Cafe Learns the Hard Way That Breeders are Disgusting

A perfect example of how shitty parents and bratty kids ruin everything, even for themselves.

A north shore cafe has closed its popular playroom after parents and their children continued to "display deplorable manners", including leaving dirty nappies on dining tables, the owners say.

John and Claudette Osterberg, owners of Black Mocha in Turramurra, broke the news to customers via a Facebook post on Tuesday that outlined some of the behaviour they say forced the playroom's closure.

"Black Mocha is not a crèche, a play centre, your home, or an open park; it is a café. Just because the café provides toilets, a change table, playroom & a kids menu it, does not make it a kid's cafe," they wrote in the post.

The offending behaviour included:

-children ripping books, breaking toys and drawing on walls
-kids grinding food into the carpet, books, walls and toys
-kids "running and screeching unsupervised" around the cafe, jumping on the furniture "just for fun and often encouraged by their parents"
-children washing their hands in other patrons' water glasses and taking food from other patrons' plates
-parents changing nappies on lounges, table tops and the playroom floor, and then placing dirty nappies on top of dining tables.

"In the end it became a choice between the playroom or the business," Mr Osterberg told Fairfax Media.

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children washing their hands in other patrons' water glasses and taking food from other patrons' plates

Monkeys.

I can't say I feel sorry for these owners, what did they expect? A playroom in a restaurant is inviting the worst kind of gross unsanitary issues even if the famblees were not acting like feral animals. Dumbasses. My family was in the restaurant business so I'm not cutting any slack for owners who try to be competitive by doing something that damages other similar businesses (in this case breeder pleasing).

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children washing their hands in other patrons' water glasses and taking food from other patrons' plates

Monkeys.

I can't say I feel sorry for these owners, what did they expect? A playroom in a restaurant is inviting the worst kind of gross unsanitary issues even if the famblees were not acting like feral animals. Dumbasses. My family was in the restaurant business so I'm not cutting any slack for owners who try to be competitive by doing something that damages other similar businesses (in this case breeder pleasing).

Yup, I totally agree, blondie. You please breeders and this is what you get in return. Nothing but disrespect to you, your establishment, and your other patrons.

YES.
Why should one group of people (breeders) get favors and other groups not
when it is just a cafe for everyone?

This is one of my biggest fears right now ironically! In my town there used to be a wonderful little coffeehouse, unfortunately the owner. He and his wife worked there and were very nice people, he became ill and had to sell the business.

Another coffeehouse purchased the location, I googled it and found it has another place in another county. And at that location, I was horrified to find they had a huge play area!!! And the breeders rave about them on Yelp, the location in my town has 2 large rooms.

One could be used as a play area, I was praying that wasn't going to happen. I pass it everyday, and haven't mustered the courage to go in. The last time I was actually there I went to the bank across the building, it was still being remodeled. But the main part of the business was up and running, suffice to say I am still a bit chicken. I don't want to find another place I like only to be chased out by breeders.

You try to be generous and accommodating to breeders and they will shit all over you. That happens in business, in personal life, in public, it happens everywhere. Give the breeders something to use for free like a play area for sproggen to try and draw in more customers, but is that increase in business worth the damage and the noise? Not to mention the possibility of driving away unchilded patrons. If I went to a cafe (which should be a relatively quiet place to begin with) and had to listen to kids screaming blue murder, I wouldn't ever come back. If I go to a cafe, it's because I want to chill out with a coffee and read or draw, not listen to ill-mannered bastards making messes, screeching like electrocuted monkeys and possibly risk touching a filled shit rag that some ass-faced heifer left on the table or the floor. If I wanted to be subjected to that shit, I'd go to Chuck E. Cheese.

Rule numero uno in business: NEVER EVER cater to breeders. Do not kiss their asses in any way because their business is not worth the inevitable destruction they will wreak upon your place of business. Playrooms, high chairs, kids' menus, kids eat free days, free ice cream/cookie/whatever for kids' meals, and for fuck's sake, do not be scared to throw disruptive/destructive breeders and their spawn out. Yes, I'm sure all the Moos in the state will bitch about it and there will be a news article or broadcast about it, but consider that free advertising. Sure, you'll lose business from the breeder crowd, but when word gets out that you won't take shit from parents and their fuckin' kids, more people who want a brat-free experience (be it dining, coffee, shopping, movies, etc.) will come in and more than make up for the loss of breeder money.

