No More Mr. Nice Guy

I love this article on Craigslist that was written by a successful ladies man to all the "Nice Guys" out there:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/rnr/993021983.html

6'3" 220 pound solid muscle alpha male here. I've finally read one too many rants about why nice guys don't get hot chicks and I'm going to break it down for you.

Yes I can read. While my grammar and spelling aren't top notch I do have an IQ in the 140 range so eat it bitches.

Here is your problem.

You "nice" guys are full of shit. You ever notice how much time women put into being hot? They put a ton of time into it. In return how much do you put in? Do you learn how to dress? Do you learn about fashion? Do you hit the gym with a good personal trainer or a knowledgeable friend four times a week? No. But you want hot girls to fuck your ugly, fat, slovenly, no hygiene self. You think money and personality counts? Oh yeah? Then why aren't you fucking a rich fat ugly stinky chick?

Women like to feel safe. How many of you have a black belt in some super hard core martial art? Want to know why chicks like firemen and cops? Its because they make women feel safe. Want to know why porn stars and strippers date tatted out dudes that can crush your face? Its because they make women feel safe.

Also, you aren't actually "nice". What you are is a bunch of ass kissing pussies that hope that somehow some supermodel is going to mercy fuck you if you are sweet enough. The truth is though that you are lying about who you are. No one wants to kiss someone else's ass. Someone who kisses ass to get what he wants doesn't have much of a future. Women know this about you when you kiss their ass.

Women like us alpha bad boys because we go after what we want. Guess what.. we get rejected too. We are just adults and we deal with the rejection. For every 30 hot girls that tell me to fuck off, I bang a chick thats hot enough to be a movie star. It's worth it. Go find where you lost your balls and get them re-attached.

You call us assholes. At least we are honest about who we are, and we aren't afraid to go for what we want.

So true.

The types who date meatheads as described above are typically gold-digging, vapid whores who are not worth fucking because their snatches are petri dishes of STD fun...

I'm wagering the author of this little ditty is a 24 year old roid rager with barely an associates' degree, a police record of multiple misdemeanor charges, and a few kids he won't disclose until after 7 weeks of dating.

I've met these guys when I worked in Domestic Violence law. they're usually called "Respondent" or "Defendant."

When the author comes off the Human Growth Hormone and steps away from the UFC marathon on Spike TV, he might realize he's setting himself up to date waitresses and single Moos...

There is such a thing as a being a balanced person. Not a pushover wuss afraid of his own shadow, but not a raging prick like the guy who wrote that up there. My husband is an example of this. He is a very strong man physically, mentally, and emotionally, and could probably kick that guy's ass if he had to. The thing is, he is a nice person, and wouldn't hurt another person or animal, physically or in any other way, unless necessary. Isn't that what they used to call a gentleman, a man with chivalry? A normal guy? Yes, he makes me feel safe, and at the same time I don't have to worry about him beating the shit out of me every time his favorite team loses or dinner isn't ready at 6:00 PM on the dot. Jeez.

Like Marzipan said, only a gold-digging, vapid whore with little or no concept of who she is and no self-esteem would date someone like that. That's why relationships between people like that are so successful. :crz

Do you learn about fashion?...You think money and personality counts?...Want to know why porn stars and strippers date tatted out dudes that can crush your face?

I personally don't want a guy that's TOO interested in "fashion". Fashions for men have been the same since the late 1800s, anyways. It's pretty simple. DH has a nice suit he wears on nice-suit occasions (and he looks great) and that covers it. For the rest he dresses comfortably in jeans or khakis and a polo or sweater. I think he looks fine. End of story. We make fun of the fashion photos in the paper, anyways.

Yeah, personality is pretty much the primary consideration. People get bald, a bit saggy, a tad overweight...meh, whatever. But someone who can make you laugh and think, with whom you can talk about anything, and who is loyal and patient--you can build a lifetime on that.

I personally am not curious about the romantic preferences of porn stars and strippers, not because I look down on them, but because I don't care about anyone else's romantic preferences; we all make choices based on our own circumstances. This dude sounds like a swaggering, overcompensating omega male to me.

The guy is right.....if you want to date a porn star or a stripper. But if you are actually *normal" and don't place those types of women at the top of your preferential dating list, then it is a lot of bull. And personal hygiene is different from physical fitness. And one's height cannot be controlled or changed, something which has always baffled me about women and their dating preferences. And from perusing personal ads over the years, I have found that men don't place anywhere near as high a value on a woman's earnings/wealth/car as women do for a man's money/wealth/car.

