Whiny Moo, art two

Some of you may recall this topic about the Moo-to-be on another of my boards talking about her unplanned, but 'wanted' pregnancy:

http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,47982

Apparently she's all butt-hurt that her fiance's buddies are taking him away for a bachelor party weekend for some gambling in Atlantic City and to a college football game. I'd post the topic URL, but you need to actually be a member at this place to read this topic, so I have instead included some choice quote from Moomie:

"I am young (24) and while my fiance and I are both responsible adults, this pregnancy was unplanned and kind of hit us like a ton of bricks."

- Being being prepared for an unplanned crotchspawn is not analogous with being a responsible adult, despite popular Moomie belief.

"Not that we aren't happy about it, but it caused an abrupt and HUGE change in our lifestyles which to be honest has been hard to cope with!"

- I always love how, when faced with a mistake-baby, the Moo always makes sure to point out that she and her partner are happy about it. Because, y'know, an expecting Moo couldn't possibly be unhappy with a myrakull from Gawd hisself! I also love how this pregnasty has disrupted their lives in a huge way, but abortion isn't something to consider...it sounds like this woman can't deal with not having a social life. Odds are, she'll be one of those cows that brings her baybee to bars and porn stores and other clearly adult venues.

"So not only is it hard for me to swallow that he's going to be gone for an entire weekend, out living it up in our old lifestyle - but he's going to be doing something I'd LOVE to do, and I am not invited."

- Again, this could be solved with a trip to a women's clinic. Honestly, as unplanned as this mistake was, this woman MUST have known she'd be giving up her lifestyle for her pweshus widdle baybee. So, since she knew what she was getting herself into, she has no reason to bitch and whine. If she's so mad at her mean fiance for daring to live it up a little before destroying his life, then I only imagine what else she's going to get pissy at him for. Really, the mistake is one she chose to keep and its in her body...why should this be a reason for her fiance to not try and enjoy himself? Moo is CHOOSING to not drink and party...that's for the loaf's benefit, and it's good she's actually thinking that much, but that shouldn't mean her fiance has to abstain from the lifestyle too, IMHO. Fuck, if I were in her shoes, I wouldn't dream of demanding my fiance not drink or have fun because of my repugnant ass...then again, if I were in her shoes, I'd have already aborted the damn mistake.

"I am already a MOM with someone elses life to look after. He on the other hand - can detach himself anytime that he wants. Just walk away and have a weekend to himself and go back to our old lifestyle and pretend like nothing has changed. I want that luxury, and I can't have it."

- Previous point proven. She's mad because she's got a little soul-sucker weighing her down physically and she doesn't want her conniving fiance livin' it up while the old ball and chain is at home, fat, hormonal and watching soaps while eating Ben & Jerry's. I'm not trying to be an ass, but if this woman really wanted to have a bachelorette party, she could. I don't see why HER pregnancy should stop her man from going out for what could be his last fun night out for years. She be jealous...and I would be too. If I had NO CHOICE in the matter. But keeping a pregnancy is not an obligation. So, I don't pity the bint.

"I've been so sick, and hate giving up what I love to do, and I'm really ashamed to say that I dont enjoy being pregnant!"

- Then why keep the damn thing?! Why do something unnecessary that you don't enjoy? Logic has left the building.

"I guess I thought he'd give up a crazy weekend with the boys for ME, in respect of me and in respect of our baby on the way, but the fact that he didnt makes me honestly believe that he is incapable of understanding how I feel and it really made me feel very isolated and alone."

- Yes, he, as a man, is incapable of understanding how a pregnant woman feels physically. And until he carries a baybee in his gut for nine months, he will never know the physical destruction that happens during pregnancy. No amount of bitching or putting bugs in his ear will make him understand, so quit while you're ahead. Also, just how would giving up a fun weekend with the boys be respectful for an unborn baby? Again, Moo is jealous that her man is out having fun and she's stuck at home...she's just making sure to blame him.

And the number of times she mentions she's pregnant is astonishing. Zealous much, you loon? I hope the fiance gets smart and jumps ship. As far as the replies, some folks seem to think that the Duh will embrace fatherhood when he holds his baybee for the first time. Others say that he's an awful person who will likely break a lot more promises. The OP herself claims he's been supportive of her choice to keep the mistake, so why is she bitching about him wanting to have a couple nights of fun?