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"Two screaming children can actually empty that cafe in the space of 15 minutes. And we can't do that to our other loyal customers. It was seriously hurting our business."

That's good that they're thinking about the good of everyone else rather than the good of the few. Not worth it to let breeders run the place into the ground and drive off the other 80 percent of customers. Unfortunately, most places of business cannot outright ban kids, but they can make it as unwelcoming to breeders as possible. This cafe is considered a "family cafe" and after doing away with the brat room, they might actually see an increase in business. There's no room for Moos to dump their screechlings, meaning it's less accommodating to those breeders. In the days of the playroom, I wouldn't have set foot in such a cafe, but now with the demise of the brat room, I might actually give it a chance.

Now whether their menu items are actually good is another story, but if they were phenomenal, I would consider braving the famblee atmosphere for a mocha.

Give them an inch, they'll take a few miles.
1. Take down the playroom.
2. Remove changing tables.
3. Ditch the brat menu
4. Ban brats altogether.

Only then can you even hope to see your cafe start to improve.

Im surprised no ones pulled the autism card

If they are firm and consistent about their expectations re: kid behavior, their regular business will creep back, then word will get out and things will be fine.

If they waffle, or allow the parents to continue similar behavior, just in the regular cafe instead of the playroom, they are sunk.

From the pics and their Facebook page it looks like a really smart and expensive cafe, the kind of place where people go to relax and enjoy good quality coffee and intricate little cakes, not to hear sprogs' ear-splitting screams.

I also note they've shared this pic- so they appear to have their priorities right!

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You please breeders and this is what you get in return.

Breeders are never grateful for the special treatment they get simply because they feel entitled to it. So many businesses bend over backwards for parunts that they've come to expect special treatment from all businesses and take it for granted, and that's why they're always so outraged whenever a business owner has the balls to stand up to them.

As a CF person I appreciate a nice quiet cafe. I know I'm not entitled to use a cafe as a quiet space to get some work done, so I'm grateful to any owners who provide free wifi and make the effort to create a calming and pleasant atmosphere. I like pubs where I can go for a quiet drink and sit down with a book without having my concentration pierced by the screams of brats or the cries of baybees. If I pay money to go to a really high-end restaurant I appreciate being able to eat in peace. I think most CF people appreciate these things. Breeders on the other hand demand that cafes, pubs and restaurants provide a play area with books and toys, that their little hellions be allowed to run about and scream and "tire themselves out" in the dining area, a menu with an extra range of bland junk food options for children, chefs who are willing to further blandify the food at the request of parents of fussy eaters- and they give thanks for none of this because they have come to expect all of these things as standard. In fact, on top of all these things which cost business owners money they'll often demand that their sprogs eat for free.

More cafes, restaurants and pubs should start catering to adults who appreciate what they do, rather than doing more to encourage breeders to make increasingly unreasonable demands on everyone. That's definitely what I'd do if I owned a cafe- breeders are impossible to please and they're ungrateful when people try so why bother? Just look at how many Likes the Black Mocha Cafe's post has got- I hope they've learned a lesson here and realised that the CF are a market too!

Give breeders an inch and they destroy a mile. Why do businesses cater to these parasites?

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Because they think they have to.
This is how it usually happens:
1. The business opens.
2. Breeders start acting entitled and demanding things. "Well if you ... then we wouldn't have to ..."
3. Business caves and does what breeders want, thinking it will help.
First a brat menu, the a changing table, then crayons, then a playroom...
4. The breeders see that they can shit all over the business and get whatever they want, so they do.
5. Business sees that things keep getting worse the more they cater to the breeders.
6. Business tries to put its foot down.
7. Cows low foul.

