NO CONSEQUENCES to his bad, bullying, and apparently dangerous behavior besides meaningless "gentle discipline" bullshit!:BS
It’s not like we let him get away with it but nothing gets through to him. I shouldn’t be sitting her crying an hour later because I can’t control my son and he just hit me he hit me with a stick. How do I get it across to him that it’s not acceptable and that it hurts bad. It’s the 3rd time this week he’s hurt me badly enough to bring tears to my eyes. He jumped on me and he hit me in the wrist with a toy the other 2 times. I try really, really hard not to spank and we have talked to him about why we don’t want to spank but how hard he is making it lately. I’ll admit that in the past I have failed to live up to my ideals, but he’s never had a spanking that was like Joe or I had growing up. More of quick swat when he did something really dangerous and the 1st couple of times he hurt one of us way back before I decided that I wanted to try no spanking at all. WHY are they "trying so hard" to not spank the little fucker? He is VIOLENT and has a pattern of hitting THEM and obviously this "gd" crap is NOT working!
Although Joe swatted his butt rather hard a few weeks ago when Daniel kneed him hard (and deliberately) in the ribs while they were playing on the bed. Which caused us to have a huge argument because we’d agreed over 2 years ago not to do that anymore. Over the last few weeks (months) as my son gets more and more challenging and just downright mean, I’m questioning my resolve once again. Last time I had doubts when we went through a rough period I got some great advice here. But how to handle problems at 2 or 3 is not what is best at 5. GOOD FOR JOE! He needs to spank that little bastard until he STOPS kneeing them, hitting them,and beating them with fucking sticks!
Anywhere else I know I’ll be told I should just spank him. Actually one of Joe’s cousins was pushing me to spank him so much that I block her from seeing any posts where he acts the least bit like a 4 year old because even if I wouldn’t punish him over it she was going to tell me how much he needs a spanking. I also made it very clear that she will never watch Daniel after she told me that if she did he’d get the spanking he deserves. Oh, I feel certain that cousin is SO disappointed that SHE won't have to babysit the MONSTER brat!
Yeah I picked a winner in that Godmother and I think she gets the idea now she will never get custody of him if something happens to us. But now I’ve seen how she spanks and how quick she is to do it over even the slightest infraction which I didn’t know before hand or I never would have agreed to use her. (She doesn’t have any kids and at the time she didn’t have any other godchildren. Right before Daniel was born a friend of hers had a son and made her his godmother too. Which she didn’t bother to tell me when she was begging to be Daniel’s godmother since she didn’t have any. ) I saw her spank him twice over stuff I wouldn’t have batted an eye at and I would hate to see how she would have reacted to something more serious since I thought it was excessive. Again, NO ONE WANTS to be the God Mother or even the casual baby sitter of a little violent fucker like that! I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone "begged"" to be the God Mother to that sack of shit, especially an UNchilded person! These cows KILL me how they seem to think ANYONE would WANT their little brats! I am sure that cousin would dump him off on CPS the first chance she got OR she'd beat him until he acted like a normal human being.
I really do not want to spank my son, but he is going to seriously injure someone if he keeps acting this way. WHY NOT? She's just going to unleash him onto society and when she does, someone else will undoubtedly NOT take too kindly to the little fucker's violence and kick his ass into tomorrow! What then?
I should say that most of the times he hurts are not deliberate. They are him playing too rough, but the angry strike outs are becoming way too common. So any help would be appreciated. I’ve calmed down a lot writing this, but I’m still sad that my son actually hit me with something like that. He does understand that it hurts and he says he's sorry, and I he shows empathy for other people being in pain but he just won't stop causing it. Thank you for any suggestions. Oh we are both SAH parents because my husband is medically retired. Although I sell Rodan + Fields products on the side. He get's pleanty of 1 on 1 time with both of us. I have been planning to homeschool for K this year but now I'm 2nd guessing that. NOW she's making excuses and back pedaling! She had better home school the little monster because otherwise, I'd bet the school will end up calling CPS or perhaps even the police when she dumps him off and he starts abusing other kids and the teachers!
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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
Here's what happens when they do this "gentle discipline" nonsense
At my wits end over hitting
I honestly don’t know what to do about it, but both my husband and I are getting angrier and angrier at Daniel over his hurting us. Honestly I almost hit him back today. Almost everyday he hurts us and we’ve tried talking to him. Time outs. Taking away toys and shows. When he does it we stop playing with him immediately and tell him that no one wants to play with someone who hurts them, but it’s just getting worse. "Daniel" is in DIRE need of an old fashioned spanking
Today we are trying to install a dishwasher. We’ve been hand washing for months and it’s a lot more work than I remembered. So we saved up and bought a new one. Daniel took a plastic bat and started breaking up the Styrofoam. Joe told him to stop it’s making so much noise because we are trying concentrate. (We had cartoons on for him while we were busy.) He kept doing it so I told him to give me the bat. Instead he hit me in the leg with it. I told him “Time out†and took the bat from him to put it on time out too. He kept trying to take the bat back instead of listening. I turned around and opened the door to take it outside and he picked up the piece of wood they put across the top of the dishwasher (2x1 by about 2 feet long?) and he hit me in the back with it. HARD! Like hard enough to leave a mark from the edge and still be sore an hour later.