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For every 30 hot girls that tell me to fuck off, I bang a chick thats hot enough to be a movie star. It's worth it.

If you throw enough shit against the wall, some of it will stick.

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

:eatu

ooh! ooh! Did he leave a number?

Ever wonder why I'm not into dating?

HA! My thoughts exactly!!!! What a douche bag.

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The types who date meatheads as described above are typically gold-digging, vapid whores who are not worth fucking because their snatches are petri dishes of STD fun...

I'm wagering the author of this little ditty is a 24 year old roid rager with barely an associates' degree, a police record of multiple misdemeanor charges, and a few kids he won't disclose until after 7 weeks of dating.

I've met these guys when I worked in Domestic Violence law. they're usually called "Respondent" or "Defendant."

When the author comes off the Human Growth Hormone and steps away from the UFC marathon on Spike TV, he might realize he's setting himself up to date waitresses and single Moos...

6'3" 220 pound solid muscle alpha male , muscle but no brains,

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Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

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6'3" 220 pound solid muscle alpha male

Ew, he actually calls HIMSELF "alpha male".

Gross.

That's something usually used to describe apes.

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"I have learned that pleasing everyone is impossible, but pissing everyone off is easy and fun as hell"

:eatu

yes so me thinks he protests too much,

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Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

There's some truth in that, but there's a lot of shit in it too.

Sure, it's true that if you play the role of alpha male to the hilt you're going to get - on average - a greater positive response from the opposite sex than negative (especially if you can do it without the I'm-gods-gift-to-women-me-tarzan-you-jane BS.)

Women are attracted to confident men. (Just as any vaguely sane/intelligent man is attracted to a confident woman.)

But the simplest formula is to cultivate in yourself the qualities you want in a partner. Want someone smokin' hot? Pay attention to your own physical appearance. Want someone successful? Become successful. Relationships between opposites happen, but you can't bank on that. More often than not they're based on things you have in common.

If you're an insecure male who tries to "win" women by following them around like a loyal lapping puppy... well there's already something that does that. A puppy. Women don't (generally) have sex with puppies so it's not going to get you laid. And if you don't have self-confidence the kind of woman who's going to be interested in dating you won't either.

Basically what I'm saying is that it doesn't matter if you're big and brawny, short and pudgy, or whatever. There's already someone out there that is into that who also has what you're into. But if you can't approach the prospective relationship happy with who you are already, they won't be happy with who you are either.

It's simple. Figure out who you are. Figure out if that's not who you want to be. Then determine, realistically, who you can be. Be that. Figure it out and be it. No apologies, no wishy-washy, no half measures. Just be someone you can be happy being.

If you're happy with who you are, someone else can be too. And if they're not who cares? You're already happy with who you are. (And that, ladies and gentleman, is a strong attractor - not needing someone else's approval to feel good about yourself makes people want your approval of them.)

Gee, this oaf is really a credit to his gender. 'Alpha Male'? You must be joking. Yeah, I use that title on one of my male rats and it's actually something meaningful to him. No, sorry Rose - I've got first dibs on this winner. I want to wake up every morning and bake up some breakfast cookies laced with steroids for him. I'm also confused as to how being 'nice' equates to 'kissing someone's ass'. 'Nice' is rather broad definition - there's a big difference between being a gentleman and being a doormat.
This type of bad-boy posturing is so overdone and tiresome, and idiots like this are a dime a dozen.

I look forward to seeing this guy's mugshot on a future episode of America's Most Wanted, where John Walsh calls him a 'scumbag' and holds up a rap sheet a mile long. He'll go down in infamy as a criminal whose catchphrase was, "She was asking for it" as they drag him away by his dingy white wife-beater tank top.

Yeah, sign me up. Did anyone get the guy's email address?

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"The secret of dealing successfully with a child is not to be its parent." -- Mel Lazarus
"Women who miscalculate are called mothers." -- Abigail Van Buren
"Better to be deprived of food for three days, than tea for one." -- Chinese proverb

Any guy who thinks he's going to be my "protector" is getting crossed right off my list.

