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Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay

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Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 13, 2014
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Friends of a widow beaten to death and stuffed in a suitcase at a Bali resort say they warned her not to take her troublesome teenage daughter along on the dream vacation.

The news comes as it emerged police had been called to victim Sheila von Wiese Mack's suburban Chicago home some 86 times to break up fights between the wealthy academic and her daughter, Heather Mack, 19, a college drop out who was 'hanging out with a bad crowd' and had recently moved into a hotel.

The two had an often tempestuous relationship, recalled close friend Mark Bacharach, and had been fighting prior to the vacation at the luxury St. Regis hotel on the Indonesian island resort.

But Mrs Mack tracked down her daughter, and despite the fact she 'barely recognized her anymore' the two set off on the 10-day-plus trip to the other side of the globe, where the 62-year-old ultimately met a grisly end.

Ms Mack and her boyfriend, Tommy Schaefer, 21, were arrested in connection with the murder early Wednesday morning. They have not been charged.

'She tried to hope when it came [to Heather],' Mr Bacharach told NBC News. 'That was my friend's most outstanding characteristic.

'At least four or five of us would say to kick her out. She was hanging out with a bad crowd. But Sheila always took her back. [Heather] could be as charming and self-effacingly sweet one minute, and then a vicious little monster the next.'

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Looks like everyone warned moo but she was the only one who couldn't see what a monster her spawn was. I can't understand spoiling little shits like this. Did she think she was going to splurge the girl into being a decent person?

Well, good job there. Is this one of those precious crotch spawns who will take care of you when you're old? Take care meaning kill.
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 13, 2014
If that's being " taken care of," I'll gladly pass. It seems this little shit had the best of everything and didn't appreciate any of it. The article says those 86 times the police were called were over a period of ten years. This kid was a problem from a very early age, apparently. I actually feel sorry for Moo in this case. Nobody deserves that kind of end. Hope her spawn enjoys life in a foreign prison.angrily flogging with a whip

It takes a child to raze a village.
An academic and a songwriter, eh... more proof that talented people don't necessarily have talented children, and another case people should bear in mind before deploying the "but you two SHOULD have children!" bingo. I agree that this is a sad story, it sounds like the parents here managed to do a lot with their lives and made some real achievements- sadly unappreciated by a sprog who didn't inherit any of their talent or drive. What a waste...

That said, the "hanging with a bad crowd" bit makes me wonder- always the fault of "the bad crowd", isn't it? Frankly if you are in a bad crowd you are a bad crowd. Where do all of these "bad crowds" come from, eh? Surely not bad parents???
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 14, 2014
"You know that parents are just screaming that because the mother was an academic she never spent enough time with her child which is why she turned out so fucking bad." - my roommates initial reaction.

I think that this is an excellent piece of evidence for the whole "kids are a crapshoot" truth. Here we have an excellent academic, and a delinquent. Aren't those things almost polar opposites? I mean seriously, how far from the fucking tree can you get?
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 14, 2014
The only good to come out of this is that the spoiled little shit will spend the rest of her life and ultimately die in a prison there, not one of the country club prisons here.

Capital punishment is restricted to a handful of crimes in Indonesia. Currently, prisoners are only sentenced to death for three crimes: murder, drugs and terrorism. Foreigners are not exempt.


BRITISH woman Lindsay Sandiford can now look forward to sleeping for a very long time on a mat on the floor, dormitory-style, in a hot, smelly and dank Bali prison cell.

There will no beds and nice bedding, no western toilets and no creature comforts. Her sleeping partners and cell mates, who she will sleep cheek by jowl with, will not be her friends, she will never know who to trust and nothing will be sacred.

Sentenced yesterday to death for her role in trafficking 4.8kg of cocaine into the holiday island, the British grandmother now faces years of appeals and pleas for clemency before her eventual fate will be known.

The only constant will be that her home will be Bali’s Kerobokan Prison, in the midst of the ever trendy suburb of Kerobokan. She is in Block W, the women’s block – the same place where Australians Schapelle Corby and Renae Lawrence are held and where Lawrence is one of the chief prisoners, in charge of the others.