THIS is what happens when the PARENTS aren't in control!:headbrickI was beyond angry and honestly so white hot I had a hard time not hitting him. I was crying because it hurt and I just don’t know what to do. When Joe saw the mark he was ready to spank him so he wouldn’t forget to never do that again and I managed to stop him, only I wasn't even sure that was the right thing anymore. Both of us are tired of feeling like our 4 year old (5 on the 13th) is a bully. He thinks that he should be able to do whatever he wants and just ignores us if he’s not in the mood to comply. OF COURSE that's what the little bastard does because there are NO CONSEQUENCES to his bad, bullying, and apparently dangerous behavior besides meaningless "gentle discipline" bullshit!:BS
It’s not like we let him get away with it but nothing gets through to him. I shouldn’t be sitting her crying an hour later because I can’t control my son and he just hit me he hit me with a stick. How do I get it across to him that it’s not acceptable and that it hurts bad. It’s the 3rd time this week he’s hurt me badly enough to bring tears to my eyes. He jumped on me and he hit me in the wrist with a toy the other 2 times. I try really, really hard not to spank and we have talked to him about why we don’t want to spank but how hard he is making it lately. I’ll admit that in the past I have failed to live up to my ideals, but he’s never had a spanking that was like Joe or I had growing up. More of quick swat when he did something really dangerous and the 1st couple of times he hurt one of us way back before I decided that I wanted to try no spanking at all. WHY are they "trying so hard" to not spank the little fucker? He is VIOLENT and has a pattern of hitting THEM and obviously this "gd" crap is NOT working!
Although Joe swatted his butt rather hard a few weeks ago when Daniel kneed him hard (and deliberately) in the ribs while they were playing on the bed. Which caused us to have a huge argument because we’d agreed over 2 years ago not to do that anymore. Over the last few weeks (months) as my son gets more and more challenging and just downright mean, I’m questioning my resolve once again. Last time I had doubts when we went through a rough period I got some great advice here. But how to handle problems at 2 or 3 is not what is best at 5. GOOD FOR JOE! He needs to spank that little bastard until he STOPS kneeing them, hitting them,and beating them with fucking sticks!
Anywhere else I know I’ll be told I should just spank him. Actually one of Joe’s cousins was pushing me to spank him so much that I block her from seeing any posts where he acts the least bit like a 4 year old because even if I wouldn’t punish him over it she was going to tell me how much he needs a spanking. I also made it very clear that she will never watch Daniel after she told me that if she did he’d get the spanking he deserves. Oh, I feel certain that cousin is SO disappointed that SHE won't have to babysit the MONSTER brat!
Yeah I picked a winner in that Godmother and I think she gets the idea now she will never get custody of him if something happens to us. But now I’ve seen how she spanks and how quick she is to do it over even the slightest infraction which I didn’t know before hand or I never would have agreed to use her. (She doesn’t have any kids and at the time she didn’t have any other godchildren. Right before Daniel was born a friend of hers had a son and made her his godmother too. Which she didn’t bother to tell me when she was begging to be Daniel’s godmother since she didn’t have any. ) I saw her spank him twice over stuff I wouldn’t have batted an eye at and I would hate to see how she would have reacted to something more serious since I thought it was excessive. Again, NO ONE WANTS to be the God Mother or even the casual baby sitter of a little violent fucker like that! I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone "begged"" to be the God Mother to that sack of shit, especially an UNchilded person! These cows KILL me how they seem to think ANYONE would WANT their little brats! I am sure that cousin would dump him off on CPS the first chance she got OR she'd beat him until he acted like a normal human being.
I really do not want to spank my son, but he is going to seriously injure someone if he keeps acting this way. WHY NOT? She's just going to unleash him onto society and when she does, someone else will undoubtedly NOT take too kindly to the little fucker's violence and kick his ass into tomorrow! What then?
I should say that most of the times he hurts are not deliberate. They are him playing too rough, but the angry strike outs are becoming way too common. So any help would be appreciated. I’ve calmed down a lot writing this, but I’m still sad that my son actually hit me with something like that. He does understand that it hurts and he says he's sorry, and I he shows empathy for other people being in pain but he just won't stop causing it. Thank you for any suggestions. Oh we are both SAH parents because my husband is medically retired. Although I sell Rodan + Fields products on the side. He get's pleanty of 1 on 1 time with both of us. I have been planning to homeschool for K this year but now I'm 2nd guessing that. NOW she's making excuses and back pedaling! She had better home school the little monster because otherwise, I'd bet the school will end up calling CPS or perhaps even the police when she dumps him off and he starts abusing other kids and the teachers!
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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!
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