Yet another whiny wannabe moo bleating for attention.
Unplanned? I will bet my next paycheck she 'forgot' the BC.

To a 'T', women (and some men, but women more likely than not) seem to operate under some universal delusion that spawning entitles them to universal worship.
Whoever the sperm doner is, he obviously likes to party. These women think that once the spawn is here (or on its way) Mr. Party is all of a sudden going to act like mr responsible and undertake the sacred baby worship. What the placenta brain moos fail to realize, this is the sperm doners personality, his character, who he is and nothing they do, including breeding the sacred f* trophy will change that. The only thing it gives them is more victim status about 'how baaad the man is' when they knew damn well who he was. some guys are sociopathic and clever enough on occasion to fool everyone. If you really back these moos into a corner, eventually it comes out that there were red flags dotted all over the dating 'relationship' period, they chose to ignore it. This scenario describes at least 80% of all this type of dysfunctionalism.
Bottom line is: cry me a river you dumb bimbo c*. You will make it so miserable that he will find every excuse to stay away from you. And since it sounds like you are just a shack up honey, he really has no committment to you. That is what most shack ups are: a committment to non-commitance.

Another thought I had...methinks Moomie is scared her man might find some hot young thing in Atlantic City to have fun with before resigning to be Duhddy to an unwanted kid. Honestly, I don't usually hear of too many relationships staying successful or happy when the couple marries because of a pregnancy the woman is too dumb to abort. These two already were planning on getting married, but they had to jump the gun due to the sperm infection (I should have mentioned this before o.o). The guy sounds like a respectful guy, asking the woman's father permission to marry her and all. But feeling forced into a marriage like this usually only leads to trouble. If they could have married at their own pace and had kids when they were ready, things might be different. But since Moo-to-be is a moron and wouldn't dream of being a baybee killer, they're getting shoved into marriage because of some goofy set of morals. I give them three years before they divorce.

But hey, the woman is digging her own metaphorical grave - she is already turning into the bitchy nagging wife that men complain about when they meet their buddies at the bar, and that just means he will turn into one of those dads that babysits their kids once a week and "works late" every single night.

The stupidity of Moos and their tendency to think that the world ought to revolve around them never fails to amaze me. She's whiny and jealous because the LOAF is making her stay home and she chooses to BLAME the sperm donor. .

Get over it, bitch. You CHOSE to keep it, now quit whining, suck it up, and ATTEMPT to act like an adult!

This woman's marriage is already over, just not officially. If the man gave a damn about her feelings then he wouldn't have asked his friends for such a lavish bachelor party in Atlantic city, which is as clear as the nose on her face and she knows it. He CLEARLY will not start being at home by 6pm, make dinner, bathe the baybee, etc....while she has a leisurely candlit bath and later fall into his loving arms. WHY do they ALWAYS think that this will happen? He will spend as much time away from her and that kyd as humanly possible and she will become fatter, disfigured, more moody and "hurt", whiny and tired. This will only lead to further marital discontent if the midnight wailing, shitty diapers, and endless streams of vomit don't do the trick. I predict his having an affair, if he hasn't already, and a divorce inside of a year.

This woman needs to wake up and smell the coffee and use her upcoming weekend alone in a productive manner. She needs to abort the worthless clump of cells, get her hair and nails done the next day, and buy a new outfit. If she wants to milk it for some sympathy, she can always claim that she had a miscarriage and is really "hurt" and sad. 24 is WAY too young for a healthy person's life to be over, which hers clearly will be if she allows this pignasty to continue, It doesn't take John Edwards to see that her future will be quite bleak with a kyd in the picture with this man and at this point, if ever, I also think that she should call off the wedding because this man does NOT love her, but to put it in her words is merely, "...being a responsible adult". What a short sighted and STUPID bitch and I feel reasonably certain that she will continue on with the marriage, the pregnancy, and sqeeze it right on out. She will get exactly what she deserves too. She will be disfigured, depressed, fat, ignored by hubby as he "plays", and completely responsible for an unwanted brat. What a wasted life already at age 24 and it could all be so easily avoided with about $400 and a free afternoon.

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Another thought I had...methinks Moomie is scared her man might find some hot young thing in Atlantic City to have fun with before resigning to be Duhddy to an unwanted kid. Honestly, I don't usually hear of too many relationships staying successful or happy when the couple marries because of a pregnancy the woman is too dumb to abort.