Yeah, yeah. Heard it all before. And every person I ever heard it from was one of the following:

1. Using steroids
2. Obsessed bodybuilder
3. A few french fries short of a Happy Meal
4. Loaded with liquid courage
5. A current or ex-convict
6. All of the above

Who else wants to bet this musclebound windbag ends up dead or sentenced to a very long jail term before he hits 30?

Oh, come on. He's a nice old fashioned guy.

> Oh, come on. He's a nice old fashioned guy.

Yeah, if by "old fashioned" you mean "caveman". hahahahah

(yes, I know you were being sarcastic!)

Sounds like a reservist who was dinged from the 'real' Army on mental issues.

Good point though about most women putting a ton of time into themselves whilst most guys seem to think that brushing their brown teeth and changing their underwear daily is good enough in return.

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"The death of creativity is a pram in the hallway"
- Cyril Connolly

The thing about seeking out strippers/centerfold models, (or those types, male or female) etc....as lifetime partners based solely on their physical characteristics, is that they are not immune to aging related illnesses, weight gain, gravity, tooth loss, hair loss, erectile dysfunction, breast or prostate cancer, wrinkles, or other visible signs of aging. Even the wealthy ones who have ten cosmetic surgeons on speed dial STILL grow old and they eventually LOOK old. Many of the ones who "look" really good, likely look nothing like their media pics in real life and CERTAINLY not after all of the physical props are taken off, out, or washed off at bedtime. Look at some of our "sex symbols" of yesteryear who have MILLIONS at their disposal, and still look like shit when they age. Farrah Fawcett looks like 99 miles of rough road due to massive sun damage and various battles with cancer, Barry Bostwick looks like a bloated caricature of his former self in his 60's as does Stephen Baldwin, Liz Taylor has looked like shit for quite some time, and POOR old Burt Reynolds with his numerous facelifts that he looks Asian. If another one of these 30-40 y/o actresses prematurely ruins her looks with one of those RIDICULOUS collagen lip injections, there is NO TELLING how shitty they will look in as little as 5-10 years because of it. Brigitte Bardot and "Charo" make good poster children for avoiding too many "injections" and nip tucks. Poor Mary Tyler Moore is a mess too, the list could go on to infinity and beyond.


Eventually, if a person lives long enough, there has got to be something of substance which holds their spouses' endearment and stimulate them rather than simply a "look". I have never understood why people can't develop and enjoy both, but it does seem rather rare these days.

the most hideous woman i knew was "classically" beautiful, but oh god she was the worst human ever, her soul was gone, my great aunt wasnt very pretty but whn she smiled the world became better and brighter

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I just post the stories, for interest.. for everyone

Lord, what fools these mortals be!
- A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act III, Scene ii

Voltaire said: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

H.L.Mencken wrote:"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Albert Einstein

LOL!! Guy probably has a tiny penis.

the most hideous woman i knew was "classically" beautiful, but oh god she was the worst human ever, her soul was gone, my great aunt wasnt very pretty but whn she smiled the world became better and brighter

Nicely said; I've known people like that too, from both camps. My mom and Oma are in the second camp, though I think they're beautiful too just as they are and were.

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Good point though about most women putting a ton of time into themselves whilst most guys seem to think that brushing their brown teeth and changing their underwear daily is good enough in return.

I was thinking the same thing. Guys like him expect girls to be smokin' hot, but so many of them rip on the girl for taking the time to look exactly how he would like her to. So that's the only credit I will give him. The rest sounds like stereotypical drivel. I second what everybody said about him.

OMG that is SO true. Some men want their woman dressed to the nines, impeccable and perfect from head to toe. What they don't seem to understand is that this kind of "look" takes maintenance and time and it's not cheap even IF the woman has natural good looks. Hair, nails, various body waxing, tanning, toning, minor "repairs", gym memberships and attire, clothes, jewelry, undergarments, etc..........That part alone takes time, money, and energy, then you have the time and expense of all of the "getting ready" part such as cosmetics application, and then the time it actually takes to style the hair and put ON the jewelry and clothes, etc....I would venture to guess that the average "hot" woman seen at high end parties and functions are likely high maintenance and would retail for over 10k just in the hair, nails, clothes, shoes, and jewelry that they are wearing at the moment. The average man may like to see it, but he doesn't like to pay for it or wait on it to get ready. I don't know any "hot" women (in the context that the alpha male man seems to mean) who just wake up looking that way.