Get rid of all welfare, let the fundies run private programs

One of the funniest things I run across on moo forums, in particular the "hip moo" kinds of forums and blogs are the single moos on welfare that bitch and complain about the new "faith based initiatives."

Apparently, when welfare, food stamps, WIC, section 8, free medical aren't enough for moos they head down to the local charities for handouts as well. Used to be all that charity kind of stuff was handled by the catholic and episcopalian churches, pretty much, which were and are very secular in their approach to helping the moos. Well nowadays, since "faith based initiatives" took effect, fundamentalist churches also get in on the action, getting the government money and forcing the moos to pray, read the bible or stay for sermons to recieve help.

I will preface this by saying, I am completely against all government sponsored religion and religion activities.

But what if government was no longer in the business of welfare and the tax exempt churches were told if they wanted to keep their tax exempt status they all had to run private welfare programs they fund themselves? These big fundy mega churches spend a lot of money on their buildings and other luxuries, all tax free, so why should government be in the business of moo and child welfare at all when a small slice of each of these churches budgets could go for operating the welfare program of their choice and exactly the way they want to operate it without any interference from the government at all?



Ya'all see where I am going with this right?



Moos being forced to pray, forced to take drug tests everytime they come to get their welfare money, forced to attend church, forced to accept Jebus.... LMAO, you get the picture. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

And not a dime of your tax money would be spent on any of it.

How many moos might think twice about shitting out another loaf if their welfare was structured privately by these churches?

Maybe I shoud write to Pat Robertson and James Dobson and see what they think?



(If there are any born again fundies lurking here on the forum, I wouldn't mind to hear your opinion on this.)

First of all, back in the old days, the churches would have 'the wood-pile test'. If whomever was begging alms, was able-bodied, they would be given some task. If theyd idnt' do it, they didnt' eat.
Second, the catch in what Obama said was that the church charities would not be allowed to hire only other believers. Hiring someone 'outside' would invite government intrusion to the nth degree and (if the church charities fall for it) will just turn into another gubermint give-away program. Hopefully the good faith based charities will tell gubermint to 'shove it where the moon don't shine'.

p.s.: the image of whores having to do 'church activities is hilarious

hi nowhiggers: I'm a christian, saved, Baptist...the works. But I don't attend church because of so many reasons which have already been mentioned here (I won't bore you). I think it's a fine idea. Hey, at least they'd be doing something for their hand-outs.

I do get annoyed with how religion is constantly belittled here, but I don't lose any sleep over it, trust me . Let the churches handle welfare whores - less out of my pocket to them and more to fund my retirement!

I am against faith-based initiatives - this is simply Christians trying to force everyone to accept their religion.

I wouldn't have anything against welfare, if it weren't for the fact that they discriminate against helping CFs.

Cassey:

Faith-based initiatives are not just Christian-based. Don't make that assumption. There are plenty of charities that are Islamic, Hebrew, Ba'hai, Buddhist, etc., that would do the same thing if the faith-based initiatives move forward.

DrDanCorelli Wrote:
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> Cassey:
>
> Faith-based initiatives are not just
> Christian-based. Don't make that assumption.
> There are plenty of charities that are Islamic,
> Hebrew, Ba'hai, Buddhist, etc., that would do the
> same thing if the faith-based initiatives move
> forward.

OK. But I'm pretty sure it was started by Christians. I'd be very surprised if it weren't.

I don't want to see any religion imposing themselves on others.

str8six Wrote:
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> hi nowhiggers: I'm a christian, saved,
> Baptist...the works. But I don't attend church
> because of so many reasons which have already been
> mentioned here (I won't bore you). I think it's a
> fine idea. Hey, at least they'd be doing
> something for their hand-outs.
>
> I do get annoyed with how religion is constantly
> belittled here, but I don't lose any sleep over
> it, trust me . Let the churches handle welfare
> whores - less out of my pocket to them and more to
> fund my retirement!

Hey, I don't want to belittle you at all... in fact a saved born again conservative is exactly who I wanted to hear from here.

And when I do belittle, and I do it sometimes, I'm guessing it's prolly for most of the same reasons you don't attend church.

But damn, you know, I grew up in the baptist church, so I know what it's all about. And you know like I do that the approach to charity is much different than the liberal churches.

Which is why I think all these fuckin welfare moos could use a good dose of JAYYYYSUSS!!!!!!!!!!! when they come to pick up their welfare checks.