Me, neither. Especially with the kind of 'party lovin' couple they are. Awwww...the duhddy gets to detach himself from your fat, whiny ass for a while. That's just the way it goes. Better get used to it because that seems to be the way they've re-written Lifescript (TM).

"Not that we aren't happy about it, but it caused an abrupt and HUGE change in our lifestyles which to be honest has been hard to cope with!"
WHHHHYYY? Who the fuck thinks any child WON'T be a HUGE change any more? I guess they had to have vaginal sex and get knocked up because YOUR HEAD IS SHOVED SO FAR UP YOUR ASS NO PENIS WOULD FIT THERE.

"So not only is it hard for me to swallow that he's going to be gone for an entire weekend, out living it up in our old lifestyle - but he's going to be doing something I'd LOVE to do, and I am not invited."
A. You shouldn't be spending a weekend drinking and partying, YOU ARE PREGNANT BY CHOICE. B. It's a bachelor party, you're a pregnant chick= YOU ARE A BUZZ KILL. And if he's having a bachelor party, that means that you are getting married (I'm sure in a church in a big white virginal gown), and with the kid, you will be fulfilling your role in the LifeScript(tm) and as a result should be BLISSFULLY HAPPY. SUCK IT UP.

"I am already a MOM with someone elses life to look after. He on the other hand - can detach himself anytime that he wants. Just walk away and have a weekend to himself and go back to our old lifestyle and pretend like nothing has changed. I want that luxury, and I can't have it."
If you weren't so scared of running him off, you could tell him you expect him to be a FATHER and when your responsibility of carrying the child to term ends. That he'd better be ready to step up to the plate and start doing some FATHERING once it's out. But you won't because you have already proven that you will do anything to KEEP THAT MAYUN. And that, to you, means taking all the responsibility and eating your bitterness at losing your old life simply to snag some MAYUN, who may or may not want to be a father. GOOD JOB MANIPULATIVE BITCH!

"I guess I thought he'd give up a crazy weekend with the boys for ME, in respect of me and in respect of our baby on the way, but the fact that he didnt makes me honestly believe that he is incapable of understanding how I feel and it really made me feel very isolated and alone."
Maybe you shouldn't have kept a baby that you made with a man who doesn't respect you, Stupid cow.

"It truly is the one commonality that every designation of humans you can think of has, there's at least one asshole."
--Me

Okay, I'm jut gonna copy/paste the actual topic so I don't feel like I'm picking and choosing little bits here and there to rip apart:

"My fiance and I are getting married at the end of October, which is quickly approaching. We agreed ahead of time - no bachelor/bachelorette parties. It just wasnt something we are into, so it wasnt like I was pulling his teeth because I didnt want him to have one or anything. I just feel like, we are past that stage in our lives, if that makes sense. I dont mind and would enjoy doing something together with our close friends, like a Jack-and-Jill dinner, just something laid back and quiet. But I think we should be past the drunken weekends and strip clubs and gambling and all that other stuff - with baby on the way, I just don't feel like it's right. Not to mention I don't really understand the bachelors parties that are supposed to be "one last night of freedom" - obviously neither of us have been "free" (aka single) for a looong time, and now that we are about to be married, definitely not appropriate to be taking a night to pretend that you are single and do all kinds of stupid stuff. That is just my opinion, but maybe I am being a little harsh.

I am young (24) and while my fiance and I are both responsible adults, this pregnancy was unplanned and kind of hit us like a ton of bricks. Not that we aren't happy about it, but it caused an abrupt and HUGE change in our lifestyles which to be honest has been hard to cope with! I have always been a big partier, and yes I enjoy going to bars and I enjoy drinking with my friends...nothing irresponsible or crazy, but my fiance and I always liked to go to the bars after work and catch happy hour with our friends, watch football and drink beer, and go dancing and drinking at night clubs. Ever since we found out I am pregnant, that has all stopped cold turkey. First it was because I was sick and barely able to get myself out of bed with my morning sickness - but now that I am feeling better, it is just a conscious choice we have made, because it is very very hard for me to put myself in that atmosphere and feel like I can still have fun when I can't drink. Maybe that sounds ridiculous, I feel ridiculous saying it - but it's true. I have a hard time giving up these things and especially when we are surrounded by our friends drinking and having a great time. I don't want to be forced to face the temptation, so my solution has been just to avoid those situations entirely. My fiance has been very supportive so far - we rarely go out, and when we do, he doesn't drink either so that I am not the only one standing around sipping water while everyone else is having a drink.

