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Dorisan
Kman - that is an excellent review. I saw Threads in its singular showing here in the US and have since caught parts of it on Youtube.
I think the difference between it and The Day After is how TDA portrayed America in such a golden light: wide expanses of farmland; small town USA with men gossiping a the barbershop; scrubbed and optimistic college students; the conservative preparation for a wedding. Then, in negative-style images of mushroom clouds, the last shrieks of people in the seconds that it takes to vaporize them, all that is wiped out.
Remembering the movie when it came out, it was a horror, but - today - I see a lot of proganda.
Threads is definitely a movie that twists your gut with revulsion. I see it as a true depiction and attempt to warn.
Re: Old nuclear war drama Threads and today's autards (long) September 26, 2015 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,391 |
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Threads is the only movie that has ever left me shaken. Strangely, it didn't affect my husband in the same way, but I tend to worry about the future more than he does. I think those born after 1985 don't really understand, because I grew up thinking the Russians would bomb us before my 18th birthday. It's a weird fear that a subset of Generation X had to grow up with.
This is pure paranoia talking but I always wondered if the rise of autism was part of a Communist plot to destroy the US from within, like the rumors that the Commies put fluoride in drinking water to turn people homosexual. I never believed it but it's entertaining to think about.
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Kman - that is an excellent review. I saw Threads in its singular showing here in the US and have since caught parts of it on Youtube.
I think the difference between it and The Day After is how TDA portrayed America in such a golden light: wide expanses of farmland; small town USA with men gossiping a the barbershop; scrubbed and optimistic college students; the conservative preparation for a wedding. Then, in negative-style images of mushroom clouds, the last shrieks of people in the seconds that it takes to vaporize them, all that is wiped out.
Remembering the movie when it came out, it was a horror, but - today - I see a lot of proganda.
Threads is definitely a movie that twists your gut with revulsion. I see it as a true depiction and attempt to warn.
I remember The Day After being a made for television movie... was it in theatres too?
Anyway, TDA was damn scary if you ask me. Anyway... I don't see the propaganda angle as much as you do, I guess. The US, generally, is a good place with good people. And the heartland is in fact filled with lots of small towns and wide expanses of farmland.
TDA left a lot of us feeling like we should do everything we can not to press the red button rather than to press it.
Re: Old nuclear war drama Threads and today's autards (long) September 26, 2015 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 2,308 |
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Dorisan
Looking back, it's interesting that the 80s was the decade of the Cold War coming to an end, the Berlin Wall being brought down, glasnost and perestroika, yet there was a surge in broadcasting to remind us that the Russians and communism were threats. And like Miss Hannigan said, anyone born after that time will never really understand the fear that hovered over the adult population at that time. I was a child who learned "duck and cover" in school. Now, goodness, talk about a ridiculous exercise. I don't remember if anyone ever pointed out, at that time, just how futile such a move would be, we just blindly followed the teacher's orders and were scared shitless.
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Looking back, it's interesting that the 80s was the decade of the Cold War coming to an end, the Berlin Wall being brought down, glasnost and perestroika, yet there was a surge in broadcasting to remind us that the Russians and communism were threats. And like Miss Hannigan said, anyone born after that time will never really understand the fear that hovered over the adult population at that time. I was a child who learned "duck and cover" in school. Now, goodness, talk about a ridiculous exercise. I don't remember if anyone ever pointed out, at that time, just how futile such a move would be, we just blindly followed the teacher's orders and were scared shitless.
Wait a second... so you're telling me that crouching under my dining room table won't spare me from a nuclear blast?!?
FUCK!!!!
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I was in High School when TDA came out. I recall even back then, the show got a lot of scathing reviews for being too optimistic , and the separated hero and heroine reuniting in a hospital was especially mocked.
As for Threads, I've never seen it: But unless the weaponry used in the film is something way different than what was tested on Bikini Atoll and the deserts of the USA, and used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I cannot see why it would cause human de evolution. The victims in those Japanese cities saw terrible radiation burns and a spike in certain forms of cancer , but nothing like mass severe autism in children or the descendants of the original survivors. Actually, it sounds like the filmmakers were inspired more by the fictional Planet of the Apes movies (ie trying to account for the far-future human degradation and muteness) than the effects of actual nuclear weapons.
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"That raises a profound question: could there be something in the environment that is triggering autism?"
-> there are scientists who say that autism is triggered by glyphosate.
http://naturalsociety.com/mit-scientist-glyphosate-to-cause-autism-in-50-of-children-by-2025/
chart:
http://www.medicaldaily.com/autism-rates-increase-2025-glyphosate-herbicide-may-be-responsible-future-half-316388
glyphosate = It is the active ingredient in RoundUp, a product made by Monsanto, which ranks as the number one herbicide worldwide
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First it was the commies, then it was the Muslims. I hate to say it, but the Western world needs to have a boogeyman to keep going. It's been that way since the Dark Ages with everyone thinking everyone else was a witch.
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First it was the commies, then it was the Muslims. I hate to say it, but the Western world needs to have a boogeyman to keep going. It's been that way since the Dark Ages with everyone thinking everyone else was a witch.
The world was a gnat's breadth away from nuclear war in the Cuban Missile Crisis of '62, and what's going on in the middle east right now with ISIS is pretty scary, too. Hardly "boogeyman" type stuff.
I also don't discount North Korea and their penchant for insanity.
The world is a scary place, and I don't dismiss the idea that future acts of war and destruction are quite possible with the lunatic leaders of certain nations and terrorist groups.
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I was a child who learned "duck and cover" in school. Now, goodness, talk about a ridiculous exercise. I don't remember if anyone ever pointed out, at that time, just how futile such a move would be, we just blindly followed the teacher's orders and were scared shitless.
Re: Old nuclear war drama Threads and today's autards (long) September 30, 2015 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 1,304 |
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I never watched any of those movies but I do remember that constant fear of nuclear war. There was even an article about it a few months ago talking about it as sort of a thing for people of a certain age (which I guess would be my age and Miss H's as well). I was think I'll avoid this movie; I still recall how I felt after reading A Canticle for Lebowitz as a child.
Re: Old nuclear war drama Threads and today's autards (long) September 30, 2015 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 480 |
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I was a child who learned "duck and cover" in school. Now, goodness, talk about a ridiculous exercise. I don't remember if anyone ever pointed out, at that time, just how futile such a move would be, we just blindly followed the teacher's orders and were scared shitless.
My older sisters came home from school after they did the 'duck and cover' drill. Dad, AKA Mr. Sunshine said, "Don't worry girls, if the bomb went off you'll be incinerated immediately." Not very reassuring, albeit true.
I was born in 1960, just too old to be considered a Gen-xer, but I think it's obvious that a lot of the 'slacker' mentality was a result of spending our childhoods terrorized by the fear of nuclear war. Why hold to old traditions? Why plan for a future that you don't believe will happen?
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addiea raine
First it was the commies, then it was the Muslims. I hate to say it, but the Western world needs to have a boogeyman to keep going. It's been that way since the Dark Ages with everyone thinking everyone else was a witch.