I'll tell you something, and you probably already know this, brats do not act up in a fundie church. Oh hell no. At least when I was a kid that's how it was. I may disagree with fundies on a lot of things, but the way they keep the brats in line is a glorious thing. And I do not care what anyone says, whether it be by hellfire and damnation or a willow switch, kids in the fundie churches don't necessarily grow up to be fundies (I didn't, I'm an atheist) but they sure as hell did not behave like wild animals or grow up with bad manners.

The hip moos complaining about "faith based initiatives" would have nothing to complain about if taxpayer money (government) was removed entirely from the equation. And it solves all of the atheist bellyaching about tax exempt churches as well, as long as they provide a slice of the budget to run a welfare program, they can remain tax exempt.

Faith based initiatives are total bullshit and a violation of the constitution. It's religion getting money from the government to perform a job that we pay the government to do, not the churches and sure as hell we do not pay for sermons and forced prayer on breeders looking for handouts.

But if no taxpayer money was involved and churches had to provide a slice of their budgets for "community welfare programs" to retain their tax exempt status, they could run the whole thing exactly as they want to. lol. I say it's a good idea to run the moos through the woodpile test, make them pray, force them to come to church and to discipline their brats.



two cents ¢¢ Wrote:
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> First of all, back in the old days, the churches
> would have 'the wood-pile test'. If whomever was
> begging alms, was able-bodied, they would be given
> some task. If theyd idnt' do it, they didnt' eat.
> Second, the catch in what Obama said was that the
> church charities would not be allowed to hire only
> other believers. Hiring someone 'outside' would
> invite government intrusion to the nth degree and
> (if the church charities fall for it) will just
> turn into another gubermint give-away program.
> Hopefully the good faith based charities will tell
> gubermint to 'shove it where the moon don't
> shine'.
>
> p.s.: the image of whores having to do 'church
> activities is hilarious

DrDanCorelli Wrote:
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> Cassey:
>
> Faith-based initiatives are not just
> Christian-based. Don't make that assumption.
> There are plenty of charities that are Islamic,
> Hebrew, Ba'hai, Buddhist, etc., that would do the
> same thing if the faith-based initiatives move
> forward.


Yes doc, but i was just commenting on some hip moooooooooooooing i ran across where the moo was mooooooooooooing about going down to the local church for some kind of handout (extra utility money on top of her section 8?) and how they made her listen to a sermon and pray. LOL.

And IMO Faith Based Initiatives suck balls HARD. This is my tax dollar going for promotion of religion, period. But I have no problem with churches doing this stuff with their own money, forcing prayer. Hell maybe the muslim churches can fit the welfarehoes for chastity belts and burkas (stoning of the disobedient moos at the muslim church sounds like a pretty good idea too)

I have no problem with any religion doing what it wants with money it raises from its members or those who willingly donate. Whether they make the loser moos sit through a sermon, wear some kind of silly hat or read verses from some "holy book", that is there business. If it takes government money, it has to live up to government standards period.

I just wanted to point out that every one automatically assumes these faith-based initiatives are run solely by Christians, when in fact many of them are run by a diverse group of religious faiths. Washington State, and Seattle in particular, has many of these programs despite pretty severe public opposition. Problem is, in this politically correct society, no one is willing to take them on directly.

None of them should be receiving government money of any kind, and I am the strongest proponent of the separation of church and state.

I believe in the separation of church and state and hate forced preaching, but the thought of the welfare sluts being forced to hear sermon on the evils of fornication warms the cockles of my cold black heart.

MoJo Wrote:
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> I believe in the separation of church and state
> and hate forced preaching, but the thought of the
> welfare sluts being forced to hear sermon on the
> evils of fornication warms the cockles of my cold
> black heart.




Yeah mine too. I have visions of the kind of hip moo that whines about not being able to buy tofu with WIC being forced to sit one or more times a week listening to a hellfire brimstone baptist preacher say HARLOTS!!! FORNICATORS!!! over and over again before she can collect her food and welfare allowance, which doesn't include tofu either.

See, if the religious right were really smart, they wouldn't be so excited about the faith based gubbermint dollas. Although there is a little forced praying and such that you hear about from time to time, they are essentially prevented from going whole-hog fundy with government money. I'd think they'd have a hey day fundying out to the max with no limitations. LMAO. Not only that, but you know these worthless sows would really think fuckin twice about going and applying for welfare, or having any more kids, LMAO. Oh sure, we all know they'd be busting down the doors of the liberal churches, the buddhists, etc, but there will be loooooooong waiting periods for churches that would provide the welfare services in a secular manner in that scenerio. Quite a few of them would have no damn choice but to go to Pastor Hellfiredamnations church or Mullah Osama's Fundamentalist Muslim church, or temple, whatever they call it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I am all for getting rid of ALL the programs that Uncle Sam hands out to the parasites. Work for a living you lazy, greedy fuckers!