Now the idea of a bachelor/bachelorette party was always a hard thing for me to swallow, even when my fiance and I were talking about our future wedding BEFORE I got pregnant. But now that I am pregnant - I dont even feel like I am in the mood for a bachelorette party, because I would want to go out dancing and drinking with my friends, that is my idea of a good time, but at the same time I no longer enjoy those things like I did before I got pregnant. I can't drink, and it's not fun to be sober in a crowd of people who have been drinking, and besides I barely have the energy to take a walk anymore - where can I get the energy for a night of dancing? Hence we were just going to scrap the idea entirely or just go to dinner and do something lowkey, so that we could both enjoy it.

Well last night one of his groomsmen called and has already planned this big weekend-long bachelor party for my fiance. He wants to take him to Atlantic City for gambling/drinking and then finish it on Sunday with a college football game. I almost flew off the handle - but instead decided not to say anything. I thought we had agreed not to do that stuff, but he has not said anything to his groomsmen, so I assume I was mislead and that he really wants this and that he's going. I feel like it's not my right to tell him what he can and can't do, but I am very hurt that he broke our agreement that I thought we had. It's not fair! I have always been more of a tomboy than a girly-girl, and I LOVE doing things that are normally considered "guy" activities like spending a night at the poker tables in Atlantic City, going to football games and tailgating, etc. So not only is it hard for me to swallow that he's going to be gone for an entire weekend, out living it up in our old lifestyle - but he's going to be doing something I'd LOVE to do, and I am not invited.

Last night I just told him I was going to bed early and cried myself to sleep. I didnt want him to see how I was feeling because I feel like I am being a b!tch or something by not wanting him to go. I don't WANT him to go, but I feel like I shouldn't even say anything to him and just need to find a way to get over this.....I just don't know how I am going to do that. It's not fair - he does not have to make the same sacrifices that I have to make. I have baby inside of me, I am single-handedly responsible for babies development and well-being, I am already a MOM with someone elses life to look after. He on the other hand - can detach himself anytime that he wants. Just walk away and have a weekend to himself and go back to our old lifestyle and pretend like nothing has changed. I want that luxury, and I can't have it. This pregnancy has been really hard on me because I've been so sick, and hate giving up what I love to do, and I'm really ashamed to say that I dont enjoy being pregnant! I want my baby to be here, to be born, so that I dont have to have them inside my body anymore. I dont even know if that makes sense. I love my baby and would never dream of doing anything stupid to harm baby (like drinking), but here I am struggling every day with my health and giving up all the things I used to do, and he does not have to do any of that.

I guess I thought he'd give up a crazy weekend with the boys for ME, in respect of me and in respect of our baby on the way, but the fact that he didnt makes me honestly believe that he is incapable of understanding how I feel and it really made me feel very isolated and alone. He tries to help and tries to be good, but this just sucks. All I am going to think about that entire weekend is how much I wish we could trade places. I dont have the option of detaching baby and just walking away for a day or two to go back to my old life. This IS my life now, I live it every day, every hour and I dont have any options here. I hate that no one can understand that.

If the situation was reversed, I would never do this to him. If he were incapacitated in bed for 9 months and wasnt allowed to go out and have fun or do the things we used to - I would stop doing them too just out of respect for him, to try to make it easier for him. I thought we had made an agreement - but I see now that I was mistaken and stupid for believing it. I want to be happy for him and let him have his fun, but this is so hurtful to me in ways I cannot even explain. I don't know what to do."

This woman is a Grade A Fucking Moron. Was she aware of what pregnancy entailed, or did she miss that day in 5th grade health class? I'm about her age, never been pregnant, and I could have told her all of the things she's just discovering now. It's one of the main reasons I'm childfree. Not only that, but she and her fiance lead a life that is totally incompatible with child rearing. Did she think that her fairy godmother would float in some night and touch them with her magic wand to make them change to mommy and daddy types? My husband and I are both lazy as hell, and do the bare minimum when it comes to housework, grocery shopping, and all those other boring things that keeps the house in working order. We're not going to all of a sudden wake up one morning and start loving those mundane tasks. We both realize that having a baby would be the stupidest thing we could ever do, and it would fill our lives with nothing but those mundane tasks that we hate so much. I don't think that it's a very difficult thing to understand, when you life doesn't fit the job you are considering taking on.

