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Posted by cfdavep 
Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 25, 2016
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-child-benefit-social-safety-net-baby-bonus-childcare-justin-trudeau-social-assistance-1.3685290

That darn Trudeau
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 25, 2016
Just another socialist wealth-redistribution scheme. And as usual, it encourages poor people to breed, which is something that they absolutely should not do under any circumstances, that is if they're interested in ever leaving the ranks of the impoverished.

Two decades from now this program will be on the verge of collapse. Simple mathematics dictates that it will have to at the very least, double in size and scope, as the poor population will, at the very least, reproduce itself once over. When that day comes, those who call for the program to end will be chastised as being racist, sexist, bigoted, anti single mother, or whatever the current insult du jour happens to be. Those in favor of the program will say that the program would've worked better if only it had been funded more, paid out greater benefits, included more people on the dole, etc. etc.

Justin Trudeau is a typical Limousine Leftist. He was born on third base and thinks he's hit a home run. He believes that government should run people's lives. He has no knowledge of classical economics, and has accumulated little in the way of life experience when it comes to human nature. Did this man, the son of a former prime minister, ever actually work a day in his life? Let's be real here... he's never had to compete on a level playing field, and work to survive. As a result, he subscribes to the socialist doctrine--the immoral belief that it's okay to steal the fruits of the labor from one group and give it to another, all in the name of "social justice." At the at the end of the day, he gets into his limousine, retires to his mansion, and eats gourmet food. He thinks he's done a good deed. I am curious if the tar sands miner, putting in a 55 hour week of toil, shares that same opinion.

In a truly just nation, there would be no benefit for bearing any children, or not bearing them. Government would not be in the business of influencing people's personal decisions in any direction.
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 25, 2016
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StudioFiftyFour
Just another socialist wealth-redistribution scheme. And as usual, it encourages poor people to breed, which is something that they absolutely should not do under any circumstances, that is if they're interested in ever leaving the ranks of the impoverished.

Two decades from now this program will be on the verge of collapse. Simple mathematics dictates that it will have to at the very least, double in size and scope, as the poor population will, at the very least, reproduce itself once over. When that day comes, those who call for the program to end will be chastised as being racist, sexist, bigoted, anti single mother, or whatever the current insult du jour happens to be. Those in favor of the program will say that the program would've worked better if only it had been funded more, paid out greater benefits, included more people on the dole, etc. etc.

Justin Trudeau is a typical Limousine Leftist. He was born on third base and thinks he's hit a home run. He believes that government should run people's lives. He has no knowledge of classical economics, and has accumulated little in the way of life experience when it comes to human nature. Did this man, the son of a former prime minister, ever actually work a day in his life? Let's be real here... he's never had to compete on a level playing field, and work to survive. As a result, he subscribes to the socialist doctrine--the immoral belief that it's okay to steal the fruits of the labor from one group and give it to another, all in the name of "social justice." At the at the end of the day, he gets into his limousine, retires to his mansion, and eats gourmet food. He thinks he's done a good deed. I am curious if the tar sands miner, putting in a 55 hour week of toil, shares that same opinion.

In a truly just nation, there would be no benefit for bearing any children, or not bearing them. Government would not be in the business of influencing people's personal decisions in any direction.

I agree and Trudeau is living off his famblee's wealth. Even if he earns income his daddy paved the way for him. I agree about the no benefit/benefit for bearing any children.
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 25, 2016
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freya

I agree and Trudeau is living off his famblee's wealth. Even if he earns income his daddy paved the way for him. I agree about the no benefit/benefit for bearing any children.




The following traits make for a REALLY bad politician: Anyone who has never had to work for a living, never worked in the private sector, never was responsible for turning a profit, never worried about acquiring money in order to meet the basic needs of food/shelter/medicine, never worried about money in their life.

Trudeau is all of the above. And he's not the only one.

He has no comprehension, whatsoever, when it comes to the value of money and the sacrifices an individual puts forth to earn that money. And when you don't understand the value that something holds for an individual, it's easy for you to tell them that it isn't worth very much, and that they should just give it away. And in this case, he's using the power of government force to steal it from them, to steal what they sacrificed for, in order to give it away to those who haven't put forth the same sacrifice.

The only thing this will lead to in Canada, long-term, is a huge spike in the number of unwanted children.
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 26, 2016
same as bernie sanders: nothing but trust fund babies or the like

two cents ΒΆΒΆ

CERTIFIED HOSEHEAD!!!

people (especially women) do not give ONE DAMN about what they inflict on children and I defy anyone to prove me wrong

Dysfunctional relationships almost always have a child. The more dysfunctional, the more children.

