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starlady
Wonder what Canada would do if I trotted my butt into their country and tried to live there as an illegal? No visa, no papers, no job, trying to eeek off their government? Nope.. wouldn't happen.
Hey... you in the USA. Try to go to any Canadian radio station website and 'listen live'....just try it. Our lovely government has blocked them all ( and I have one that I am head of their morning crew fan club) why? So, in return... Canada has blocked our stations. I know this is not like immigration... but it's funny how they restrict radio stations and let in illegals and ebola patients. Just sayin......
Re: Breeder-based immigration policy is a bad idea November 21, 2014 | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 12,434 |
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nomooingzone
yurble, this is a perfect example of what you're talking about: Obama immigration move expected to leave out millions of childless adults
Re: Breeder-based immigration policy is a bad idea November 21, 2014 | Registered: 16 years ago Posts: 3,454 |
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starlady
Wonder what Canada would do if I trotted my butt into their country and tried to live there as an illegal? No visa, no papers, no job, trying to eeek off their government? Nope.. wouldn't happen.
Hey... you in the USA. Try to go to any Canadian radio station website and 'listen live'....just try it. Our lovely government has blocked them all ( and I have one that I am head of their morning crew fan club) why? So, in return... Canada has blocked our stations. I know this is not like immigration... but it's funny how they restrict radio stations and let in illegals and ebola patients. Just sayin......
I checked tune-in radio, all stations from Canada seem to be working:
Check it out here:
http://tun.in/seyLJ
Re: Breeder-based immigration policy is a bad idea November 21, 2014 | Registered: 15 years ago Posts: 1,270 |
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starlady
Wonder what Canada would do if I trotted my butt into their country and tried to live there as an illegal? No visa, no papers, no job, trying to eeek off their government? Nope.. wouldn't happen.
Hey... you in the USA. Try to go to any Canadian radio station website and 'listen live'....just try it. Our lovely government has blocked them all ( and I have one that I am head of their morning crew fan club) why? So, in return... Canada has blocked our stations. I know this is not like immigration... but it's funny how they restrict radio stations and let in illegals and ebola patients. Just sayin......
I checked tune-in radio, all stations from Canada seem to be working:
Check it out here:
http://tun.in/seyLJ
Yes, Tunein is working. That's how I get the station now. I've been using that for a week and my hubby has listened through his phone for a while now. Station I listen to just stopped streaming to the US last week. However, it has a long lag time. Just WHY should the government block the live streem from the stations themselves? then I think that maybe Tunein wants to have a monopoly on the business? Who knows. I just wonder how long it will be before canada will go away from that site too. Kinda stupid IMO.
Re: Breeder-based immigration policy is a bad idea November 21, 2014 | Registered: 11 years ago Posts: 804 |
Pretty much. It's going to screw over many legitimate people, including those that came here legally. Plus by doing this he's actually harming the illegals, because what they/he assume is racism, is actually a fat ball of festering resentment. By missing that point and assuming that it's due to the color of their skin instead, and not because they'd came illegally and are getting preferential treatment, he's helping to damn these folks for generations to come.Quote
M4P
Obama cares more about illegals than he does about US citizens. The flood gates will now be open.
Re: Breeder-based immigration policy is a bad idea November 21, 2014 | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 259 |
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nomooingzone
yurble, this is a perfect example of what you're talking about: Obama immigration move expected to leave out millions of childless adults
I think it goes beyond the plan for amnesty, which merely perpetuates the existing biases in the immigration system at a grander scale. It's just one more form of bias against those who don't fit the limited definition of family. I find it hard to be especially outraged about this particular injustice (which, I notice, can only be made palatable by reference to a parental role) when to me it's just a part of the systematic institutionalized discrimination which goes unnoticed most of the time.
As long as some people are considered more valuable than others by the virtue of their reproductive status or where they were born, economic immigration and pro-natalist immigration policies will continue to be a problem.
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blondie
The outrage is more like a cringe for me. I had to watch a democratic two term president of my country, who promised hope and change, smugly slap citizens in the face with this unjust unilateral decision and use breeder pleasing words and phrases we all know - the cruelty of ripping children from their parents arms-. Really? We know this is totally political, the flowery sappy language is embarrassing.
So I just feel worse about this than what goes on in every day life. It's a middle finger to legal immigrants and non-breeders, wrapped up in a gooey breeder pleasing package.
Re: Breeder-based immigration policy is a bad idea November 22, 2014 | Registered: 10 years ago Posts: 1,227 |
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yummynotmummy
I am supportive of open borders within the EU, mainly because if the rightwing nutters get in here, I want to be able to up sticks and leave sharpish without too much hassle, but also, as a principle - if you have free trading for corporations, you should have free movement of people. You can't have one and outlaw the other - corporations should not get privilege over people (although I realise that they do, in many contexts). But, people are coming over here and claiming welfare when they land, virtually. That needs to be stopped - there should be a waiting period before being able to claim any sort of benefits, except under exceptional circumstances (people who are rescued from trafficking, human slavery, abusive "employers" etc).
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Zzelda
So why should we be angry over Mexicans? What's the difference? They're hardworking people, good people, I have lots of Mexican friends and live in a mixed area of all types of people.
My relatives came from EU and the ME. They were 'legal' immigrants. Educated people who already had connections in the US and people to 'sponsor' them and help with the bureaucracy of it all. Which is mind bending.
And once they got here - they had kids too. And some did drag existent kids with them. What really makes us any different from a Mexican or a Pole?
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Zzelda
Remember too - once someone is "legalized" - they can be taxed. That benefits ALL. Living here illegally and untaxed is - better?
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Zzelda
And on the Mexicans - well - this really was their land to begin with. At least the SW. We stole large swaths from them. They used to live here - why can't they now?
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Zzelda
Everyone deserves a chance. My relatives were able to come to the US. Who am I to say - no one else? That's just selfish. And if there are no incoming - you know who - they'll be looking at to 'breed the future' ~