I also love how she freely admits that giving up her whole life makes her miserable, but then in the same breath also says that she wants her husband to give it up too. Obviously he would be just as miserable as she would be, and she knows it, but she still expects it of him. Just like miserable moos who try to get others to drink the Kool-aid, this is another example of how moo misery loves company.

Starting a little early with the martyrdom, isn't she? I love the pile of shit at the end. Yea, sure honey. You'd do the same for him. Whatever... And "they" had an agreement? Yea right. I'm so tired of these insecure little whores forbidding their fiances a damn bachelor party. Get the fuck over yourself!

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My husband and I are both lazy as hell, and do the bare minimum when it comes to housework, grocery shopping, and all those other boring things that keeps the house in working order. We're not going to all of a sudden wake up one morning and start loving those mundane tasks.

This is exactly how it is with my husband and I. I remember thinking, as I was picking up after hubby again, that it would only get WORSE with children. That he's not going to want to give up sleeping in, making a mess and shopping for only two. I know I don't...I hate that shit with a passion. I was kind of a neat freak who likes things in their place, but I've had to relax about that some 'cause hubby is a SLOB. Imagine having to slave away after hubby, pets and a kid? FUCK NO. I thought AHEAD of time and have saved myself some major grief. I don't feel one bit sorry for this lame ass martyr moo-to-be.

After having read the whole article now, I am convinced that this woman needs to get an abortion. She is clearly not ready to be a wife, much less a mother and it's clear she hasn't "bonded" with her embryo by the way she refers to it. It's also clear she doesn't have the emotional maturity to be honest about her feelings to her spouse to be, which is paramount in a good relationship. Their marriage hasn't even begun yet and he has already pissed her off in an unforgivable way in her mind, which I predict will only cause more problems and resentment on down the line. She clearly needs to abort while presumably there is still time or she will live to regret it. I think that they need to cancel the wedding too and keep playing house for a while. My guess is that this relationship will fizzle itself out inside of a year whether she stays knocked up or not. Going her own way and making a life for herself with or without a new man will be SO much easier without having to tote around a fucking pack n' play.

This is unreal. If one stupid meaningless party causes her to sit and write paragraph after paragraph after paragraph of whining, then I hold little hope for their marriage. Who gives a fuck if the guy has some fun? Why can't she be glad that he's going to go have some fun? So she can't come this time--OK--she can come some other time, but meanwhile, why not encourage your guy to go have a good time? Don't you want him to be happy and enjoy himself? He'll be happier when he gets home as a result--it's ultimately in your own best interest.

So selfish!

She needs to back off and thank god her meal ticket stayed around. How about being married first? Well, duh, rose.

Could someone please explain to me couples who can't do anything apart from the other? Like if they have plans, and one person feels crappy then the other has to stay home? Or how they can't watch anything like a movie without the other? Or how they both have to go to something, even though one of them absolutely hates it?

I love my husband, but I think I'd go insane if I had to do every thing with him, or was forcing him to do stuff that he doesn't enjoy simply to have him by my side.

"It truly is the one commonality that every designation of humans you can think of has, there's at least one asshole."
--Me

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> Could someone please explain to me couples who
> can't do anything apart from the other? Like if
> they have plans, and one person feels crappy then
> the other has to stay home? Or how they can't
> watch anything like a movie without the other? Or
> how they both have to go to something, even though
> one of them absolutely hates it?

I don't get that either. Maybe they're insecure and think that, if Hubby or Wifey goes anywhere alone, he/she might meet someone better? (or cheat on them?)

Yes, I think that is the case, Medusa. From my own observations with my ex, it was. I could not tell him I was going anywhere because he would follow me *everywhere*. He claimed it was because he loved me so much, but the reality was he didn't want anyone looking at me the wrong way. He followed me to doctor's appointments, to the convenience store, to the hairdresser's, and everywhere in between. Hell, when I'd visit him at his house, he'd insist on coming in to sit and watch me pee (we all know how often people steal girlfriends out of bathrooms!).

Being apart for long periods of time or over long distances is understandable, though. But the horse shit where dating couples canNOT do anything without the other person is freaky. I suppose it can be due to various factors...the clingy person having issues with past partners cheating, jealousy, high-maintenance personality, neediness. I don't understand it either because that kind of smothering attitude will only drive the victim/significant other away.