The numbers in her cell will differ from less than 10 to 13 or 14, depending on the prison population. Most of the women she shares with will be there on drug charges, prostitution and theft. Kerobokan jail is dreadfully overcrowded
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Life there is no picnic. As well as the awful sanitary and health problems and the filth, there is the personality clashes and in-fighting amongst the prisoners themselves.

Her co-accused, fellow Briton Rachel Dougall, who has accused Sandiford of setting her up, is there too. There is no love lost between them. The male co-accused are also there.

Personal effects are regularly stolen from the prisoners by their cell mates.There are no beds. The prisoners sleep on mats or mattresses on the floor, lined up like a camping excursion. The toilets are squat toilets and there is no shower, just an Indonesian-style mandi – a tub of water and a small bucket to pour it over yourself.

Prison food is rudimentary to say the least and most foreigners in Kerobokan Jail rely on friends or relatives outside to bring them food daily. Health facilities too are poor and things like a toothache can go untreated for long enough for the tooth to rot and fall out.

Boredom is a constant. There is little to do in jail in Bali, especially if you are in the women’s block. While the men are allowed to run courses, learning computers and English and art, there is very little for the women. There are no libraries and very little to make the days interesting aside from visits. Visitors are allowed each day except Mondays and they are full contact visits, on the bright side. This too means they get to mingle with the male prisoners.

It’s a harsh world and drugs are a big problem inside the jail. Sandiford will need to be made of tough stuff and be able to defend herself. Being a foreigner is no picnic – it means more hands out for bribe money to get even basic goods and services.

Sandiford, 56, was arrested in May last year and after her arrest was kept at the cells at Denpasar police station before being transferred to Kerobokan jail.
The death sentence handed down to her yesterday came as shock to many in Bali. Her co-accused had got much lighter sentences.

Sandiford is now one of four foreigners on death row in Kerobokan Jail.
Australians Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran, from the Bali Nine drug smuggling ring, are on death row, having lost all their legal appeals against the penalty. They have lodged clemency pleas with Indonesia’s President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, but have no answer yet. And a Nigerian drug trafficker is also on death row and in a similar situation.

Sandiford will now face years of appeals and waiting before she knows her eventual fate. Schapelle Corby’s clemency, cutting her sentence from 20 to 15 years, was granted seven years after her conviction.

The death penalty is carried out in Indonesia by firing squad, normally in the middle of the night in a remote place, illuminated by flood lights. The public are not allowed to witness executions.

Members of the police force’s elite Brimob paramilitary brigade make up firing squads. They consist of 12 armed soldiers however only three of them actually have live rounds in their weapons – the rest have blanks. Nobody knows who has the live rounds and who has the blanks. This is to ease the conscience of the firing squad and so that no-one knows who fired the killer shot.

The condemned person is tied to a wooden cross or post and the spot of their heart is illuminated on a vest they wear to guide the firing squad. The prisoner can elect to wear a hood or not and can have a religious person present until the last moments.

It is a terrifying and lonely way to go but one which Indonesia still chooses.

The last executions in Indonesia were in November 2008 when the three Bali bombers, Amrozi, Mukhlas and Imam Samudra were executed together.
Since then the country has had an unofficial moratorium on carrying out the ultimate sanction and many analysts had hoped this meant the republic was moving away from the death penalty, in line with other countries in the world.

It had been interpreted for good news for Chan and Sukumaran and the more than 100 others on death row.

However, at Christmas time the Attorney General’s office announced that it plans to execute 10 people in 2013. The doomed have yet to be publicly identified but it does not include the Australians, whose clemency pleas are yet to be considered by the President. (Four were executed...one for drugs, thre for murder.)

The announcement comes as authorities said that 113 people were sentenced to death in 2012 alone. Now Sandiford’s name has been added to that list.
Whether the President will be prepared to grant clemency to the Australians or Sandiford remains to be seen. Last year SBY granted a reprieve to an Indonesian prisoner, reducing her death penalty to life behind bars.

