Infertility Can be Cured by Faith and Prayer and Other Nonsense(So says a fundie site):rolleyes2

http://stronginfaith.org/article.php?page=17

http://stronginfaith.org/article.php?page=15


You are already blessed with fruitfulness
Because of what Jesus did for us on the Cross, all believers are blessed with the blessings of faithful Abraham. Are you married to a person of the opposite sex? Are you a born-again believer? If yes, then the blessing of fruitfulness of the womb is already available to you. All you have to do is apply faith (confidence) in God's willingness and ability to make you fruitful and most assuredly fruitfulness of the womb will be realized and appropriated to you. In addition, you are entitled to a normal childbirth free from Miscarriage [Exodus 23:26].I am wondering how Christian fundamentalists, who are infertile due to cancer, chemo, birth defects or disease of the reproductive organs, and other medically diagnosed infertility, feel when these STUPID bastards claim if they believe and have faith they can create a self replicant? Not that I condone loaf shitting or this Quiverful nonsense, but it must be dreadful to be a member of one of these fundie-flocks and be told the reason you can't get pregnant or sire a loaf is because you don't have enough faith. I FAIL to see how lack of faith can make a woman infertile if her uterus has been removed for any reason for which she had no control, like in an accident or due to a disease or MAYBE, she was born infertile because she doesn't produce eggs and never will.


Respond to Infertility with Faith and Prayer
The Bible shows us through example how to overcome infertility problems. The remedy for infertility and/or miscarriage is by faith and prayer. You now see that it is definitely God's will for you to be fruitful in your body (fertile) so respond to the mountain of infertility with faith and the spoken word. Call those things that be not as though they were. Saturate yourself in the word until faith springs forth and you believe the word of God more than you believe your natural circumstances, your doctors diagnosis, and old wives tales. All those reports in the natural may be real but truth exists beyond what you can see, taste, hear, smell, or touch. Use your faith in God's word to appropriate his blessings, and most assuredly, soon your desire for children will be realized. Praise God! Abraham and his wife, Sarah, received their first child when he was 100 years old and she was 90, because they exhibited faith in God's promise to them. SURELY they aren't suggesting that at age 90 these women will have their barrenness cured by a miracle from God because they never gave up hope of shitting out a self replicant? This kind of tripe is infuriating to ME and I don't even WANT a shitsack! I can't begin to imagine how angry and hurt some of these women must be who truly desire children and are told they aren't getting pregnant because their faith isn't strong enough! HOW absurd and preposterous, not to mention it is very Un-Christian to lay that type of guilt and shame upon one of those glazed eyed pasty faced girls who literally believes her self worth is tied to how many loaves she can pinch off. .:headbrick


Childbirth and Healthy Children
Do you know that God loves children? The first command God gave to mankind was to "be fruitful and multiply" (Genesis 1:28).Furthermore, did you know that God is the One who provides the ability to conceive children? According to Psalms 127:3, "children are a heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward". In Genesis 33:5, Jacob refers to his children as "the children whom God has graciously given your servant." If your heart's desire has been to experience the joy of childbirth, but you have not been able to do so thus far, you may feel that God doesn't want you to have children. You may feel that something is wrong with you and you don't deserve children. This simply isn't the truth! The truth is that God wants to give you the desires of your heart and he doesn't want to withhold any good thing from you. Um, then WHY are there HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of sick and dying kids, babies born without brains, Cystic Fibrosis, and seriously disabled and mentally retarded among the flock? PLENTY of these babies and children are born of God fearing Christian people! Are they implying if a couple in their flock has a Tard or Spider Baby it's because they didn't have faith?


You have a right to conceive and birth healthy children
God is not a respecter of persons (Acts 10:34). What he does for one person he will do for another! There are abundant examples in the Bible of couples who were barren, sought God, and then later conceived and birthed incredible and influential children. In fact, there isn't a case in the Bible where someone struggled with infertility and sought God and didn't eventually conceive and birth a child! So, why wouldn't God do the same for you? Well, I don't know but he does NOT give everyone who has faith children at all, necessarily, and LOTS of Christians have disabled children or children born with birth defects, terminal illnesses, et.......I can't find any answers regarding that on this site, but I am certain they have an answer for that as well and I would very much like to know what the fuck it might be!:headbrick

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!

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How can people be this stupid?

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“I was talking about children that have not been properly house-trained. Left to their own impulses and indulged by doting or careless parents almost all children are yahoos. Loud, selfish, cruel, unaffectionate, jealous, perpetually striving for attention, empty-headed, for ever prating or if words fail them simply bawling, their voices grown huge from daily practice: the very worst company in the world. But what I dislike even more than the natural child is the affected child, the hulking oaf of seven or eight that skips heavily about with her hands dangling in front of her -- a little squirrel or bunny-rabbit -- and prattling away in a baby's voice.”