The selfish wants of adults outweigh the needs of the child.

Some mistakes cannot be fixed, but some mistakes can be 'fixed'.

People who say they sleep like a baby usually don't have one. Leo J. Burke

Adoption agencies have strict criteria (usually). Breeders, whose combined IQ's would barely hit triple digits, have none.
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 26, 2016
While I think there should be an some sort of welfare for those that suffer a sudden bad time, Ithink there should be a strict benifit cap. That is, one that doesn't increase if you have children while on it. Knowing that getting pregnant would mean you or the rest of any existing children would not have as much food between everyone might make someone consider strapping on that condom a bit more.

However, there are some people that would still breed even if they were under severe financial hardship, even with the likelyhood of those funds not increasing. Although, I found the the book '2 Dollars a Day' and read many of the shit decisions people still make even while financial collapse is likely (mostly having babies they can't afford, some moving in too many family members that can't/don't work.) The author tries to tell you to feel sorry for them because of teh mommies and babbies and poverty, but I couldn't help be think many of these folks were mostly just fatally stupid. (I'm quite poor, and I was shaking my head at these people.)

They'd have to add the stipulation of taking birth control then, or temporary sterilization if they want to stay on welfare. That's what I would do, although some people would bitch that 'Having babbies is a right!' ;P
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 27, 2016
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Studio54
The following traits make for a REALLY bad politician: Anyone who has never had to work for a living,
never worked in the private sector, never was responsible for turning a profit, never worried about
acquiring money in order to meet the basic needs of food/shelter/medicine, never worried about money in their life.

I so agree with it. I don't know any politicians but I met people from such a privileged background and
those people are *somewhere else*. They have no idea how hard life can be/is.
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 28, 2016
I live in a place where breeders get lots of money for having kids. In case you have a low-wage job, you'd better calve because you get much more money and still the birth rates have gone down a lot. I posted here about a town which launched a welfare program offering 10.000 euros per loaf in order to increase births. The program failed and they stopped it this year.

Of course, now everybody is moaning that the government should pay more because the welfare now it's not enough.eye rolling smiley
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 28, 2016
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blackpearl
I live in a place where breeders get lots of money for having kids. In case you have a low-wage job, you'd better calve because you get much more money and still the birth rates have gone down a lot. I posted here about a town which launched a welfare program offering 10.000 euros per loaf in order to increase births. The program failed and they stopped it this year.

Of course, now everybody is moaning that the government should pay more because the welfare now it's not enough.eye rolling smiley

Did the program fail because it didn't increase the birth rate?
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 29, 2016
Yes, it failed because the birthrate remained the same. What would they expect to happen in a small town with no job opportunities? Because you were obliged to stay a number of years in that place in order to get the money.
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 29, 2016
This infuriates me, by giving famblies only money per month, they are perpetuating the cycle of breeding and poverty. Yet there are other classes that still struggle and work for a living.I've posted an open letter to Justin Trudeau on my blog and also contacted the liberal party with the link. If you would like to read it, you can do so here: I Walk Alone


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They are having children for selfish and narcissistic reasons, or are simply irresponsible. Funny... Those are the terms often used to describe the CF


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Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 29, 2016
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creativelycf
This infuriates me, by giving famblies only money per month, they are perpetuating the cycle of breeding and poverty. Yet there are other classes that still struggle and work for a living.I've posted an open letter to Justin Trudeau on my blog and also contacted the liberal party with the link. If you would like to read it, you can do so here: I Walk Alone


Keep fighting the good fight. Programs like this one don't make for a good citizen body... only a more needy one. Need begets need.
Re: Stupid Canadian Grabberment
July 31, 2016
They do the same in Oz, and it's a breeder's paradise. Working moos squirt a few clumps, and they hit the jackpot, which continues to be a windfall as schooling and tax benefits pay for them to be lazy SAHMs.

Of course, it's caused a massive breeding session with the poverty-bogans, who continue to squirt out clump after clump for the lovely 'clump-bonus'. The poor CF and singles get slugged the highest tax rate, to pay for this socialist breeders paradise, and don't see a red-cent from it.

Unfortunately in Oz, the breeding set has a large and influential voting demographic, so politicians on either side, wouldn't dare stop the handouts - so they ironically target the 'lazy and needy parasitical' unemployed instead.
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