But it was subsequently found she was running a drug ring behind bars and the President came in for heavy criticism from the parliament and his party in what was seen as a setback for moves to abolish the death penalty, or at least unofficially stop using it.


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From a bottle cap message on a Magic Hat #9 beer: Condoms Prevent Minivans
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I want to pick up a bus full of unruly kids and feed them gummi bears and crack, then turn them loose in Hobby Lobby to ransack the place. They will all be wearing T shirts that say "You Could Have Prevented This."
Well, lets hope that the bleeding hearts don't start donating money and whining about "cruel and unusual punishment" and "human rights violations" and trying to get her to be tried and serve her sentence in a cushy American prison with free education, healthcare, three hots, and a cot courtesy of the taxpayers. She committed the ultimate cruel and unusual punishment and human rights violation by viciously beating her mother to death and stuffing the body into a suitcase during a luxury vacation on said mother's dime.

Though I wonder, with boredom being rampant in an Indonesian prison, why not put them to work doing crap jobs or be lab rats in medical and cosmetic experiments?

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Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 14, 2014
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paragon schnitzophonic
Well, lets hope that the bleeding hearts don't start donating money and whining about "cruel and unusual punishment" and "human rights violations" and trying to get her to be tried and serve her sentence in a cushy American prison with free education, healthcare, three hots, and a cot courtesy of the taxpayers. She committed the ultimate cruel and unusual punishment and human rights violation by viciously beating her mother to death and stuffing the body into a suitcase during a luxury vacation on said mother's dime.

Though I wonder, with boredom being rampant in an Indonesian prison, why not put them to work doing crap jobs or be lab rats in medical and cosmetic experiments?

I remember hearing about a case in Peru where a couple of Americans tried to smuggle drugs out and got caught. They ended up in a Peruvian prison but eventually were able to get transferred to an American prison to serve out the remainder of their sentences. I just hope that doesn't happen here.

If this girl doesn't like being told what to do, she's not going to like prison in Indonesia or anywhere else. There are some people you can't do much with, and she's probably one of them.
They had been arrested three weeks earlier using the victim's credit card (without her permission) to host a hotel party. I guess the luxury vacation was their reward? sarcastic clapping

http://www.suntimes.com/29229936-761/chicago-woman-dead-in-bali-daughter-1-other-arrested.html#.U-zv_61ATIU
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 14, 2014
This is a chilling case, but a few things do make me wonder. First of all, the name James L Mack rang a bell and upon googling it I found this:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-08-16/news/0608160239_1_mr-mack-classical-music-jazz

So duhddy was 66 when this girl was born, and moo was 43. Apart from that, duh had five other chyldrun. Now I could still somehow (not really) understand if the girl had been the very-much-longed-for only child if moo and duh both had been 43, sort of like a last-ditch attempt to have offspring by two intelligent, wealthy and educated people. But to father a chyld at 66? When you already have five others? Sorry but that takes vanity and selfishness to a whole new level. It seems as if it was a case of 'look. dick and oven are both still working'. smile rolling left righteyes2

Secondly, if a parent is so stupid that they let it get to the point where the police visit on 86 separate occasions, the kyds should be taken into care and the offending parent carted off to a mental hospital. These were not poor people, they could have afforded to send her to boarding school if she was so hard to handle.

I find it strange that the girl left an extremely badly written message on twitter, usually people who come from 'good' backgrounds tend to write more or less correctly, even when they're trying to be 'gangsta'. Duh died when she was 10, maybe that was a shock to her. Maybe her mother treated her badly. There must've been something going on if she wrote that 'I refuse to let someone tell me what to do'. Parents who are wealthy and educated can be the worst when it comes to basic human psychology. I know because mine were like that, and while I never had the desire to kill either of them and even got on well with my mom in her final years I still resent so many things they did to me that were unnecessary and cruel. The insults and taunts are something I will never forget, the constant critique of my appearance ('When I was your age, I had flawless skin, but yours is full of spots', 'I was prettier than you at the same age' etc), the fact that I was forbidden to learn to drive, only allowed to listen to classical music (when I started listening to what I wanted you would've thought I was doing something criminal) and, and, and. The only thing they knew to do was to give me money to shut me up. I've always gladly taken it beause I think I earned it. If you want to insult me, it's gonna cost you something. It most definitely won't be free.