― Patrick O'Brian, The Truelove


lib'-er-ty: the freedom given to you to make the wrong decision, based on the reasoned belief that you will normally make the right one.

God: "Oh for the love of me! Now I have to be a fertility specialist! Between rescuing people from disasters, helping sports teams win, having the Pentcoastals on the horn every other minute, some crazy girls going on about meeting Justin Bieber, taking care of sick people, trying to tell the Duggars to stop with the kids and women praying for me to deliver men and babies to them, I never have anymore me time! At least back in the day, there were other gods to take care of this, but they either retired or got killed off in Ragnorak (damn Norse!)! I blame my son for all this..."

I gotta go talk to a funeral director about the cost of an asbestos coffin now..

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How can people be this stupid?

Brainwashing and weak-mindedness. That's all it is.

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""be fruitful and multiply""

I still think this means EAT BANANAS AND DO MATH.

Damn straight.

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So if I take up worshipping Satan - will that make me infertile?

Which way should I go? Satan or Atheism? Trying to parse the 'opposite' here.

I was also thinking of going with Molekh, but this deity wants live children for sacrifices so I'm not seeing that working towards infertility.

Help me out here.

Ba'al? Belial? There are so many to pick from, I'm confused as to what will work best.

Kim, you're really finding things this weekend that are causing a lot of flashbacks and memories. We spent fifteen years in the Word of Faith and heard this kind of drivel almost every Sunday over every imaginable issue. We never subscribed to the "if you don't have it, then you don't have enough faith or you aren't standing on the Word" nonsense. Unfortunately, most of the denomination's (cult's?) members did. Sometimes shit just happens! Sometimes it's nobody's fault, and really, why do some people just have to blame someone for a problem? The guilt and shame we saw heaped on people for natural problems like cancer, colds, infertility, and being laid off was downright spiritual abuse. The so called Word of Faith shattered more faith than it encouraged. Of course, they also heaped abuse on members who didn't have a slew of kids. They were supposed to raise up a mighty army for the Lord, don't you know.

We heard this directed at us, and I never thought about it as a bingo until just this moment. So, add about a dozen more times to our list. The conversations upon meeting a deacon or pastor usually went like this:

Him: "How long have you been married?"
Us: (By then, between five and fifteen years.)
Him: "How many children do you have?"
Us: "None."
Him: "Oh, the Lord will bless you with a quiverful, brother! Just believe! Stand on the Word!"
Us: "We don't want any."
Him: Blank look in eyes as his brain implodes.

At one of our first forays into that denomination, we went to hear Kenneth Hagin (the founder). At the end of the service, the woman sitting next to DW looked at her, smiled, and said, "The Lord told me to tell you that you will have six children and the first will be a girl." FALSE PROPHET!!!

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Oh, "Be fruitful and multiply" is not a command, as the evangelical/fundamentalist/charismatic crowd likes to claim. Most mainstream theologians say it is a blessing. It's like us saying to someone, "have a great vacation." We aren't commanding the other party to have a great vacation, we're blessing them. It's their choice to have a great vacation, and it's their choice as to what makes up a great vacation. DW and I are being very fruitful by adding to our education and multiplying our ability to help others and add to American culture. No children needed.

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"Because of what Jesus did for us on the Cross"



what an ODD WAY to put it!

" Abraham and his wife, Sarah, received their first child when he was 100 years old and she was 90"

talk about GEEZER BREEDERS!

"Do you know that God loves children?"

then why does he abort so many through miscarriage?

""be fruitful and multiply""

I still think this means EAT BANANAS AND DO MATH.

Keep in mind that, on Abraham, a year was not as we know a year. The calendar we use was based on a Roman calendar, which was done to correct the issues of a previous calendar in terms of agriculture. 90 years could have been 46...

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Abraham and his wife, Sarah, received their first child when he was 100 years old and she was 90

That can't be biologically possible. It just can't be. :goggle

Didn't people live, on average, for hundreds of years back then? larious

So does this mean that being "sinful" by drinking, swearing, never going to church, getting tattoos, supporting marriage equality and never ever praying will make me sterile?

Fuck! I chose right then.

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Didn't people live, on average, for hundreds of years back then? larious

It just SEEMED like it, because there were no movies, books, or tv!

larious


That, and tending to goats, sleeping in barns with camels, killing perfectly healthy animals only to sacrifice them as burnt offerings, tilling the desert by hand in 110 degree blistering heat, and with nothing else to do but pray and pound out some unleavened bread cakes for dinner, the sand in the bottle probably seemed to drop down slowly, grain by boring grain, and a year likely felt like a decade.

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If YOU are the "exception" to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don't hate your kids, I HATE YOU!