I have NO problem paying social security to the elderly, the disabled, Veterans, but I DO have a problem with my tax dollars going to some breeding parasite who makes it a way of life.

You take this shit away and you'd see how quick things would turn around.

WIC Moos don't eat tofu. Are you kidding?

They will buy lobster and shrimp with their food stamps though. And lots of processed, sugary junk food for the kids.

But I don't think you'd find many welfare moos who are into eating tofu.

KidFreeLuvnLife Wrote:
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> I am all for getting rid of ALL the programs that
> Uncle Sam hands out to the parasites. Work for a
> living you lazy, greedy fuckers!
>
> I have NO problem paying social security to the
> elderly, the disabled, Veterans, but I DO have a
> problem with my tax dollars going to some breeding
> parasite who makes it a way of life.
>
> You take this shit away and you'd see how quick
> things would turn around.

Take this shit away and we'll be fighting for our lives: these breeders won't stay home and starve, they are entitled to what anyone else has.

casseyrod Wrote:
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> WIC Moos don't eat tofu. Are you kidding?
>
> They will buy lobster and shrimp with their food
> stamps though. And lots of processed, sugary junk
> food for the kids.
>
> But I don't think you'd find many welfare moos who
> are into eating tofu.


Oh cassey dear, you must not know about the vaunted "hip mama" crowd, do a search for "hip mama" online, or http://hipmama.com is the big site.

Allow me to give you the proper introduction to the "hip mama lifestyle." LMAO,,, :

1. Single moos on welfare, but with a twist. Instead of the "inner city" ghetto welfare moo that buys lobster, steak and junk food for the brats, these moos demand "organic and specialty foods" WIC to cover soy milk and tofu, etc. BTW, I work and I can't afford $4 for a quart of soy milk anymore, I make my own. But that's too haaaaaarrrddd for the "hip moos."

2. Generally these are college educated and politically involved moos, one of their pet projects are groups like http://www.welfarewarriors.org/

3. Oh and of course, they want "alternative medicine" to be included in their medicaid payments. While the inner city moo will take what medical care is given to her, the "hip moo" will bitch and complain that accupuncture and yoga are not covered under medicaid.

There is no welfare sow that I have more disgust over than the hip moo.
The inner city moos almost have an excuse due to low levels of education, (almost, but not totally) these hip moos are in your face and have the education to know better. They have no excuse.

And now childfree friends... it's time for the Welfare Warriors Sing Along Song..... http://www.welfarewarriors.org/fight-back_songs.htm



(Sung to the tune of "Tavern in the Town")
Welfare Warriors Song

When Welfare Warriors come to town, come to town
There's help for the mothers who are down, who are down
They all take aim at the bureaucrats in power,
Who duck, hide, run away and cower!

(Chorus)
Goodbye, guys we don't need you,
And it's too much work to feed you,
We'll move into all your offices and make rules fair!
Moms with babies can stay home, can stay home,
No more daily job-search on the phone, on the phone
So get out quick before we kick your asses
We're on our way to college classes!

All the deadbeats will send checks, will send checks,
Our private-eyes will find each ex, find each ex,
And the moms need dough, so do not let them wait,
Don't send support checks to the state! --Chorus

Tuition for the mothers will be free, will be fee
With day care provided for no fee, for no fee,
Moms get honor, dignity, respect--
Which family values should reflect!-- Chorus

We the people have the wealth, have the wealth
To Guarantee every child's health, every child's health
Change old laws and pass new bills
Our children need security, not pills-- Chorus


:kill

So hip moos have college degrees and are politically involved...but they are on welfare? Interesting.

Come to think of it, I knew a young woman (non-moo) who had her master's degree, had spent a summer at Oxford University, was well-educated and politically involved with the Democratic party...and she was on food stamps.

I might also add, she was an over-educated snob and looked down on me because I went to a state school instead of the ivy league type college that she went to. But at least I had a real job and wasn't on food stamps!

When the Welfare Warriors come to town, we should have an all-out war!