I'm not saying that this girl doesn't have mental issues but I wonder whether the moo might be in large measure responsible for them. Just my two cents.
Rockchick does bring up some good points. Something is just not adding up about this chilling story.

I too experienced the same shit with my late moo when it came to basic human psychology. She wanted me to have the same exact Christian beliefs despite the fact she was well-educated, wanted me to only listen to gospel music and go to church, and criticize my appearance and clothes. But I never, never had the desire to kill her.

I do feel there is more to the story.
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 14, 2014
New story posted today.

Not too many new details, though the story says the girl was adopted. It doesn't say how old she was at that point, so, there could very well be a shit ton of something in her past with regards to her bio parents, foster homes, or something of the sort.

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From both the US and Indonesia, reports have emerged telling of Mrs Mack’s troubled daughter, who is understood to have been adopted.

An insight into the family background and Ms Mack’s psychological problems has come from a writer to the Jakarta Post who said she was the same age as Heather, having been friends with her for years.

'Heather has always been a very disturbed girl. She was extremely spoiled and would often scream and throw things until she got her way,' the writer said.

'In 2006, Sheila and her husband were vacationing on a cruise ship when something went wrong and her husband cut his foot due to negligence. Sheila sued the cruise ship and won a sizeable amount of money.

'Heather became even crazier with the newly-inherited millions.'

Of course it sounds like the one friend was trying to make excuses for the guy/boyfriend. As if the girl manipulated him into murder? Oh, he lost the 'love of his life' a couple of months ago, so yeah, that's supposed to temper his involvement, right?

There could be more to it, and moo could be responsible for at least some of it, or she could've just been one of those lax parunts who gave in to her kyd every time; bribing her to behave. If the little shit got spoiled and everything she wanted every time she pitched a fit, no wonder she thought she could get away with anything.

Sounds like the police had a psyche evaluation on the girl as well..
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 15, 2014
That makes more sense now if she was adopted, who knows what she's been thru? That said, while the Daily Fail report everything, no matter how insignificant, they often embellish their stories so much in order to deliver sensationalist headlines that the truth is completely distorted. I know of one case where an escort suddenly turned into a law student ten years her own junior. Especially where money and academic achievements are concerned the Fail loves to exaggerate.
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 15, 2014
A startling amount of parents that I have met haven't the first clue how to parent at all.
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rockchick
This is a chilling case, but a few things do make me wonder. First of all, the name James L Mack rang a bell and upon googling it I found this:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-08-16/news/0608160239_1_mr-mack-classical-music-jazz

So duhddy was 66 when this girl was born, and moo was 43. Apart from that, duh had five other chyldrun. Now I could still somehow (not really) understand if the girl had been the very-much-longed-for only child if moo and duh both had been 43, sort of like a last-ditch attempt to have offspring by two intelligent, wealthy and educated people. But to father a chyld at 66? When you already have five others? Sorry but that takes vanity and selfishness to a whole new level. It seems as if it was a case of 'look. dick and oven are both still working'. smile rolling left righteyes2

Secondly, if a parent is so stupid that they let it get to the point where the police visit on 86 separate occasions, the kyds should be taken into care and the offending parent carted off to a mental hospital. These were not poor people, they could have afforded to send her to boarding school if she was so hard to handle.