Breeders can never be happy with the craptons of businesses that happily cater to their asses, so they try and force that 15% of places that don't to join the herd. Consider how many chain restaurants have kid menus, kids eat free days, free toys, crayons at the tables, and so on. If breeders want their udders licked, go to those places! Don't shit on the handful of restaurants/cafes that aren't explicitly kid-friendly.

I'm waiting for breeders to start clamoring for playrooms in porn shops or a kids' menu in a titty bar. Children belong EVERYWHERE, remember?

Hell, they already take them to bars, and sit them right AT the bar.
It's disgusting. They think it's "cute".
It doesn't matter that they are taking up space and not a paying customer.
I've even seen breeders trying to get their brats into beer and wine tastings. Thefuck?
The beer and wine festivals are packed with brats. They even let them ruin perfectly good grapes in a "grape stomp" where they put their unwashed feet in a bucket of grapes and let the little tards stop their wee hearts out. Revolting.

They are raising the "Future". Surely they deserve all the benefits and back pats from the village.

My friend brought her 10-year old son to a wine tasting. I don't understand the thought process behind that. This particular winery offers juice or soda to kids to have during tastings, but what's the point of that? The point of a wine tasting is to taste WINES; to see what wines you like and how they pair with certain foods. What is a kid going to get out of that? Tastings ought to be 21+, no exceptions. Once upon a time, I bet they were. But now even activities (American) children can't legally participate in are made kid-friendly. It's ridiculous.

After that, I kind of keep outings with her at a minimum. If she's insistent on taking her son everywhere to hang out with people three times his age, then I'm doing adult outings and activities with my non-childed friends until she can start leaving him at home or with his friends.

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WTF, yeah, if the entire point of an event revolves around booze, there is absolutely no reason a kid should be going to it, nor should they be allowed in. Why are children even allowed to attend wine tastings? It's not like they have anything to do, meaning they're either going to be getting into trouble after their handlers Only Look Away For A Second^TM, or they'll be whining and stomping about "I wanna go hoooooooooooome!" and disturbing all the other people in attendance.

If it's any sort of an adult venue, then you can't come in unless you're of proper age, be it 18 or 21. There is no reason whatsoever for a breeder to drag their spawn to something like a winery, a porn shop, strip club, expensive Broadway show and so forth, and the people who run these venues need to learn to tell breeders to hit the road. If it's not necessarily a fully-adult venue, I think the owners/operators should at least practice sane judgment as far as who to cater to. If it's a quiet cafe that artsy types, weirdos and hipsters like to go to, do not have a kids' menu or crayons on the tables. If breeders want to come into places that are obviously not for them and their fuckin' kids, make them as uncomfortable as possible.

Of course, that wasn't the case with this cafe. They seem to be welcoming to families, but the families decided to not show respect or gratitude to the owners and proceeded to shit up the playroom that was generously provided to them. Perhaps if there continue to be such problems with breeders, fewer and fewer places will cater to them. Imagine a world in which the average restaurant treated all patrons with the same respect, and if you come in and act like an asshole, you get thrown out regardless of how many screeching brat pieholes you brought in with you. We can dream.

Were I to own any establishment, t would be an adults-only one that was strictly enforced. The breeders can scream and yell all they want about not feeling like their spawn are "included" and get arrested for disturbing the peace, and have their brats handed over to CPS. Not every venue revolves around your condom failure, and people who drag their shitlings everywhere need someone to enlighten them on that fact.

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Breeders can never be happy with the craptons of businesses that happily cater to their asses, so they try and force that 15% of places that don't to join the herd. Consider how many chain restaurants have kid menus, kids eat free days, free toys, crayons at the tables, and so on. If breeders want their udders licked, go to those places! Don't shit on the handful of restaurants/cafes that aren't explicitly kid-friendly.

I'm waiting for breeders to start clamoring for playrooms in porn shops or a kids' menu in a titty bar. Children belong EVERYWHERE, remember?

There are plenty of places for them yet that still isn't enough. They want it all! Just more proof they are greedy gluttons and not much else. There are places that just aren't for kids and breeders need to accept it.