Here's another disgusting song:
(To the tune of "The Little Drummer Boy")
Our Kids Need Guarantees

Mothers work~we are not bum-bum-bum-bums
And yet they treat us like we're scum-bum-bum-bums
We ask for peace and we get none-none-none-none
Our kids need guarantees pa-rum-pum-pum-pum,
rum-pum-pum-pum, rum-pum-pum-pum
Moms should be revered pa-rum-pum-pum-pum
For the jobs we have done

Tommy Thompson is a crumb-bum-bum-bum
He steals from us with help from media guns
They all have funds, our kids need some-some-some-some
The governmental plans are dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb,
dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb, dumb-dumb-dumb-dumb
All our children deserve fun-fun-fun-fun
Not homes in a slum

We buy our formula, not rum-rum-rum-rum
Yet TV Six shouts out we're scum-bum-bum-bums
The legislators join ha-rump-pa-pum-pum
Our families won't run, pa-rum-pa-pum-pum,
rum-pum-pum-pum, rum-pum-pum-pum
So we're here today, Pa-rum-pum-pum-pum
Together we've come!!

Here are all the songs--get a barf bag before reading! http://www.welfarewarriors.org/fight-back_songs.htm

Keep working more hours, CF people! Millions of breeders depend on us.

catmeow Wrote:
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> When the Welfare Warriors come to town, we should
> have an all-out war!
>
> Here's another disgusting song:
> (To the tune of "The Little Drummer Boy")
> Our Kids Need Guarantees


And why not welfare for everyone who needs it? They aren't "welfare warriors" they're lazy breeders. Real liberals want everyone to share the same benefits, the old timey 60s and 70s liberals, and unfortunately, many of those that are still liberal from that period (like my partners parents) are totally bought in now lock stock and barrel into "selective socialism." There are very few liberals left, with the exception of the childfree liberals I know of, that still believe in the founding principles of social justice, which includes EVERYONE.

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Yeah, I've noticed that any attempt to get justice for the childfree--especially an end to the rip-off of welfare as we know it--ends up with the CF person being branded "right-wing". Right wing?! I make Trotsky look like a Republican on some issues lol.

I'm just tired of "socialism for breeders", with the rest of us being expected to bankroll it. Hell, I can't even afford hamburger at the store! Like I'm gonna be willing or able to subsidise breeders! They want the kids, THEY pay for them and they pay FULL FREIGHT! If they had to do that, I guarantee the rest of us wouldn't have to worry about these asshats using birth control.

nowhiggers, I would prefer to get rid of welfare. If these bums knew that they would have to pay for the brats they chose to breed, there would be way fewer people shitting out the kids.

Keep working more hours, CF people! Millions of breeders depend on us.

Making breeders PAY for their spawn (no welfare here) would be the most effective birth control in recent history!

Check out a portion of their mission statement:

"...we fight for the creation of a federal
program to guarantee that all children
have support to the age of 18.

We educate and agitate until all communities recognize that
"Motherwork IS Work" and must be paid and prioritized
by the community and in the workplace."

To the age of 18??, what, are you fucking insane you moron?! These little bastards are already pimping themselves out, robbing, doing/selling drugs and wreaking havoc on the general populous by the age of seven; and now you want me to support it for EIGHTEEN MOTHER FUCKING YEARS???!!! You've completely lost your marbles and are obviously off your lithium.

And then this little gem: ..."Motherwork IS Work" and must be paid and prioritized by the community"....WHAT??? WHAT???? Fuck you and the men you rode in on! Keep your cockroach bitten legs the fuck SHUT, and stop your bellyaching - you get no sympathy from me you dried up sponge. You know the sad part? Is there really are people who are good people down on their luck and sure could use a helping hand. But it's all you rat-breeding, greedy entitled sluts that give a bad name to good folks who need a little help.


....must be paid....un-fucking-goddammed-believable....:scr

MerlynHerne Wrote:
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> Yeah, I've noticed that any attempt to get justice
> for the childfree--especially an end to the
> rip-off of welfare as we know it--ends up with the
> CF person being branded "right-wing". Right wing?!
> I make Trotsky look like a Republican on some
> issues lol.

The selective socialism for moos and brats only is eerily similar to the programs for "fit germans" and they even had a program for the german moos, and many of them single at that time, where the government supported them indefinintely. There was even a program called the Lebensborn where single german moos were purposely impregnanted (fertility treatments for welfare moos, anyone?).

Selective socialism = national socialism. The skin colors are different, but the policies are about the same.