I find it strange that the girl left an extremely badly written message on twitter, usually people who come from 'good' backgrounds tend to write more or less correctly, even when they're trying to be 'gangsta'. Duh died when she was 10, maybe that was a shock to her. Maybe her mother treated her badly. There must've been something going on if she wrote that 'I refuse to let someone tell me what to do'. Parents who are wealthy and educated can be the worst when it comes to basic human psychology. I know because mine were like that, and while I never had the desire to kill either of them and even got on well with my mom in her final years I still resent so many things they did to me that were unnecessary and cruel. The insults and taunts are something I will never forget, the constant critique of my appearance ('When I was your age, I had flawless skin, but yours is full of spots', 'I was prettier than you at the same age' etc), the fact that I was forbidden to learn to drive, only allowed to listen to classical music (when I started listening to what I wanted you would've thought I was doing something criminal) and, and, and. The only thing they knew to do was to give me money to shut me up. I've always gladly taken it beause I think I earned it. If you want to insult me, it's gonna cost you something. It most definitely won't be free.

I'm not saying that this girl doesn't have mental issues but I wonder whether the moo might be in large measure responsible for them. Just my two cents.

Excellent points! I would add that parents who feel they are highly respected members of the community, might be very reluctant to admit their kid is totally fucked up. It's THEIR kid after-all, they can't be nuts, and if they are, it can be fixed in the family.
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 15, 2014
Saw on tv that she now claims to be knocked up with an ectopic pignancy and needs to go back to the US for treatment.
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 15, 2014
^^^ But all they would have to do is draw blood from her to see if she's telling the truth. Likely she's not, and that this is a way to 'game' the system in hopes she gets released to the US.
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 15, 2014
:1wv Non Murderous Oak Park resident waving Hi here! Tellin ya, there's some nutty people in these parts. Side eye to the locals here ~

I'm not rolling in dough and can't take anyone on a trip to Bali either. Nor I do have a big suit case.

I do have this one old steamer trunk I got at a garage sale ~

No I don't have alot of money. I am not 'from here' either. I did grow up in an equally nice, if not better area, my parents / family were not wealthy though either.

Right now, I could take someone on a trip to a Motel 6 in Gary, IN. Is about the 'wealth range' I'm in.

I just thought of maybe a 'happy' thing - with all the news about Robin Williams - they said he was from this area. I saw an interview clip and he mentioned Lake Forest (IL) and Lake Bluff. These are very nice areas. High End Swank. IIRC it was mentioned that his father was some kind of high level exec.

And look what he did. You'd guess he was a "rich kid" maybe. And he did what he set out to do. Even if his parents did kick in money - he himself had to do it all. And it looks like he became successful young. And kept being successful and did a variety of things. And most importantly it sounds like he was a very nice person.

Yes, 'class' and 'humanity' are not about money. Nor creativity. He could've gone the route of his father, I'm sure the guy had many connections. But he chose a more unstable and unpredictable field which, because clearly he was highly intelligent, he would've known he'd have to work very hard at.

And he did. To a fantastic degree.

This girl could've done the same. She certainly would have had a nice financial cushion. She could've wrote her own ticket.

What a waste.

How many of us - anyone - wishes we could have a bit more? I try to work for it. Try to find good deals. Which is how I can afford to live here.

Or to have people to help you? This place needs work. It's not too bad. I try to spend a couple hours every day on it. Plus these other 'side work' biz things. It's like I have 3 jobs! It would be nice if there were someone to help me. But, it is what it is and I just keep going.

Too bad I never met this woman. She could've lost Murder Brat and adopted me!

I would never use people for money though, I'd like to think I have some integrity.
Re: Moo Murdered By Entitled Demon Spawn She Took on Luxury Vacay
August 17, 2014
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cfchevygirl
Saw on tv that she now claims to be knocked up with an ectopic pignancy and needs to go back to the US for treatment.

Bullshit. She would be in the ER if true. I know a couple of people who had this happen.

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From a bottle cap message on a Magic Hat #9 beer: Condoms Prevent Minivans
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I want to pick up a bus full of unruly kids and feed them gummi bears and crack, then turn them loose in Hobby Lobby to ransack the place. They will all be wearing T shirts that say "You Could Have Prevented This."
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